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What are the go to classes for people that like to play support? Is it Force Master and Sumoner?
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Jan 6, 2016 06:33
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Well I have noting to do until legion, what do people think of this game?
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Jan 6, 2016 07:15
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hm, windows defender has decided the JP translation patcher is malware and deleted it. drat, guess that's the end of that. Suppose I could try the TW version to kill time until the US launch, anyway...
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Jan 6, 2016 07:30
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CoffeeBooze posted:What are the go to classes for people that like to play support? Is it Force Master and Sumoner? Summoner has a lot of party utility between its ability to give the group Dandelion (negates next hit and provides stealth), a minor heal and the cat's tanking. Force Master is more along the lines of straight damage. It does have utility in the form of phantom grip, but Destroyer has a better hold, followed by KungFu Master. When spec'd for group play, Des and KFM holds just provide more bonuses, though KFM also has the option of making its hold into an AoE party buff if you've already got grabs covered. When people talk about a support in this game, they usually mean having someone with a grab in the group. Note that the Summoner cat also has a grab, but it doesn't have the fancy bonuses of the other classes attached to it. You'll only want to use the cat's grab in a group if no other classes in the group are capable of it. As for what the grabs actually do, they allow you to render an incapacitated enemy completely disabled for 4-6 seconds depending on how its spec'd. And yes, they even work on bosses! You need to double up on the same disable on a boss first to make them vulnerable to being grabbed, but some classes like Destroyer can easily do that solo. Not only do you get a breather and a bunch of free hits, but the better grabs offer bonuses against the enemy, from a stacking crit bonus to resource regeneration on every hit for the duration of the hold.
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Jan 6, 2016 07:57
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if I buy the founder pack, can I play the beta? I want to somehow play this game but it seem like I am walking though a malware minefield when looking for the other regions patchers.
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Jan 6, 2016 08:26
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Cyron posted:if I buy the founder pack, can I play the beta? I want to somehow play this game but it seem like I am walking though a malware minefield when looking for the other regions patchers. There's no betas left, just early access, which is available with the cheapest pack, starting a week from Friday IIRC.
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Jan 6, 2016 08:51
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Russia had a very rudimentary English version, unless they got rid of it with the NA release approaching. It's been a year since I've touched it.
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Jan 6, 2016 10:05
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Cyron posted:if I buy the founder pack, can I play the beta? I want to somehow play this game but it seem like I am walking though a malware minefield when looking for the other regions patchers. Yeah as Ciaphas said we're done with betas. If you want to try it still, Taiwan's going to be the easiest to sign up for and play. The main problem is depending on where you are in the world your ping is probably going to be pretty lovely so the game won't feel as smooth as it will on better ping. Here's a thread on how to sign up and install the english patch. Unfortunately bnsdojo's image links appear to be making GBS threads themselves at the moment so it probably will be hard to figure out until they fix that. At any rate, their links and patch are legit.
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Jan 6, 2016 11:42
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Do you get any neat stuff or bonuses for a founder's pack? asking for a friend
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Jan 6, 2016 13:50
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Lastgirl posted:Do you get any neat stuff or bonuses for a founder's pack? Early access Premium currency Premium time For the higher levels: Cowboy/cowgirl outfit Weapon skin Name/character reservation.
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Jan 6, 2016 14:08
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Stormgale posted:Early access Also, the Master Pack gives 50 inventory expander pouches (enough to unlock all but the last line on a character), Brilliant Viridian and Brilliant Cinderlands keys (guarantees your class weapon from chests, I wrote about it in the OP), plus a bunch of potions and repair tools. You also get another costume besides the cowboy one, and some fancy titles. Here's what the cowboy costume looks like, if you're curious.
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Jan 6, 2016 14:27
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I assume all the founders stuff is per account, not per character?
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Jan 6, 2016 14:50
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fadam posted:I assume all the founders stuff is per account, not per character? Yes, but the costumes are bind-to-account so you can mail them between your characters if you want.
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Jan 6, 2016 15:22
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There's no way to see those new styles and colors until head start, is there?
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Jan 6, 2016 18:39
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Anoia posted:There's no way to see those new styles and colors until head start, is there? The hairs? We can probably see them during the name reservation stage when we go in to make characters. At least I think thats how it works.
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Jan 6, 2016 19:22
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How big was the file download for the beta? just wondering because I kind of have a limited quota.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:00
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This looks exactly like TERA: Fun combat, cheesy world, no endgame. So long as leveling is fun I'm down.
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Jan 6, 2016 22:26
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Pierson posted:This looks exactly like TERA: Fun combat, cheesy world, no endgame. So long as leveling is fun I'm down. There is very much an endgame. Granted, we'll be getting it over time (though they claim they want to expedite it as much as they can), but in Korea there's a ton of content. I think there's something like 17 different dungeons spread across varying gear requirements in both 6man (easier) and 4man (harder) forms, 3 24-man raids, Mushin's Tower where you do solo boss fights on each floor to advance to the next, and plenty of world bosses and daily quest areas. Endgame gearing in this game is less RNG intensive than Tera as well, instead of trying to get enchants to stick you'll be gradually collecting materials to evolve your weapons and accessories, and collecting soul shield sets and enhancing them with extra stats using other soul shields. You'll also be gradually getting xp for your Hongmoon levels to get more skill points. There's also a ridiculous amount of costumes and other cosmetic stuff to collect and farm for.
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Jan 6, 2016 23:46
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cathead posted:There is very much an endgame. Granted, we'll be getting it over time (though they claim they want to expedite it as much as they can), but in Korea there's a ton of content. I think there's something like 17 different dungeons spread across varying gear requirements in both 6man (easier) and 4man (harder) forms, 3 24-man raids, Mushin's Tower where you do solo boss fights on each floor to advance to the next, and plenty of world bosses and daily quest areas. Something I want to know about crafts, can you have critical failures like in some other games were your stuff actually fails to complete, or downgrades existing gear? I hate that and it feels so insanely RNG to me.
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Jan 7, 2016 00:11
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Kimsemus posted:Something I want to know about crafts, can you have critical failures like in some other games were your stuff actually fails to complete, or downgrades existing gear? I hate that and it feels so insanely RNG to me. As far as I know there's nothing like that in the game.
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Jan 7, 2016 00:26
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cathead posted:As far as I know there's nothing like that in the game. The official site posted:Be careful, some Transmutation recipes do have a chance to fail, and will destroy your crafting components.
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Jan 7, 2016 01:04
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Reicere posted:So normal crafting can fail, but not the fusion upgrade stuff you'll actually care about. Good point, I forgot about that. Transmutation isn't really crafting though, insofar as its not related to the stuff you take crafting professions for. It's just a way of combining stuff to get new/better gems, outfits, and weapon evolution ingredients. Definitely not something you'll NEED to use to progress. None of the transmutation stuff I tried in beta destroyed components if it failed though, so I'm not sure which combinations actually do that.
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Jan 7, 2016 02:00
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Anoia posted:Russia had a very rudimentary English version, unless they got rid of it with the NA release approaching. It's been a year since I've touched it. I've been playing on the RU server with the English patch for the last couple months and have had zero issues in understanding what was going on.
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Jan 7, 2016 02:04
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cathead posted:There is very much an endgame. Granted, we'll be getting it over time (though they claim they want to expedite it as much as they can), but in Korea there's a ton of content. I think there's something like 17 different dungeons spread across varying gear requirements in both 6man (easier) and 4man (harder) forms, 3 24-man raids, Mushin's Tower where you do solo boss fights on each floor to advance to the next, and plenty of world bosses and daily quest areas.
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Jan 7, 2016 02:19
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Im an Australian playing the Taiwan version atm and its going okay, if I decided to play on the NA server how hosed will I be from lag? I get about 350ms to NA servers when playing ff14 is that's any reference.
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Jan 7, 2016 02:40
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Daynab posted:How big was the file download for the beta? just wondering because I kind of have a limited quota. IIRC it was a 12GB download that expanded into a 35-40GB installation. They are compression wizards.
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Jan 7, 2016 05:42
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Is there anything pvp related other than highly competitive 1v1 and 3v3 tag team fight clubs? The game looks really cool by the way.
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Jan 7, 2016 06:28
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Usenet Magic-User posted:Is there anything pvp related other than highly competitive 1v1 and 3v3 tag team fight clubs? The game looks really cool by the way. There's open world PvP centered around dailies. Just stroll into your faction's camp sitting on the border of one several PvP subzones and you'll have daily quests to that has you harassing the other faction's NPCs and in direct competition for objectives with players on the other side. You also get prestige points for world PvP which are turned in at your faction camp to rank up in PvP as well as for costumes and other goodies.
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Jan 7, 2016 06:34
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I have decided that picking up nerds and slamming them around as Destroyer will be my go to way to have fun in this game. Goodness that feels fun, even at level like 7.
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Jan 7, 2016 07:13
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Eu Goons (or just the other EU Goon) Any opposition with going RED FACTION
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Jan 7, 2016 07:20
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Sounds good lics and I will pry play, looking towards summoner or blade dancer and force master or blade master.
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Jan 7, 2016 07:52
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Ciaphas posted:I have decided that picking up nerds and slamming them around as Destroyer will be my go to way to have fun in this game. Goodness that feels fun, even at level like 7. I got kind of bored with destroyer rather quickly, to be honest. It spices things up a bit when you get the spinning piledriver later, but having so little variety in attacks wears out its welcome.
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Jan 7, 2016 09:18
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Ciaphas posted:I have decided that picking up nerds and slamming them around as Destroyer will be my go to way to have fun in this game. Goodness that feels fun, even at level like 7. You can pick up your allies too and move them around, if they're KOd.
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Jan 7, 2016 11:09
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eh i aint wasting money on a skin or cowboy stuff  the early access thing was a given, i just wanted to see if there were exclusive skins or whatever
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Jan 7, 2016 14:16
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chumbler posted:I got kind of bored with destroyer rather quickly, to be honest. It spices things up a bit when you get the spinning piledriver later, but having so little variety in attacks wears out its welcome. cathead posted:You can pick up your allies too and move them around, if they're KOd. The competing arguments are breaking my brain 
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Jan 7, 2016 16:13
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Ciaphas posted:The competing arguments are breaking my brain I played destroyer to max level in beta. Its a cc monster in dungeons, with the ability to solo break boss cc resistance 2 or even more times depending on how you spec. Choking or lifting dudes provides great bonuses to the party as well, and moving bosses around was relevant in a couple of the 45 dungeons. In PvP, you have this deadly 1-2 punch with rage into anicancel that shreds anyone you successfully land a stun or knockdown on. And you have a lot of those. Actually catching your opponent can be difficult, depending on the matchup. All that being said, the ability to ani-cancel RB/LB properly will make or break your experience with the class. Its critical for dps in both pve and pvp (although pvp is a bit easier since you'll usually be in rage which has a different tempo.)
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Jan 7, 2016 16:26
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I realized about the animation cancelling thing, yeah. My ability to actually do so is sporadic at best, but I choose to blame that on the fact that I'm playing on the Taiwan servers from western America  I hope success isn't too ping dependent, for Destroyer or otherwise. The ping-reliance of Ninja in FFXIV killed that class stone dead for me, for example.
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Jan 7, 2016 16:31
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mightygerm posted:All that being said, the ability to ani-cancel RB/LB properly will make or break your experience with the class. Its critical for dps in both pve and pvp (although pvp is a bit easier since you'll usually be in rage which has a different tempo.) This is the part which keeps making me think twice about it being my first class. I know I can learn to execute the canceling just fine, but if past experiences in other games are any indicator I will not enjoy it. So, I am thinking about starting with BM or BD instead. Still not sure though. At the same time, it isn't like I cannot just try them all and decide which one to stick with later. Speaking of which, how many character slots do we get?
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Jan 7, 2016 17:01
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Xavier434 posted:This is the part which keeps making me think twice about it being my first class. I know I can learn to execute the canceling just fine, but if past experiences in other games are any indicator I will not enjoy it. So, I am thinking about starting with BM or BD instead. Still not sure though. At the same time, it isn't like I cannot just try them all and decide which one to stick with later. Speaking of which, how many character slots do we get? F2P / Initiate Pack owners - 2 Characters Disciple Pack owners - 4 Characters Master Pack owners - 7 Characters You can purchase more slots in-game but I don't know the price.
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Jan 7, 2016 17:49
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Download link will go up on Friday apparently.
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Jan 7, 2016 19:41
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