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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Another year of poorly drawn, I'll-informed opinions from terrible people.

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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Prokhor Zakharov posted:

Obama just announced that he's gonna executive order up some common sense gun control, poo poo is about to get crazy yall.



I can't wait until the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the right wingers about Obama's "tyranny" of not allowing them to spew more platitudes and bow before their NRA masters.

Wanamingo posted:

I'm glad Muir's banned from this thread, it should've happened ages ago.

When a man writes about his characters raping their wife to punish her for saying something positive about welfare, it's time to see that he's not even worthy of being laughed at.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Rorus Raz posted:

Stantis, although his art is fairly medicore. It's kinda like Ramirez except he can draw human beings.

He called out the GOP in waterboarding in Prickly City in the middle of the Bush administration, which already makes him better than the jackasses who retroactively deem Bush as bad. He also changed his mind on gay marriage, and he's has done cartoons in which he wrestles with the guilt of supporting the Iraq invasion.

Keep in mind he's still a conservative, so despite Bush getting so much wrong he still fawns over neoconservatives and Obama Bad.

Considering that the GOP has been determined to push the absolute refusal to admit fault in the past, present, or future or be shunned as the dreaded RINO; that's still a huge step. Only in relation to the dedication the perpetual tantrum that most of the GOP has. In any other terms, Stantis remains a tool.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Samurai Sanders posted:

I want to compile a list of all the things he has said that are at least close enough for ME to "Islamic terrorists", but Tinsley isn't worth the effort.

You could tattoo the list to his forehead and it still wouldn't matter: Tinsley is such a GOP shill, that nothing could ever make him admit something non-negative about a democrat. Even if he has to completely imagine a slight or harp on the most petty of word choice, he'll do it just to score some kind of point over Obama. That's without the racism and booze clouding his endlessly bitter mind.

Let's just hope that the year he finally drinks himself to death comes soon.

Geostomp fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Jan 3, 2016

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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alnilam posted:

The insane thing is, Palestinian stabbings DO make frontpage news. Every time. Someone getting stabbed in a far-off country and not dying makes bigger headlines than dozens of civilians dying in a bombing in Yemen. What the gently caress more does Kirschen want.

Palestine to no longer exist. That's it really. He's just scrambling for an excuse for his hatred.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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D.N. Nation posted:

Mike Lester is a drat ninja of the crocodile tears arts.



Does he not understand the concept of stereotypes or what?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Samurai Sanders posted:

That's not what I'm asking though. How would, or does, the government know in the first place who is a Muslim? Did he or any of his supporters spend even a half of a split loving second thinking that through? I mean, if the answer is "no" then I will totally accept that.

At what point did you think that Trump is trying to appeal to people with anything resembling logic? He's just hitting on all the racist and xenophobic paranoia he can because he has no idea what he could actually do to lead anyone meaningfully.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Samurai Sanders posted:

I wondered if at some point someone with something between their ears had asked him questions about this stuff and how he had responded. I assume that as he goes on, those situations will appear more and more.

If he wins the primary and is no longer insulated by his loyal super-racists, probably. Until then, he gets to spew more and more blatant hate speech while promising to magically destroy whatever scares the old xenophobes and see his numbers skyrocket.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Gravel Gravy posted:

Haven't US footballs been made of cow leather for a good long while?

I thought they were synthetic now, which makes them suited for finding Muslim Replicants that replaced the populace.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Willatron posted:

This sums up why I usually hate moderate or centrist positions. They act enlightened in their neutrality on issues while ignoring everything that makes them a very one-sided issue, like cops gunning down young, unarmed black men somehow being "Well really, both are kind of wrong if you think about it".

That's a big part of why I hate the usual TV news. They don't present moderate opinions, they just legitimize things like blatant racism and ignoring science by pretending that they have an actual point. It's no wonder the conservatives have gotten so brazen with appeals to bigotry in recent years with big new programs normalizing it. The Golden Mean fallacy just drags us all down to crazy town.

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Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Tiler Kiwi posted:

afaik basically nobody who made the constitution was all that happy about it

less "we shed blood for this perfect document", more "gently caress this committee"

The obsession with glorifying the founding of the country always confused me so much. It's like people got so hopped up on the ridiculous oversimplifications shown to them as six-year-olds that they all but worship the founders without really knowing anything about them. As if these were divine decrees rather than just old government documents with all the pointless bickering that implies.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Samurai Sanders posted:

If I was a rich crazy political contributor I'd totally give political parties/PACs money in a bag with a dollar sign on it and make sure everyone saw it just to say what are you gonna do about it, bitches??

I'm kind of surprised that they don't have big public displays of doing just that. You know that it'd get hordes of cheering groupies so long as it said something trite about freedom while the money was passed out.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Rebochan posted:

A few new ones, and a few that I was supposed to post yesterday that haven't yet been posted.


2


The party that lives and dies on "pray for the victims" is daring to rant about platitudes? Really? More and more proof that wingnuts and gun worshipers lack anything resembling self-awareness.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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theflyingexecutive posted:

It is beyond me the amount of vitriol over tears for slaughtered children.

Mocking grief over dead children as insincere is the only way you can keep advocating no restrictions on the security blankets/meal tickets of ARE guns and still convince yourself that you aren't selfish rear end in a top hat.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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I love the complete non-logic this represents. He might as well claim that the underwear itself repels tigers.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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fade5 posted:

I mean we could put Bin Laden's corpse in that chair if we knew where it was, but it's at the bottom of the sea.

I'm sure Ramirez would explain that it was really due to Bush-era "enhanced interrogation" results pointing the way and Obama stumbling into it by luck. Also, he caused ISIL to exist because they suddenly sprang into existence once Bush left office.

There is no reality in Ramirez-world: only GOP talking points.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Ibogaine posted:

The irony is that conservatives in the US pretty much define themselves by being outraged about things they don't like. Back in the 60s it was communists, beatnicks, hippies, "negroe activists", unruly students, and so on, and since then there has never been a shortage of things they can resent and complain about. The whole platform of the GOP has been "We're outraged at things you (white people) are upset about as well" for more than five decades. Apart from all those infantile syndicated cartoons, they have whole TV and radio networks which pretty much don't do anything but whine like little babies about the millions of things they are offended by such as light bulbs, LGTB rights or the scientific consensus regarding man made climate change. (And I only touched the tip of the shitberg here). Furthermore, if all else fails, they simply invent something they can be angry about, like "The War On Christmas".

And yet they somehow convinced themselves that the other ones are the ones who should stop complaining and start taking "it" like a man, "it" meaning misogyny, homophobia, racism, etc in this context. The degree of cognitive dissonance at work here is flabberghasting.

When they do it, it's defending the (usually terrible) status quo. When others do it, it's demanding some form of change. If you can't argue with any kind of logical or moral basis, then you have to try to whip up some kind of outrage to make yourself the victim. Otherwise you'd have to admit fault and we all know right wingers despise that. So they'll rage about kids being whiny babies for not ruining their bodies and futures for the amuse me of old people or black students not stoically enduring poop swasticas like good little negroes.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Cape Cod Crab Chip posted:

I know almost every one of us thinks Obama "set race relations back by decades" by daring to be black, giving his opposition no choice but to lose their poo poo, but I wonder how Jarlsberg explains it.

His news bubble didn't talk about race relations (besides judging any minority as inferior), therefore racism was clearly solved before Obama dared to be uppity.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Takoluka posted:

Percival Dunwoody is my favorite comic ever.

It's an old joke, but mildly annoyed Hitler makes it work.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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A real leader would have made those sailor fight to the death for no reason! :smug:

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Oct 22, 2008

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Selachian posted:

Is there any way to read this other than "conservatives think bullies are awesome"?

Well most of the loud ones have a massive persecution complex so, in their minds, it's striking back at an oppressor rather than bullying.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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AVeryLargeRadish posted:

IMO, Branco is worse, and by worse I mean The Worst. :barf:

It's a toss up between him and the McCoys for me. Rameriez gets dishonorable mention.

I have to admit that out of all the cartoonists here, Lester seems to be the objectively worst human being.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Sir Tonk posted:



"Let me tell you about the black experience"

As a black man myself, that bloated idiot can go screw himself.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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vyelkin posted:

"I would rather thousands of Americans die than pour water up a terrorist's nose for thirty seconds" is the falsest false dichotomy I've ever seen.

Weren't there a lot of desperate attempts at justification from conservatives when it came out that all this "tough" "enhanced interrogation" didn't get us a single useful bit of intel?

I remember Cheney at least trying to claim that it lead the Obama administration to Bin Laden (even when it was proven to have nothing to do with it).

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Air is lava! posted:

I understad that Trump makes his best efort to prevent this, but how "moderate" will he look later? The American political spectrum seems to be on a slope which always goes farther to the right. And sometimes it feels more like a wall.
"The only reason we lost 2016 is because that Trump was way to soft on the Muslim threat, when he announced to deport all of them. God King Emperor Reagan Envoy of the Invisible Hand, would have executed them on the spot, to sell their organs, to make America great again. We need a strong leader who stands above human law. Vote Jeff 'Marow Crusher' Miller 2020."

And 4 years later that guy will be to soft and left wing even for the democrats.

I still like to think that we'll look back on this in about fifteen or twenty years and see this period as nothing more than the last gasp of dying reactionaries and a stain on our nation, much like the attacks on the Civil Rights Movement. Whether or not we'll actually learn anything from it, I really doubt it, but I still think we'll swing back to sanity once the old scared white demographic thins out a bit. That or after we get some less ridiculously Gerrymandered districts so relying on the least rational voters are not as viable prey for crooked politicians.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Abyssal Squid posted:

I like how the GOP is unable to call Trump out on treating his supporters like idiots, because that's their entire platform and he's just better at it than they are.

It was only a matter of time: when you build your support base on mindless fear, blind hatred, proud ignorance, and loud rage they will stray the second the find someone louder, meaner, and dumber. Nobody does loud, mean, and dumb like Trump.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Gato posted:

Brit here chiming in to say that this is almost entirely right, but it's worth emphasizing this part. There are only 8 or so major national newspapers in England (not sure what the situation is like in the rest of the UK), and they're controlled by a small handful of very rich people. The Times and Sun are owned by Murdoch, the Daily Mail needs no introduction, the Express is owned by a right-wing porn baron who desperately wants to be knighted, the Independent and Evening Standard are owned by a Russian oligarch (who mostly leaves them to their own devices, but occasionally insists on favourable coverage for the Tories such as last year's General Election) and the Telegraph is owned by a pair of tax-dodging billionaires. The only exceptions are the Mirror, a left-wing tabloid that's been understandably wary about being too pro-Corbyn in case it hurts its populist credentials, and the Guardian, which has a sprouted a massive hate-boner for Corbyn in an attempt to prove how mature and sensible it is.

e: so if you match the cartoonists to the papers, you'll see that the Guardian, and sometimes the Independent and Times cartoonists are very much to the left of their paper's editorial line.

Someone asked earlier why the UK toons are generally so much better than US ones, and whether there's a big sea of poo poo ones that aren't being posted. Bear in mind how much more restricted our newspaper scene is compared to the US and you'll appreciate that what you're seeing is basically all the mainstream newspaper cartoons in Britain for any given day - of the big papers, only 4 or 5 have regular political cartoonists, and smaller regional papers are dying and probably have better things to spend their money on. And as has been pointed out here and in the last thread, they're guilty of all the same fallacies US cartoonists are (except Rowson, who's just impenetrable instead) just with prettier art.

this has been your regular scheduled update on British newspapers

So it's like what we'd get if Fox News and Rupert Murdoch owned larger portion of the media than they already do?

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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I kind of feel like eating a burger just out of spite for those creepy vegan comics.


Selachian posted:

Again, it was not a week ago that these people were sniping about Obama suggesting we try to cure cancer.

If he somehow managed to cure every single form of cancer before leaving office, they'd complain about how he was such a communist for taking away so much revenue from the pharmaceutical industry.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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beepsandboops posted:

Wasn't there a blanket ban on vegan comix?

I once met Fabio while he was selling his protein powder, he warned me of something similar so it must be true :v:

EDIT:

This one?



It says something that the parody Ramirez has much, much better art than him.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Cat Mattress posted:

Reading that anime clipart vegan stuff going on about "but animals!" always reminds me of stories like this.


Those vegan pet idiots piss me off. If you're so opposed to meat in any form, just get a rabbit or gerbil or something. Don't starve carnivore so you can feel self-righteous about a cause. Fluffy isn't going to spontaneously become omnivorous so you can feel better.

It's not nearly as bad as the nuts who refuse to so much as give babies formula or breast milk, though. They should be straight up arrested for child abuse.

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Oct 22, 2008

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beepsandboops posted:

Branco really loves judgemental MLK statue

2013:


2014:


2015:




Someone please make a life sized version of this statue and shove it up Branco's rear end.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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loquacius posted:

The kind of stuff Trump says, I don't think I'm being charitable toward him when I say that he seems to believe every word of it

also, most of the people I've heard say "he doesn't actually BELIEVE those things he says" have been Trump supporters so calling Trump cynical feels more like giving them the benefit of the doubt than calling him sincere feels like giving him the benefit of the doubt

I guess the question is just what flavor of terrible human being Trump is: a babbling racist idiot or a miserable manipulator just harping on what he knows will draw out the worst in people for attention. I'd like to say a lot of both myself. Either way, the fact that he's ever been taken seriously proves just how bad politics in this country has become.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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xthetenth posted:

Don't forget loving endless concern trolling, blatant misrepresentation and circlejerking about ludicrously lovely arguments against feminism.

It sounds like an entire community of Chris Muir.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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loquacius posted:

I think someone in GBS said they had him playing Xbox or something at one point because that is more comprehensible to the average viewer than EVE Online

Let's be honest. The kind of people that go in to watch Michael Bay's latest turd and/or buy into the Benghazi nonsense are very unlikely to understand anything about games more complicated than "shoot mans".

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Zeroisanumber posted:

I don't know if I can live in a world where Ramirez has a non-poo poo opinion.

Give him a minute. I'm sure he'll find some anti-Democrat or racist aspect to latch onto.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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Tinsley continues to be the whiny hack we all know and wish alcohol poisoning would finally catch up to.

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Oct 22, 2008

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Broken Loose posted:

Is anybody else bothered that Drunky Duck is interviewing the media as a concept? Like, the media is interviewing the media? He's not even the real "main stream media," he's what Tinsley believes the MSM to be (a left-wing news station that hired a right-wing duck because of Affirmative Action), and somehow the fictional left-wing news station is interviewing the concept of fictional left-wing news stations?

I noticed. It's about as lazy a strawman as possible and his "argument" is essentially "No, I'm not. You are!!". It's no surprise given what we know about his self awareness and dedication to the "truth". I never knew there was an actual story behind that his little drunk duck.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Oh, I forgot to mention: Shooting that pig really pissed off Obama because apparently the president has nothing better to do than spy on people in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and be upset when they do things. Also, they shot the pig with exploding ammo. Because it is totally necessary for the average citizen to be able to buy exploding ammo whenever they feel like it.

Good to know Muir's little fantasy world remains the same.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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CrowsNestMutineer posted:

Unless, of course, your entire political strategy depends on people being gullible and ill-informed.

It's vicious cycle: uninformed voters vote against education out of fear of cultural alienation and resentment while politicians deliberately pitch education as the enemy specifically because preying on these irrational opinions makes for very easily lead voters, then education suffers thanks to their mismanagment leading to more uninformed voters railing against education.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

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seiferguy posted:

Is there a point to the GOP debates anymore? I've lost track of how many there's been and all that's newsworthy about them is that the networks get to pick who they throw into the kid's table.

Beyond preaching to the choir, not really. They do allow candidates to whip up excitement from thier supporters and take potshots at each other. Especially the GOP which thrives on displays of childish bravado, unbridled bigotry, and general bluster that they so thrive on these days. Being able to deflect actual questions by accusing the moderators of bias is a double bonus as it lets them score points by playing into the all-consuming persecution complex their voters tend to have while squashing any actual logic.

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Oct 22, 2008

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Full Battle Rattle posted:

A bet a lot of tough, principled conservatives are going to be singing a different tune when Trump gets the nom, I think that's what I can't wait for the most

They'll resolve that issue, in true right wing fashion, by completely rewriting history in favor of what benefits them most at this particular moment. What would really surprise me is if Trump could swallow his pride enough to tone down his bigotry and bullying after leaving the protective sphere of neocon followers and facing the general public.

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