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JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

I'm not really sure how Hillary Clinton organizing states in the Western Hemisphere to demand Honduras hold elections after the coup did anything to further destabilize the country. And an opinion piece by a hardcore Chavista doesn't help to answer the question.

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JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Exclamation Marx posted:

By publicly claiming to support Zelaya while secretly supporting the military coup and endorsing a sham election
https://theintercept.com/2015/07/06/clinton-honduras-coup/
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exc...rica_democracy/

Money quote:

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/ posted:

it’s impossible to accuse Clinton of foreknowledge of the coup. Likewise, no smoking gun exists to definitively conclude that Clinton and her associates actively and willfully acted to maintain the coup government in league with the elite and corporate interests

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
I think it would be pretty easy to prove that the US was responsible for the conditions which created this wave of migration from Central America and Honduras in particular. Relying on some unsupported "Clinton caused the coup!" story seems like a hard way to go about that but :shrug:

In regards to Obama's policy here, I think it's a whole lot easier to make the case "we should defer the enforcement of immigration law towards the parents of American citizens who have lived in the US for over five years" than "we should defer the enforcement of immigration law towards recent immigrants". And if he's arguing the former case won't cause more immigrants to come to the US without documentation, then he's committed to rejecting the latter case.

JeffersonClay fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Jan 5, 2016

JeffersonClay
Jun 17, 2003

by R. Guyovich
DACA and DAPA apply to more than 5 million undocumented immigrants. I'd say that's a pretty big difference between The republicans and Obama.

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