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mr. mephistopheles posted:feel free to elaborate how 8.5 succeeds at the same themes and motifs that you think birdman fails at or your post is just "new popular thing actually sucks and old somewhat obscure to the average person thing is good" 8 1/2 is a very famous movie and is probably much more well known to the average person than birdman, which is not even particularly popular.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:feel free to elaborate how 8.5 succeeds at the same themes and motifs that you think birdman fails at or your post is just "new popular thing actually sucks and old somewhat obscure to the average person thing is good" "Torture yourself along my retarded line of thinking or else I will smug out on you like crazy."
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If you don't like Fury Road you might not actually like movies
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Necc0 posted:no that was my point they both hit all the same 'themes and motifs' to being almost the same movie but 8 1/2 actually pulled off all the things people itt are complaining about ie: 2d characters, boring dialogue, faux-indie aesthetic, etc this kinda of point, the one where people go"Why don't you watch this movie instead", is mad gay. because you can watch and enjoy more than one movie in your life, its a thing that can happen, and its totally possible to enjoy a fuckin french movie from 1963 and also a movie in 2014, jesus christ why would you possibly have to choose, who would make you choose?
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SlipkPIe posted:If you don't like Fury Road you might not actually like movies yes if someone disagrees with your opinion about a silly light scifi car chase action movie, clearly they do not like any other movies. i mean i enjoyed fury road personally, but that shits just stupid
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Dec 21, 2015 03:13
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the good thing i remember about birdman is that he did the same monologue like three different times, but because of the circumstances and delivery they meant something different and had different emotional content each time. that was kind of neat
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Fonzarelli posted:this kinda of point, the one where people go"Why don't you watch this movie instead", is mad gay. because you can watch and enjoy more than one movie in your life, its a thing that can happen, if it were a good movie then yeah this would be totally fine but it isn't. so if you want to see birdman, but good, watch 8 1/2
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Dec 21, 2015 03:31
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you loving people
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I thought Birdman was watchable but mostly insubstantial. I went in with absolutely no prior bias however, I wasn't informed by the masses until afterwards that is objectively genius and inscrutable and that I should kill myself if my instinctual response post-viewing isn't to drop to my knees and tenderly fellate Alejandro González Iñárritu and Keaton. Can't wait for Revenant, No Country for Old Men was unsatisfying, Nightcrawler was okay, and Star Wars was fine. Birdman was a billion times better than Boyhood though Sperghetti fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 03:42
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Didnt read thst post but i havent watched birdman and im glad of it
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lol if you don't have strategically placed experimental jazz drummers serenade you as you go about your day
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Dec 21, 2015 03:51
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i watched birdman and enjoyed it because ed norton does a really good job in the movie. diffr'nt stroke for diffr'nt folks i gues!
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Dec 21, 2015 04:01
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Only good birdman is this guy:
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Dec 21, 2015 04:09
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Only good birdman is this guy: gotta disagree with you there chief 
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Dec 21, 2015 04:16
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Sperghetti posted:No Country for Old Men was unsatisfying Unsatisfying because it's lack of a meaningful conclusion? Story wise it lacks one but I thought the point was that violence was both pointless and unavoidable in humans.
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Dec 21, 2015 05:21
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Nightcrawler and Whiplash were better than Birdman. The Revenant looks much better though.
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ShaqDiesel posted:Unsatisfying because it's lack of a meaningful conclusion? Story wise it lacks one but I thought the point was that violence was both pointless and unavoidable in humans. Yeah that's certainly one aspect of the disappointment. Cormac McCarthy stories generally seem pretty nihilistic and chaotic and I'm not sure they lend themselves to film adaptations. Brolin's death was meaningless and we don't even see it on screen so I definitely agree with your point. To me though the story seems to blatantly troll the audience and subvert expectations about our concepts of plot structure. They eliminate half the main players off screen with little fanfare, take us right to the precipice of the traditional climactic cowboy showdown and Tommy Lee Jones literally turns around and walks away from Javier Bardem the crazy rear end killer. I think that was the intention of the movie honestly, to defy traditional storytelling and leave us uneasy and unsatisfied that chaotic evil can and does triumph and lawful good can and will puss out and act selfishly. Kudos to the Coens for tackling this story though, it definitely wasn't a safe movie to go for
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Dec 22, 2015 04:27
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there is only one birdman for me and his name is Harvey.
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Dec 22, 2015 04:28
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Still willing to fight ANY of you fuckers and poo poo-lickers for the honor of this film
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Dec 22, 2015 05:12
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I kind of enjoyed watching it. But when it was done, I realized I'll never have any desire to watch it again. Which is the mark of a bad movie.
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Best Giraffe posted:Still willing to fight ANY of you fuckers and poo poo-lickers for the honor of this film what if i just watched half of it and liked what i watched but have no pressing desire to finish it can we leg wrestle or play laser tag or something
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Dec 22, 2015 07:13
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Shoukd be amovie about bard mans
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Dec 22, 2015 07:16
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whoa agreed. need a movie about a bard. now
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Dec 22, 2015 07:17
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i just googled it and there are no movies about bards. gently caress
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Ill make the lute site
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