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Wish they had an office downtown so I can get pricked during lunch to find out why I have Lucifer's face.
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Mnemosyne posted:I only asked because I recall that you're adopted. I don't know what you know about your bio family, but from this, it looks like your father was Mexican. Native American (Northern) is a possibility, but I think that given that combo of Native / Iberian / Middle Eastern, I think Mexican fits pretty perfectly. We can tell that it's only one parent, because the Native / Middle Eastern / African segments all show up non-overlapping. Which means that one chromosome of each pair is blue (European) and one chromosome is orange / red / purple (non-Euro), so one parent is pretty much all white/Euro and the other parent is not. Mnemosyne, how did you learn how to decipher this data (so I can learn too)? My dad and I both have done the 23andme test -- I have really good genealogical information on my mother's side of the family, but my dad knows next to nothing about his family. He was born in northeastern Italy (in an area bordered by Austria and Slovenia), and his parents were from the same area, but beyond that is all a mystery. Here are our results: Dad  Me  What's very curious to me is that my results say I have a higher percentage of Balkan ancestry than my dad, and our chromosomal pattern doesn't match perfectly (I have it in places he doesn't). Dad  Me  It makes sense for my dad to have it -- he and his family are from an area right next to the Balkans. But my mom was 50% Sicilian (genealogy records are good back to the 1700s), 25% Irish (records are good back to the 1700s), and 25% German (records are good back to the 1400s). There should not be any Balkan DNA from her side of the family. Any thoughts? It makes sense for me to have a little Middle Eastern/North African DNA that my dad doesn't have, because of my maternal Sicilian heritage. Funny that my East Asian DNA isn't on the same chromosome as my dad's -- his region of Italy was invaded by Atilla the Hun in 452 AD, so that's probably why he has it, but mine must come from some other distant relative on my mom's side. Maybe it's the same story with the Balkan DNA. Funny that my dad has significant French/German and British/Irish DNA -- I wonder if that's because his region of Italy was also home to the Celts before the Roman Empire, or since he has so much of it, there were more recent ancestors from those areas? On that note, is the fact that I have such a tiny percentage of Ashkenazi Jewish DNA indicative that it came from an ancestor in the long, long past? Rabbit Hill fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jan 7, 2016 |
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VendaGoat posted:I did and now I am being indicted on over 200 cold cases When you started the VendaGoat campaign for wife loving a while back, did no-one suggest you should maybe stick to your own wife?
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Volcott posted:So 23 and me used to tell you what diseases you might get, but doesn't anymore? Is there anyone who still gives you that sort of information? I'm kinda curious. They removed it because of the FDA, but they've added a lot back now. I was grandfathered in since I bought the kit without health reports for $99, but now they're charging $199. A service called Promethease will take your raw 23andMe data and give you a detailed health report.
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You suckers should have just waited a few more years for the next gen sequencing techs to trickle out to trivial things like this. You could actually get your whole genome done.
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http://www.nature.com/news/regulation-the-fda-is-overcautious-on-consumer-genomics-1.14527 http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/23andme-is-terrifying-but-not-for-reasons-fda/ Don't give those jews your genome. They're gonna own & datamine on it
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Saga posted:When you started the VendaGoat campaign for wife loving a while back, did no-one suggest you should maybe stick to your own wife? It was not covered in the pamphlet I received, no. Did I do wrong?
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Yeah it told me my dog is related to ur mom op
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Rabbit Hill posted:Mnemosyne, how did you learn how to decipher this data (so I can learn too)? I just learned by reading and doing. The 23andMe forums have been the best place to learn, for the most part, but now that they're migrating to a new site, I don't know if that will continue, because so many of the old-timers are mad about the changes. Looking at the results you posted, your account has already been moved over to the new site. Anyway, read the posts, learn to recognize which of them actually knows what they're talking about and who is just talking out of their butts. Some people there have blogs, and those are useful too. (Warning, many of these blogs are ugly as sin) Blaine Bettinger (http://thegeneticgenealogist.com), CeCe Moore (http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com ), Shannon Christmas (http://throughthetreesblog.tumblr.com), Roberta Estes (http://dna-explained.com), Kitty Cooper (http://blog.kittycooper.com) and Kelly Wheaton (https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/beginners-guide-to-genetic-genealogy). Mostly it's been over the years through group efforts on the 23andMe forums. When I first tested 6 years ago, the product was still pretty new and almost none of us knew what we were doing. But people would post threads, asking a question, and a few people would look at it and make some guesses. Then others, myself included would say "Ok, how can we test this? How can we figure out if that's the right answer or not?" and we'd pool our resources and efforts to gather data that could help us figure it out. It's an ongoing process and we're all learning together. So is traditional paper genealogy not an option for your dad's side? It looks like you're familiar with researching, and I was under the impression that Italy had pretty decent records. I admit that I don't have any personal experience with Italian genealogy or records though, that's just off the top of my head. My best friend tested, as did her mother. The mother is 1/2 pure Italian as her mother was born in Italy. I know from dealing with her results that there aren't a ton of Italians represented in the database in general, and that her Italian matches were very low. That means I don't have a lot of pure Italian results to look at for comparison to see what's normal for Italians. I just pulled up the 1/2 Italian mother to look at her again. She actually shows about 10% Balkan, but since her father is an American mutt, I can't rule out that that's coming from his side. Anyway, your mother must have some DNA that's reading as Balkan, because if you look at Chromosome 6, you've got both copies of Chromosome 6 coming up as Balkan, and the region overlaps. You have one copy of each from each parent, so if both copies are showing Balkan, then it definitely came from your mother. Additionally, one of your X chromosomes is showing entirely Balkan. Your Dad's isn't, so that's not the X you got from him. So that's from your mom too. Because the X chromosome has specific inheritance patterns (always passes from mother to child regardless of gender of child, only passes from father to daughter, not to sons), you can sometimes tell a lot from the X. There are charts here that show the pattern of X chromosome inheritance (only the people colored in on the chart donate to your X chromosome): http://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2008/12/21/unlocking-the-genealogical-secrets-of-the-x-chromosome/ I personally download these and fill them in with my pedigree (only the colored blocks) so I can see which of my ancestors gave me my X chromosome. Then when I'm working with DNA matches who match me on the X, I know which ancestors are possible and which are not. I would assume that your mother's Balkan DNA is via one of her German ancestors. If you fill in that X chart for her, you should be able to see if her German ancestry falls on that X path. If you look at Europe on a map, Munich, Germany is only about 300 miles away from Slovenia, which is considered "Balkan." Three hundred miles isn't very far at all, so I would have to guess that some of that "Balkan" DNA is found around Germany. As Americans, we put a lot of emphasis on current political borders, which screws us up a lot. I think sometimes it's easier to put in perspective when you compare it to the United States; the distance between Germany and Slovenia is about as far as the distance from New York city to Maine. Los Angeles and San Francisco are farther apart than that. Another thing that obviously comes into play is that this is all still in its infancy. As more and more people get tested, we'll be able to refine our definitions of which DNA comes from which regions. I've also never seen the DNA of someone from Sicily (nor do I know really anything about Sicilian history), so it's also possible that Balkan shows up from that side of her ancestry? Now I'm going to have to go see if I can find some Ancestry comps from Sicilians because I'm curious.
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Mnemosyne, you have a wonderful way of explaining things.
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RaceBannon posted:Mnemosyne, you have a wonderful way of explaining things. This is Something Awful, so I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not. But if it's not, then thanks! EDIT: You seem to know what you're talking about with the DNA stuff; do you ever post over at 23andMe? Mnemosyne fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Wait let me try again. As a joke I peed in the sample kit, turns out I'm related to ur moms mouth
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I've learned more about DNA from this thread than I did in high school biology, that's for sure.
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Mnemosyne posted:<good words> My mom has passed away, but she had four brothers and I've mentioned to one of them that it would be great if he or the others could get their DNA tested so we could fill in the data gaps. Unfortunately, even with the holiday promotion (that ends today), the cost wasn't something he wanted to pay. I'll try to persuade my uncles to pool their money or save the money myself for them to do it. I've used Promethease and Livewello.com to investigate my health data, and yesterday Livewello released a report on Endometrial Cancer and Hormone Replacement Therapy -- exactly what my mom died of and why -- but apparently my DNA data doesn't include the relevant SNPs to test. I'm (not literally, I hope  ) dying to know if I carry the genes that put me at risk for this.For Livewello, It's $19.95 to upload your 23andme raw DNA data, and for that they give you 27 health reports for free, and then you can subscribe (2-week free trial) to get more of their reports as well as the ability to run your own. Custom gene variance reports just look at your results for your phenotypes of the genes you've manually selected (or another user has manually selected). The site is intended for physicians to use, and custom variance reports do not come with any kind of interpretation or analysis. They provide these reports for free: quote:1. Nexium, acid reflux disease and CYP2C19 drugs  Here are my results for a custom report another user has created, for Phenylketonuria (PKU), which I know I don't have: 
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it turns out im a direct descendant of jesus so i guess now i have to go on a watered down indiana jones adventure that doesnt get a sequel movie
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Jan 8, 2016 16:53
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it said i inherited the third chromosome from gbs
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Drunkboxer posted:You suckers should have just waited a few more years for the next gen sequencing techs to trickle out to trivial things like this. You could actually get your whole genome done. i was part of a research project on the genetics of bisexuality, so i didn't have a choice i work in a sequencing core though and i could easily run illumina/ion torrent on my full genome any time
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Gravitee posted:For the people who've done the testing, aren't you concerned with privacy and your DNA results being sold for profit? lol. for what? targeted advertising? I cant imagine DNA results being sold for anything other than something potentially beneficial to humankind, so no. In fact, I hope they sell it. poo poo if they said the results would be used for research that's more of an incentive to do it.
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I'm not planning on committing any murders and if I was I guess I should make sure to clean up my DNA better before leaving the scene of the crime. Pretty sure my DNA is already in some database from when I was a kid and they did that poo poo in my town for parents to get their kids swabbed in case they get kidnapped or something.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:Pretty sure my DNA is already in some database from when I was a kid and they did that poo poo in my town for parents to get their kids swabbed in case they get kidnapped or something. ya that's what it was lol govt definitely isn't cultivating a gay army in your image in secret
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:I'm not planning on committing any murders and if I was I guess I should make sure to clean up my DNA better before leaving the scene of the crime. When I was a youngin, they did fingerprinting for the same reason.
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Yeah II'm worried about all that criminal profiling too but I'm pretty sure the army catalogs every soldier's DNA too so I'm already hosed.
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I'm not concerned about sharing my DNA results with supposedly existent data-mining Jews because I don't believe there is any way to effectively target people with ads based on their genetic profile. If there were I'd join up with them.
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my brother did; the spanish, irish and english ancestery was expected but nordic wasn't. apparently one of my ancestors was raped by a viking.
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I'm not concerned about sharing my DNA results with supposedly existent data-mining Jews because I don't believe there is any way to effectively target people with ads based on their genetic profile. If there were I'd join up with them. Says here you are genetically predisposed to heartburn, here's an ad for Nexium.
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results say ur polish here's a diaper ad am iright pollack jokes are back and here 2 stay
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EngineerSean posted:Says here you are genetically predisposed to heartburn, here's an ad for Nexium. Too late illjewminati, I'm already on nexium!
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:lol. for what? targeted advertising? what's cool is when you have to buy genome data a lot less research gets done because lol if you think funding is easy to get also it biases things even harder to big labs with big names and big funding regardless of how good or novel their actual output is
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I'm not concerned about sharing my DNA results with supposedly existent data-mining Jews because I don't believe there is any way to effectively target people with ads based on their genetic profile. If there were I'd join up with them. you're probably wrong about this given the current state of things. you would definitely be wrong about this in the future. your genome is a code that says a shitton about you and one of these days they'll be able to make very useful generalizations as well as specificalizations about a person based on it.
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kindermord posted:you're probably wrong about this given the current state of things. you would definitely be wrong about this in the future. your genome is a code that says a shitton about you and one of these days they'll be able to make very useful generalizations as well as specificalizations about a person based on it. *some nerd in a lab coat looks at a seventy five page breakdown of a woman's genetics* Oh yah, what a filthy loving whore you are, slut. 
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kindermord posted:you're probably wrong about this given the current state of things. you would definitely be wrong about this in the future. your genome is a code that says a shitton about you and one of these days they'll be able to make very useful generalizations as well as specificalizations about a person based on it. I dare you to look at somebody's genetic code and tell me what their favorite gum is.
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VendaGoat posted:*some nerd in a lab coat looks at a seventy five page breakdown of a woman's genetics* *sends adds for nonoxynol 9 and valtrex*
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I dare you to look at somebody's genetic code and tell me what their favorite gum is. hardcore
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Orkin Mang posted:hardcore All doublemint niggas is hard niggas
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I dare you to look at somebody's genetic code and tell me what their favorite gum is. i don't need a code to tell me that everybody's favorite gum should be extra classic bubble 
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kindermord posted:i don't need a code to tell me that everybody's favorite gum should be extra classic bubble You make eugenics look like a good idea bubblegum is gay, in the bad way not the dancing around in speedos on parade floats and suckling eachother's rotten peckers way, real bad I mean
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Nigmaetcetera posted:I'm not concerned about sharing my DNA results with supposedly existent data-mining Jews because I don't believe there is any way to effectively target people with ads based on their genetic profile. If there were I'd join up with them. In 40 years I'll be loving an immaculate VR simulacra of you with XX instead of XY thanks to the DNA you graciously provided to 23andme, which they'll sell off to a middleware company that provides templates to futureporn game developers
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Beef Turret posted:In 40 years I'll be loving an immaculate VR simulacra of you with XX instead of XY thanks to the DNA you graciously provided to 23andme, which they'll sell off to a middleware company that provides templates to futureporn game developers Lol why would that bother anyone? Edit: lol the future-Jews will certainly love sodomizing future-cyber-female me. That doesn't sound absurd or stupid at all. Nigmaetcetera fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jan 8, 2016 |
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Nigmaetcetera posted:All doublemint niggas is hard niggas genetic determinism is a bit passe now tho hehehehe. they thought everything was in the jeans but their not
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Lol why would that bother anyone? Idk... ask someone with a social life.
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