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From what I can gather the basic gist is that Corbyn, despite having principles that stand firmly against New Labour, something he's spent his entire political career fighting, and him being in a position of power, he doesn't really hold those beliefs and is actually just the same strand of Neo-liberalism that's got a new beardy face. I think? It's a bold new take on the idea that the new boss is the same as the old boss, but one I don't think is particularly grounded in reality. Angepain posted:please tell me that is an actual published comic where someone's taken David Cameron's words and put them into the mouths of the evil guys It's an actual panel from Captain Britain and the Mighty Defenders, so yes someone has.  Nice little nod to Judge Dredd there, too. Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jan 1, 2016 |
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Nope, the comic was released in 2015 I think a lot of Tories of Cameron's generation probably were slightly nerdy and like most British nerdy types in that era probably liked 2000 AD. I figure the main difference is that while most saw the dystopian Mega-Cities and its street-level due process as a hellish vision of a possible future, Tories viewed it as a model to aspire to.
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Jan 1, 2016 22:45
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forkboy84 posted:What's been written is that apparently Jeremy Corbyn & John McDonnell are actually Blairites, but are pretending to be socialists to fool the left. People are really, really chomping at the bit for deselection to begin because it would, in their minds, confirm everything about Corbyn and how he's out for blood etc. The reason this is, is because such dirty, underhanded tactics became dirty, underhanded tactics when New Labour started to use them. Rather than them being legitimate tools to limit the power and scope of people who routinely fail to represent their constituents, and party policies (i.e. most Blairities) they are now scary things akin to Stalinist purges because he's a loony lefty who is trying to destroy the party from within. Much like how the Lords doing their jobs and holding lovely legislation to account is now a completely undemocratic act, the act of removing people who are not actually doing their job is a terribly undemocratic act, since people routinely voted to not have their voices listened to, even in the vast majority of cases where they didn't. In an ideal world Corbyn would be doing everything to get rid of the shits who completely undermine the party and routinely don't actually bother to listen to the people they claim to represent, but his hand is forced because by doing so he's playing into the persecution fantasies of people who think that he's just as bad as they are.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:47
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Pissflaps posted:By that logic shouldn't Corbyn have been deselected years ago? I'm sure you could ask the people of his constituency if they feel Corbyn has accurately and truthfully represented their views. I'm pretty sure he's done a better job than all those Labour MPs who mentioned how their constituents overwhelmingly displayed disapproval for voting for airstrikes, but they decided to vote for it anyway.
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Jan 2, 2016 00:59
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Pissflaps posted:But Ddraig is advocating that Corbyn does everything he can to have MPs deselected? If MPs do not reflect the people who voted for them then they are clearly not the best person for the job. This isn't a very difficult concept to grasp. It's sort of the entire basis of the representative democracy we have. That "representative" word is actually quite important, as it happens.
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Jan 2, 2016 01:03
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Given Corbyn's unrelenting and infuriating reasonableness maybe "Everything within his power" is more along the lines of "speaking with the CLPs to encourage them to sort their houses out" rather than erecting a wall and placing people against it. I guess he could bust out the purges and break into people's houses and make them disappear from existence but I'm guessing it's not that particular aspect that won him such a huge amount of support in his leadership position. The real problem arises is that the genuinely useful tools of a healthy democracy have been abused to the point where any use of them is seen as inherently abusive.
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Jan 2, 2016 02:31
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I'm pretty sure if Cameron declared a state of emergency and pushed through legislation to give himself emergency powers there would still be people saying "well, it's not really fascism... he doesn't have jackboots"
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Jan 2, 2016 12:54
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Jose posted:this is particularly annoying considering what lovely christians they are I'm pretty sure it's right there in the Beatitudes that the meek shall be subjected to the blessing of forced labour.
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Jan 2, 2016 13:03
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We all know the real way fascism will invade our shores: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg
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Jan 2, 2016 17:03
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Saudi in addition to providing money and oil also has another valuable export we benefit from: Terrorism! With Saudi radicals promoting Wahhabism all across the globe we've got no end of terrorist attacks coming our way that can be used to justify more money and power being consolidated at the top. It's a win/win/win
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Jan 2, 2016 17:30
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"If America jumped off a bridge would you jump off too?" Yes, yes we would 
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OwlFancier posted:There is something mildly worrying about the notion of a unified European foreign policy as a means of combating US, Russian, and Chinese foreign policies. Given that the EU is (supposedly) a union of the lesser states of Europe into a single political entity I see no real reason why that couldn't be extended to agreement of foreign policy. Surely one of the advantages of such a union would be that such things would be possible. I imagine it would be about as easy as herding cats to actually implement, but in theory there's nothing too off about it.
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From the Encyclopaedia of Marxism: https://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/f/a.htm#fascism quote:1. Right Wing: Fascists are fervently against: Marxism, Socialism, Anarchism, Communism, Environmentalism; etc – in essence, they are against the progressive left in total, including moderate lefts (social democrats, etc). Fascism is an extreme right wing ideology, though it can be opportunistic. I think we just need to get 9 for a full bingo. IDS alone can completely and totally sustain number 8 on his own, with his completely unerring belief that if he believes it to be so, it is.
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Jan 2, 2016 22:20
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Maybe we can finally get rid of all the grave abuses of office/power by having Blair do them and people spiting him. Ok, so it won't work for illegal wars, but maybe we can finally sort out something if we just follow him around and put a stop to everything he's doing. The man is a menace, he must be stopped.
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Jan 3, 2016 14:47
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Danczuk is creepy as gently caress, even if what he did wasn't technically illegal. My sister is 15 years old, so not too far off the age of the girl involved in this. It just makes my skin crawl. I'm not too far off my 30s and I wouldn't even dream of pursing any sort of relationship with anyone under 20, because it would be feel creepy as hell. If I was pushing 50 that would be so, so far off the radar it would be inconceivable.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:I don't think it was a relationship he was after. I was being generous to him. Being in a relationship implies some degree of appreciation for someone beyond their physical appearance, anything more casual with such a huge age difference is vomit inducing. Being the guardian of a 15 year old girl I have to deal with people from that age range quite a bit and jesus christ they are loving annoying and awful as hell. Just the biggest group of self-absorbed assholes imaginable. The only reason I tolerate my sister is because she's family, I can't imagine even wanting to be in the same room as someone I didn't know that well.
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Pissflaps posted:What did people do with the toenail clippings they bought off her? I have no idea. I consider myself a pretty massive pervert and I haven't heard of toenail clippings before. Seems some dudes are pressing forth into bold new unexplored sexual avenues and I salute them, or would if it wasn't with a 17 year old girl 
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Maybe she was selling them to practitioners of sympathetic magic and they were making some sort of poppet with them or whatever.
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Well with cannibalism I'd probably happily allow people to eat me, assuming I died in such a way that it wasn't for the sole purpose of eating me. Then again I'd probably happily allow people to do anything to me after I'm dead, since as I've said I'm a massive pervert and wouldn't give a (good) gently caress either way.
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I guess Benn thinks it's his position and not his politics that make him more likely to relegated to the back benches. I think he's employing the Costanza defence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaqktZ8N0MQ Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Jan 4, 2016 01:21
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From the age of 16 until 20 I never left Cardiff. To think I was missing out on art grants is quite frankly depressing.
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In the Metro today there is a bit about Corbyn talking to Cameron. They've employed lip readers to see what he was saying. They've determined that it is about Simon and his ex wife, who used to be a prostitute. There's desperation for you right there.
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Jan 5, 2016 10:38
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Pissflaps posted:What poo poo does the rest of the EU have to put up with from the UK? Presumably feckless UKIP MEPs who turn up, don't engage and flick V signs at everyone else while on the EU's payroll.
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Nicholas Shaxon has written a book about Tax Havens called Treasure Islands. He makes a very strong case as to the UK being a huge tax haven with London in particular being the epicenter.
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I don't subscribe to Malthus' views because I think they're evil but I do think that having kids is generally a bad thing, especially (or even exclusively) in developed countries, given that there seems to be absolutely no other concerted effort at all to combat climate change and in general given how lovely things are going to be in a couple of years time, it seems like a net-evil to willingly subject people to that. I guess having children is a huge, huge contributing factor to climate change in a number of ways thanks to the hosed up way the western world works, so I do feel bad contributing to that. This isn't really a fault with people having children, of course, which I think is a fundamental inalienable right but it is a huge problem that society is set up in such a way that makes it a sub-optimal thing to do, especially where other people are concerned. jabby posted:The Telegraph have literally added a timer counting up the seconds to their 'Reshuffle Live' page. Given how the media are so desperate to smear him with anything it does seem like a very, very fun game to just lead them on with vague notions that they're constantly reinforcing because they can't fathom anything else. I like to think Corbyn is in a room somewhere, and between interviewshe's checking all the various news sources to see people absolutely making GBS threads themselves for no god drat reason, and he's smiling to himself 
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It's a tricky situation. I've pretty much brought up my sister after both our parents died so I guess I have that parental experience, and I can't imagine ever wanting to have children of my own for a whole host of reasons. My bloodline has been an unbroken chain from now until the dawn of life itself but it ends with me, which is a pretty incredible power-trip, certainly more so than continuing it, so even the standard arguments don't really fly that well with me. Ever since I was made aware of the wider world and how everything is interlinked I've always strived to life my life to make it so that the world is in a slightly better state than my birth made it worse, so I think that's a noble goal to pursue, even if it pales in significance to everything else.
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namesake posted:I AM THE ULTIMATE DESTROYER It's certainly a much more dramatic intervention than having children. Thank god I live in a time where I can voluntarily decide to undo millennia of gene transfer with a latex sleeve or a hormone pill. God bless science. Although I probably wouldn't equate that with punching myself in the dick - the dick has numerous functions beyond spreading the human menace. Don't cut off your dick to spite your balls etc.
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forkboy84 posted:Looks like the livebloggers might be kept busy today, the Shadow Rail Minister has handed in his resignation. Was he found on the steps of Westminster with a sign on his body saying "Never"?
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thespaceinvader posted:It can be all three. It's all three. George Carlin is quite apropos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igsb3ejgbL8 He's all three, indeed. Fans posted:I occasionally pass through the town of Three Cocks and I've never attempted to steal the sign. Is this going to affect my position in the queue when people are being lined up against the wall? I remember Three Cocks! When I was in high school we made a trip to the Hay festival and we passed by a few road signs saying Three Cocks was around. Rush Limbo fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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Phoon posted:the shitbottle signs are the basis of an entire stewart lee routine If the routine is to be believed it's the basis of his entire career.
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Renfield posted:Cardiff - I asked in this thread (well, one of its predecessors) if it was an ok place to live, and avoided the places I was warned against ! A friend of mine once broke his leg trying to clean the pigeon poo poo off the statue because he felt it was slightly disrespectful to him. Thank god for the NHS.
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Coohoolin posted:Thanks! It was long enough as it is and it took me 12 takes to not gently caress up the minor fold in the chorus, I wasn't going to sit there for an hour getting a French verse right. If you're up for taking requests some Manics stuff would be good. I'd quite like to hear a folk version of the entirety of The Holy Bible, or Archives of Pain at the very least.
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Prince John posted:Holy poo poo, thanks so much for posting this. We've just been watching back to back clips, he's got a hell of a stage presence and is pretty insightful. So sad I hadn't discovered him earlier and that he's no longer around to do more. George Carlin was one of the greats. I think he had something like three heart attacks previously so he already pushed his luck quite a bit. I was lucky enough to see him not long before he died and he was incredible. I'm kind of glad he managed to get one more show out before he died so his last one wasn't Life is Worth Losing, which would have been an appropriate last show for him but was pretty grim and depressing.
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That's not streaking, Dan. Streaking is running naked. Running in your underwear just makes you mental.
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serious gaylord posted:The upcoming housing bust is going to be caused from all the foreign investors flooding out of the market. Well its going to be a bust in London, the rest of the UK should survive pretty well. Burn London to the ground imo.
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JFairfax posted:if it's overhead electric I'll be impressed if you can reach that cable!! In my younger days I could have managed it. These days not so much. Getting older has its downsides.
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Jedit posted:I don't know. One part upper class entitlement, one part cocaine - next thing you know you're standing up telling the entire room how you'd fix the economy if you were in charge. In Osborne's case the room just happens to be the Commons chamber. It's a crying shame he's not Chancellor of the Exchequer or some other position that would let him fix things, isn't it?
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Also you have to do a cover of I'm Gonna Be, just for shits and giggles. Your Scottish civic pride is on the line.
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Thank god she was caught now, she could end up being the British Vlado Taneski, or maybe a Wallace Souza
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shrike82 posted:Hopefully this results in further funding cuts at the BBC It's one of those weird situations. I do happen to, on a very personal level, love the BBC. Always have. That's why it saddens me when they resort to poo poo like this. There definitely needs to be some sort of reprisal, because they very clearly hosed up, and that is never acceptable, but they're in such a state that those who wish to destroy it find it that much easier to do so. It's a real damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
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