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I am absolutely loving this. Not many games warrant this kind of deep analysis, and this is definitely one that does. A question, though: You have neither parried, nor mentioned parrying, once. Are you saving that? Because the black knight in Undead Burg was what caused me to learn how to parry, which became infinitely useful. This has made me want to play again, but only after I buy a controller for my PC. Playing with the keyboard was okay, but I never, ever got the hang of backstabbing, the movement was just too rough to manage that.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:46 |
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Not only do I not parry, I'm going to get the Eagle Shield at first chance so it is literally impossible for me to parry
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 17:58 |
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Vicas posted:Not only do I not parry, I'm going to get the Eagle Shield at first chance so it is literally impossible for me to parry Shiva's is my shield of choice, has that sweet greatshield bounce as well as letting me parry the few times it's worth it over just killing them in the wind-up.
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# ? Jan 21, 2016 18:36 |
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Good morning! have an episode from the latest recording session! 11 - Sword Bastard This episode runs a little long because I wanted to get a bit of action in the Parish in. In this episode we find my true calling, big swords The greatswords probably have my favorite overall moveset in the game, faster than the ultragreatswords but still really good reach and really powerful. It's mostly personal preference
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# ? Jan 23, 2016 16:28 |
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Casting TWoP with that sword probably costs 50 durability, that's the usual durability cost for items with special attacks like that.
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# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:19 |
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I forgot about that spinning tree. Did any of the devs ever comment on it? Or any of the more spergy loreposters? I have no idea why it spins
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# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:45 |
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I think it's just slowly turning to face you.
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# ? Jan 23, 2016 19:52 |
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:I forgot about that spinning tree. It's how it moves. If you go fight the moonlight butterfly and walk back through the area the first tree will be completely away from the path and you can just walk by it. It stops moving/spinning when you get near because that's its camouflage
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# ? Jan 23, 2016 20:08 |
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VietTam posted:It's how it moves. Did not know the first one would move away too, huh But yeah, I went back and looked at the video and the second tree did stop turning when I got close to it
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# ? Jan 23, 2016 22:04 |
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IIRC the first tree will actually move to block the entrance. So when you come back, you wander around looking for where you came in, don't find the entrance, find a path that wasn't there before, and are all but intended to find the Wolf Ring and jump back to the starting area. Instead, most people seem to kill the Butterfly after sprinting past all the stone guardians and treemen, realize they're on low estus and health, don't want to walk back to the bonfire, and instead they just homeward bone out.
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# ? Jan 23, 2016 23:26 |
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Do you like Gargoyles? I sure do 12 - Gargoyle Rumble e: i have already hosed up updating the OP, but it should be caught up now
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 00:42 |
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So satisfying. You've played for hours to progress. To open a 30 second elevator ride. 'These guys are not that dangerous' *goes down to low health* I also like how you can see the 2nd living gargoyle if you're paying attention. (one is pink, the other is stone grey) Veloxyll fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jan 26, 2016 |
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I think the most satisfying thing is the gargoyle cutscene - something about the way the first gargoyle hits the roof is viscerally pleasing to me. I think it's the way he rebounds slightly like a real creature would after a fall. It's very good attention to detail in the animation.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 01:30 |
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CuwiKhons posted:I think the most satisfying thing is the gargoyle cutscene - something about the way the first gargoyle hits the roof is viscerally pleasing to me. I think it's the way he rebounds slightly like a real creature would after a fall. It's very good attention to detail in the animation. Everything about this fight makes it feel so heavy and intimidating, just like all the demons we've been fighting. It's pretty fantastic
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 02:00 |
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I think that even if Solaire isn't the first-born he probably met him at some point. As Solaire's sword is depicted in a statue of what is probably Gwyn's wife holding a child, which considering his other two children aren't particularly known for swordsmanship would suggest his warrior first-born is the child in the statue. So Solaire might just have met the guy and gotten his sword for some reason, perhaps his whole mission to find the sun was given to him by the first-born who wants to fix Lordran but can't return because of the whole stripped of your godly status and cast out thing. If I remember correctly the statue is in the Undead Parish. There's three more statues like that which leads me to a theory about why Gwyndolin is so inhuman compared to what we know of Gwynevere and the First-born. But I'll probably hold off on that until further unless anyone has a dying desire to know.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 02:08 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:perhaps his whole mission to find the sun was given to him by the first-born who wants to fix Lordran but can't return because of the whole stripped of your godly status and cast out thing. Not to shatter your dreams but "find my own sun" pretty clearly refers to Solaire's own motivation of wanting to be as cool and good as the Lord of Sunlight.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 06:37 |
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Well considering the Sunlight Medal has the Symbol of Gwyn's Firstborn and says stuff about him watching over his warriors it's still pretty likely that Solaire has met the guy. Also finding your own sun sounds like a mission that every real Warrior of Sunlight would follow. Also it can be his own motivation but that doesn't meant it wasn't given to him, after all if Solaire is actually successful at finding his own Sun in a way that doesn't leave him hollow he almost certainly links the fire. I personally still like the idea that Solaire is the Firstborn but doesn't actually remember it. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jan 26, 2016 |
# ? Jan 26, 2016 06:53 |
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Solaire IS THE SUN. He's just on a quest to find his inner self. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jgb3qGo_hc&t=108s
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 07:16 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:Well considering the Sunlight Medal has the Symbol of Gwyn's Firstborn and says stuff about him watching over his warriors it's still pretty likely that Solaire has met the guy. Or, and stay with me here, maybe there's a religious sect in Lordran that reveres the concept of Gwyn's firstborn and gives out medals with an image representing him on it for that reason. Oh wait no that's literally the truth.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 07:18 |
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I have a dumb personal theory that some of the NPCs the player encounters are meant to reflect player archetypes. Solaire is the type who is way too into RPing.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 08:32 |
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Paracelsus posted:I have a dumb personal theory that some of the NPCs the player encounters are meant to reflect player archetypes. No, I think you're on to something. Patches is the troll, Petrus is two-faced, Lautrec does to Firekeepers what most speed-runners do, etc. Siegmeyer is absolutely the guy who bashes his head against a stage and over and over until finally summoning someone to get him through it, until in the end he gets to return the favor. It was kind of funny watching Vicas plink away for 15 damage a hit on the stone knights, while on the blind LP here Tempest casually one-shots them with a club. I've played a lot of Dark Souls, and I never realized just how stark damage type Pokemoning could be (I mean, besides things like trying to use a slashing weapon on the armored boar). For what it's worth, I think mathematically if you're hacking away at an enemy, you get the most damage-per-stamina with 2-handed R1s. And yeah, if the last hit on an enemy with a body part you can break off kills it, you don't get it. I don't know why it works that way, anyone else who's done a "3 Kings" run knows the game can track enemy model HP separately from the total boss health bar; but it is what it is. I tend to suicide or Homeward out if I miss the tail and/or don't get a gargoyle helmet after killing the first one, gotta have my antler hat.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 08:57 |
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Wayne posted:No, I think you're on to something. Patches is the troll, Petrus is two-faced, Lautrec does to Firekeepers what most speed-runners do, etc. Siegmeyer is absolutely the guy who bashes his head against a stage and over and over until finally summoning someone to get him through it, until in the end he gets to return the favor. The tail is also very nice for visiting Blight Town. Delicious poison resist. Though it does take some stats to wield. I was sorta wondering why Vicas was grinding through it with a sword when a reinforced club from the Undead Merchant can pretty much 2-hit them. And doesn't require that much strength. I don't recall any other enemy in the game having such a marked resist/vulnerability. Except maybe bone wheels. But eventually you can get two wheels and have a wheely good time.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 09:17 |
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Veloxyll posted:I don't recall any other enemy in the game having such a marked resist/vulnerability.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 09:58 |
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Lizard Wizard posted:Or, and stay with me here, maybe there's a religious sect in Lordran that reveres the concept of Gwyn's firstborn and gives out medals with an image representing him on it for that reason. I'm not saying they don't worship him though? I'm just saying he either met Solaire or founded the Warriors, because Solaire is either using his sword or a nice replica. Also Solaire isn't from Lordran so the Warriors of Sunlight have probably spread beyond Lordran, in fact it's more likely they started outside Lordran whilst the Firstborn was banished because I somehow doubt Gwyn would be happy with people worshiping someone who has been banished and stripped from the Annals. Also as I said I personally still think Solaire is the most likely candidate who we meet to be the Firstborn. The other stuff is just the other ways he could have a weapon associated with the Firstborn.
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 10:31 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:Also as I said I personally still think Solaire is the most likely candidate who we meet to be the Firstborn. But that's still much less likely than "we never met the Firstborn, they are not a character in the final game."
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 17:10 |
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Paracelsus posted:But that's still much less likely than "we never met the Firstborn, they are not a character in the final game." Then which NPC is Old Man McLoyf?
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 18:48 |
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Alright folks, let's tone down the snark arguing. I don't really mind talking about people's personal feelings about what lore actually is, but one of my big points in all of this is gonna be how some things are very purposely left unclear, and arguing what the "true story" is sort of misses the point. Dark Souls is very purposely a picture book with some of the pages ripped out
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# ? Jan 26, 2016 19:06 |
Alright, so the second gargoyle lacks a tail, and that much is immediately obvious. But, I never noticed before that one of it's wings is all shredded. Given that the first one is hale and hearty but the second joins the fight at half health, that would make sense.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 01:55 |
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Something that influenced Miyazaki's vision for Dark Souls was playing games that hadn't been translated into Japanese and trying to piece together a story where nothing was described explicitly. So, Dark Souls lore always hints at something intriguing, but the important details are never there, forcing the player to speculate. As such, everyone is going to have a different understanding of the backstory of Dark Souls and I like to hear how people interpreted the same information differently than I did. I always got the impression that the corpse wearing the Ring of the Sun's Firstborn was Gwyn's eldest child, but Solaire is a cool idea too.
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# ? Jan 27, 2016 02:10 |
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So we have all these keys now. Let's figure out what to do with them and talk about level design while we're at it 13 - Rock Me, Haveldeus
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# ? Jan 28, 2016 01:53 |
I swear, Oswald is the single most effective jump-scare in this entire game.
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# ? Jan 28, 2016 06:12 |
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Mazed posted:I swear, Oswald is the single most effective jump-scare in this entire game. My first time playing I totally attacked him and pissed him off, noticing he was an NPC I ran away and wondered if there was a way to calm him down. I was pretty dissapointed with the answer.
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# ? Jan 28, 2016 07:31 |
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Havel is my favorite not-character in the game. He's just so cool.
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 00:09 |
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In my most recent playthrough I got quite fed up with trying to backstab Havel and just dueled him head-on. Near the end Havel stood still to contemplate life and then pulled out his two-hit combo out of nowhere. It was a good fight.
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 00:44 |
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Vicas posted:So we have all these keys now. Let's figure out what to do with them and talk about level design while we're at it I always wondered why those crystal golems were there, from a story perspective. They're usually associated with a certain character that is nowhere near this area...
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 10:14 |
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They could be there to make sure Havel doesn't leave. That character certainly has a vested interest in keeping Havel locked up.
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 15:31 |
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Maybe they're trying to bring the Moonlight Butterfly boss home and just aren't particularly good at it for obvious reasons. It being in Darkroot is pretty weird considering it's also associated with the same character as the golems.
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 15:34 |
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Maybe they're keeping an eye on the hydra? It being dragon-related (since it gives dragon scales) and/or being a thing from ye olden times...
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 16:03 |
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Is posting spoilers allowed? They might be there keeping guard for the golem that holds Dusk of Oolacile. I think it might've been Seath that kidnapped her for experiments or some poo poo like that.
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# ? Jan 29, 2016 17:41 |
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^^Vicas posted:I am doing absolutely no planning at all and just talking about whatever feels good to talk about. I've been pretty free with spoilers pertaining to DS1 in this thread because this is sort of aimed at people who have played the game before and know the general flow of things Your case is fine, though I wouldn't really recommend going into it moreso since we will eventually be getting Dusk out of her wack rear end crystal prison
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