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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI Fascism just got upgrades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBYBSX-lNsI https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-future/chinas-nightmarish-citizen-scores-are-warning-americans quote:China is launching a comprehensive “credit score” system, and the more I learn about it, the more nightmarish it seems. China appears to be leveraging all the tools of the information age—electronic purchasing data, social networks, algorithmic sorting—to construct the ultimate tool of social control. It is, as one commentator put it, “authoritarianism, gamified.” lollontee fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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Morbus posted:Idiot #1: "Hey, guys, the social dynamic between the Chinese citizenry and our government is not as harmonious as we would like...how can we improve things??" The punchline is that it'll work.
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Dec 17, 2015 13:24
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The David Cameron episode had rave reviews
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Tracking your credit worthiness for business reasons is in an entirely different ballpark from trying to forcefully enforce a very definate kind of political public behaviour and singling out of those who do not conform and then punishing them. This a something new and terrifying in entirely unique kinds of ways. I would go so far as to say that we're looking at the birth of a wholly novel type of totalitarian state.
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Dec 17, 2015 18:33
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Fojar38 posted:I still don't understand how people are connecting state-surveillance with capitalism. Because the kind of Authoritarian Capitalism (or capitalism with asian values) that practices these kinds of policies are the most succesful economies of today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXVEnxtZe_w
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I mean I get it, it's a confusing time and it's a weird thing to think that authoritarian states might come up societal innovations that actually work and create stable societies, especially if you still think that Fukuyama was right. Spoiler alert: even Fukuyama doesnt believe in it anymore. I'm not trying to sound alarmist and I doubt that the worst kinds of abuses we see in China or Singapore will ever happen on the same scale as do there, but I really do think that what is being created there is a true novelty. An authoritarian state with nominal personal freedoms and total political oppression, which contrary to all historical precedents has a functional economy and is stable. It's going to have repercussions. You're going to have a bad time.
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Eat the rich. Claim their powers.
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Whether or not Sesame Credit is similar to the US credit score, doesn't really matter. Fact is, Sesame Credit is going to have huge repercussions for the Chinese society after it becomes mandatory.
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Dec 24, 2015 23:12
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computer parts posted:Probably not, given how the Great Firewall has turned out. I don't see how that has anything to do with the subject, but thanks for your completely worthless opinion regardless.
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Dec 24, 2015 23:57
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Bob le Moche posted:Guys I heard that in China they take children away from their parents during weekdays from a very young age, and make them go through mandatory years of indoctrination by specialized state functionaries. They force them to memorize what the government wants and are constantly being made to prove their commitment through "tests" administered to them, all throughout they get rated and evaluated with numbers that only serve to determine how fit individuals are as potential workers for different industries. If you obey and go along you get rewarded but if you resist you get punished and your scores get lowered. Everyone in China grows up with such "grade" attached to them that determine who you are allowed to become WOW!!! O: I can go get you a screen if you want to give us the powerpoint presentation. You seem to have the projector already.
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computer parts posted:Another mandatory social control tool is not relevant? Well if you can't even say how, then yeah.
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Anything bad happening in china is obviously just racis stereotyping accordinf to the stalinist retards that populate dnd. and Amerikkka is jsut as bad if not worse and furthermore
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Dec 25, 2015 12:49
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Bob le Moche posted:it's cool how you're still talking as if that youtube video is talking about something real as opposed to what is basically a work of science fiction originating from fraudulent journalism Please go poo poo up some other thread with your racist projections and crap satire.
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Dec 25, 2015 17:33
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I for one am nevertheless grateful there is still 'room for concern'. I heavens for that small concession.
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Dec 25, 2015 23:17
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Ddraig posted:I guess I find it hard to see it as anything but the worst kind of hand-wringing liberal hypocrisy when people fret and worry about how bad those inscrutable Chinese are when there are equal, if not bigger, violations of human rights closer to home that are completely glossed over, presumably because they happen to "scary people", as if human rights are not something that should be given universally. Find some other thread if you want to complain about that poo poo. Posting really long-winded idgaf rants is extremely retarded. Thank you.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:In case other posters intend to ignore your link, I would like to note that even the piece you quote has this to say: The crux of that blog was basically "well none of this has happened yet so why should we think about it" so yeah whatever. It's a bit concerning there isn't any deeper analysis of how Sesame Credit is going to affect the Chinese society. Or at least I can't find any atm.
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Dec 26, 2015 15:18
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Ddraig posted:You see this post? It's the rhetorical equivalent of the Chinese anti-suicide net. Please go project your extremely retarded and racist opinions onto some other thread. Thank you.
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Dec 26, 2015 19:19
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lllllllllllllllllll posted:Another authoritarian regimes makes the usual mistake of being to obvious. You can have the same effect by letting these structures grow organically, being offered for free and viewed as a blessing to many (facebook et al). Well there isn't a whole lot on Sesame Credit to be found on the net tbh. They're being about as subtle as it's possible to be about this sort of stuff. I wonder how the Chinese social media is going to react to this once people start cluing into what's actually going on. I mean even living in an authoritarian system under the kind of total shitheels that make up the CPC, there's gotta be a point where people start going 'nope nope nope nope' in large enough numbers for it to start worrying the leadership.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:China Uncensored has already reported on this in May by the way: added to the op
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The OP will NOT be edited. Thank you.
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Ddraig posted:Have you ever considered joining the CPC? You might have a bright future ahead of you. Have you ever considered making a post which is either funny, informative, or interesting on any level.
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UltraRed posted:So is there a sign up/ open beta yet? It's in pre-alpha tech demo stage right now. Currently looking into possibility for partnering wtih maverick game developer Chris Roberts
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