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I was trying to think of movies that could be considered "Classics" that were made in the last ten years and I was having trouble. Of course the word "classic" has many connotations and definitions. When I say the word I mean either a) influential to the point of starting, or signalling the start of, a new movement or style of filmmaking (think Godard's Breathless and French New Wave), or b) movies that are still being talked about and compared with very recent films. I can't really find a movie that fits the former definition - possibly Avatar from a technical standpoint. For the latter I might say No Country for Old Men but that seems like kind of a stretch. Can anyone here think of and suggest movies made around or after kalel fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Children of Men.
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Jan 4, 2016 19:58
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The first film that comes to mind for your second definition is There Will Be Blood. It gets talked about quite a bit. Drive fits the requirements as well.
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Jan 4, 2016 20:09
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Using 2000 as a handy cut-off, I'm going to throw out the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Especially the first film, which IMO completely knocked it out of the park. Any big fantasy movies that follow are going to be compared to it.
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Jan 4, 2016 20:17
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Children of Men. That is definitely what came to mind looking over my big list of movies in this stretch, as far as something that feels slated to endure. I think it's still the most emotional and organic work of Lubezki's career and I look forward to years of crossing my arms and praising it over Gravity, Tree of Life, and Birdman.
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Jan 4, 2016 20:17
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I'd go with Boyhood, The Tree of Life, A Separation, and Synecdoche, New York that fits that bill. I also thought of both There Will Be Blood and No Country for Old Men. Perhaps something like Once with it's unique indie-musical style - or Guy Maddin's docu-fantasia My Winnipeg?
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Jan 4, 2016 20:19
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The most recent "classics" I've seen, that I believe we'll be talking about 20+ years from now, are Under the Skin and Mad Max: Fury Road. I agree with There Will Be Blood but I love everything P.T. Anderson has done and I think The Master is another film that will only get more well-known and popular as time goes by. If for nothing else it has two of the all-time greatest performances in film, and maybe Hoffman's last great role.
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Jan 4, 2016 20:23
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It's hard to identify a new filmmaking style as it emerges, but I'd say that Upstream Color is tremendously innovative in its structure. There's a lot of stylistic overlap between that film and Spring Breakers, and even Only God Forgives. A straightforward plot is not an important part of any of those films even though they all have complete narrative arcs.
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Jan 4, 2016 20:32
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sean10mm posted:Using 2000 as a handy cut-off, I'm going to throw out the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Especially the first film, which IMO completely knocked it out of the park. Any big fantasy movies that follow are going to be compared to it. My cutoff of 2005 was kind of arbitrary, really what I'm going for is a movie that could be considered contemporary; a product of this time in cinematic history rather than any previous era. The emphasis is on modern rather than "classic." my inner monologue posted:little do these goons know that I will be mining this thread to build my watchlist *rubbing hands together* hehehe *twirling mustache*
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A little older than 2005 but The Royal Tenenbaums was a blueprint for the indie wave in the 2000s, and Hannah Takes The Stairs was one of the big films of the mumblecore movement that gave way to Lena Dunham.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:A little older than 2005 but The Royal Tenenbaums was a blueprint for the indie wave in the 2000s. I'd say it wasn't that film specifically, more Anderson's style in general that became popular to mimic during that time. But yea Wes Anderson is a director who's style has been a lot more influential than most of the general public realizes, and he will eventually get even more credit for that than he is now.
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Jan 4, 2016 20:50
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:It's hard to identify a new filmmaking style as it emerges, but I'd say that Upstream Color is tremendously innovative in its structure. There's a lot of stylistic overlap between that film and Spring Breakers, and even Only God Forgives. A straightforward plot is not an important part of any of those films even though they all have complete narrative arcs. My hope is that someday Only God Forgives is reevaluated. It's a movie that I found thoroughly engaging and beautiful but it got trashed. This video made me appreciate it even more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOPZURubLyU
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Jan 4, 2016 21:00
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Magic Hate Ball posted:The Royal Tenenbaums This, definitely
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:My hope is that someday Only God Forgives is reevaluated. It's a movie that I found thoroughly engaging and beautiful but it got trashed. Right there with ya bud, I thought it was wonderful. I also didn't find it nearly as odd as most people did from a plot and pacing point.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:My hope is that someday Only God Forgives is reevaluated. It's a movie that I found thoroughly engaging and beautiful but it got trashed. e: I should add that Beyond the Black Rainbow is another example of this style of filmmaking, except I think that one's pretty much vanished from cultural memory. Holy Motors is another one. Terrorist Fistbump fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Jan 4, 2016 21:18
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It's hard to tell what'll last and what won't - if you wanted to talk about what was impacting culture now I'd suggest Avengers, Paranormal Activity, or Hunger Games.
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Jan 4, 2016 21:24
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It's hard to tell what'll last and what won't - if you wanted to talk about what was impacting culture now I'd suggest Avengers, Paranormal Activity, or Hunger Games. the first X-Men instead of Avengers, first of the new-wave big budget superhero movies Blair Witch Project instead of Paranormal Activity, first of the low budget shakey-cam big release horror films genre Lord of the Rings (or maybe Harry Potter) instead of Hunger Games, made big budget multi-film fantasy/young adult series possible
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:Holy Motors is another one. I'll echo this - great great film and hard to shake once it's over. And I just watched Only God Forgives a couple days ago - I'll have to give that video a watch once I'm outa work, because I didn't care much for it at all. Beautiful, but meaningless and filled with people I did not care about.
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Chadzok posted:Blair Witch Project instead of Paranormal Activity, The last broadcast did it first, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Broadcast_(film). Don't watch it expecting the most. Oh gently caress and Cannibal Holocast did it even better, and it was banned and they had to actually find all the actors out of hiding to prove the movie wasn't real. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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X-Men is like the Black Christmas to Avenger's Halloween. Avengers was the true beginning of the massive, all encompassing, never ending franchise that's become the crown jewel kind of property every single studio is now looking for. For that reason you have to say that it should be remembered, even if you don't like the trend that it started. Probably the biggest change its brought about is the decline of the movie-star, whereas in the past successful franchises had always depended so heavily on the actors playing the important roles. Think Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, various action series like Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. Even James Bond was dependent on the actor playing the role to a large degree, the franchise got itself into trouble a few times by casting the wrong guy. But now the studios realize that if the property is one the audience cares about, the actor barely matters. There will be a new Thor and Captain America and Iron Man and nobody will give a poo poo because they're wearing the same costume.
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I feel like Drive is probably gonna stick around for a while.
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Basebf555 posted:Probably the biggest change its brought about is the decline of the movie-star, whereas in the past successful franchises had always depended so heavily on the actors playing the important roles. Think Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, various action series like Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. Even James Bond was dependent on the actor playing the role to a large degree, the franchise got itself into trouble a few times by casting the wrong guy.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:They haven't replaced any of the main characters yet, and they threw a truckload of money at RDJ to delay him leaving. They're scared but they'll see when they do it that nobody cares. They needed talent like RDJ to kick things off and build confidence in the franchise but the momentum is unstoppable at this point.
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Basebf555 posted:X-Men is like the Black Christmas to Avenger's Halloween. Avengers was the true beginning of the massive, all encompassing, never ending franchise that's become the crown jewel kind of property every single studio is now looking for. For that reason you have to say that it should be remembered, even if you don't like the trend that it started. Probably the biggest change its brought about is the decline of the movie-star, whereas in the past successful franchises had always depended so heavily on the actors playing the important roles. Think Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters, various action series like Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. Even James Bond was dependent on the actor playing the role to a large degree, the franchise got itself into trouble a few times by casting the wrong guy. I'm not sure if I agree with you about the decline of the movie star. You do make a good point that the actors are less important, since what's being sold with these franchise blockbusters is "characters being played by actors" rather than "actors portraying characters." But imagine if Marvel decided to replace Robert Downey Jr. or Chris Evans in the upcoming Infinity Wars movies. The only way Marvel (Disney) wouldn't take any heat is if the actors died. I think it's important, in this new age of the franchise film, to consider "continuities" instead of individual films. In that sense it would be a cardinal sin in the current continuity to replace RDJ or Chris Evans in their Avenger roles. When Heath Ledger died, rather than recast the Joker, Nolan wrote the character out of the script of the third film in his Batman trilogy. But now, in this new continuity of DC properties, it's okay to recast the Batman. I think people like to see different actors' takes on their favorite superheroes, rather than just the heroes themselves. kalel fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jan 4, 2016 |
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Jan 4, 2016 22:20
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SciFiDownBeat posted:I'm not sure if I agree with you about the decline of the movie star. You do make a good point that the actors are less important, since what's being sold with these franchise blockbusters is "characters being played by actors" rather than "actors portraying characters." But imagine if Marvel decided to replace Robert Downey Jr. or Chris Evans in the upcoming Infinity Wars movies. The only way Marvel (Disney) wouldn't take any heat is if the actors died. They have to do it in a way that doesn't insult the audience, sure, but its going to be very difficult to insult them to the point where the box office results are effected. But yea if randomly Tony Stark was played by Brad Pitt in the next movie people would be pissed. To be more specific its the costumes that people want, so they'll kill off Steve Rogers and some new guy like Bucky will slide right in to the costume, then one movie later he's just Captain American and nobody even cares anymore.
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The Avengers is only innovative from a business and marketing perspective, and it certainly won't be compared favorably with new films in the future. A contemporary film that captured the public's imagination the same way and was one for the ages is Inception. You don't hear too much about it these days, but I think it's going to be rediscovered in a few years after the hype burnout wears off.
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I'm honestly a bit stunned that no one's mentioned The Dark Knight so far (as of my typing this), and I'm not even the movie's biggest fan. Really, just about any big hit movie is going to be a 'classic' given enough time. I'd say some movies that already sort of 'feel' classic from what I can see include: The Ring (allowing some wiggle-room with the time frame) No Country For Old Men The Incredibles Paranormal Activity Children of Men The Avengers Spiderman 2 Iron Man Casino Royale (ah, hell, every Bond flick is going to be a classic no matter what, but this and Skyfall especially) Gravity Frozen The Room
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If documentaries can end up modern classics, then absolutely The Act of Killing. It's not every movie where you see a real person realize for the first time that they are a mass-murdering monster and if there is a Hell they're going to burn there forever. It's also so amazing because you really have no idea it's coming, the dude is just an unrepentant killer up until that moment when the scales fall away and he realizes yes, I was killing people, and yes, they were just like me and yes, there is no way to ever make this right or atone for my crimes. Possibly the most powerful and memorable thing I've ever seen in a film. If you haven't seen it you should make it a priority IMO.
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I think Hunger is easily a classic, but it doesn't really fit into either of your criteria. It's not very influential, and not well known, but it's such an incredibly emotional and well made film that I don't think I could call it anything but a classic. Whiplash is probably going to be referenced/called upon for years to come, though.
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JonathonSpectre posted:If documentaries can end up modern classics, then absolutely The Act of Killing. I had never seen anything like it before and I probably never will again. Echoing No Country for Old Men and Children of Men. I think Mad Max: Fury Road and The Raid: Redemption are going to define action films for a long time.
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I feel like Refn is making movies specifically for me and I love absolutely everything the dude has done, but I feel like Drive's gonna be the one that sticks out the most. It's just so perfect.Terrorist Fistbump posted:e: I should add that Beyond the Black Rainbow is another example of this style of filmmaking, except I think that one's pretty much vanished from cultural memory. Holy Motors is another one. They both went over pretty well.
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Beyond the Black Rainbow is dope as heck. I really like the visual style.
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I hope people begin to look back on Shaun of The Dead as the correct way to direct a comedy movie.GonSmithe posted:I think Hunger is easily a classic, but it doesn't really fit into either of your criteria. It's not very influential, and not well known, but it's such an incredibly emotional and well made film that I don't think I could call it anything but a classic. Hunger and Shame might not but 12 Years a Slave most certainly will.
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Lord Lambeth posted:I hope people begin to look back on Shaun of The Dead as the correct way to direct a comedy movie. That movie loving kills me every time.
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Memories of Murder, hands down.
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In terms of influence rather than personal merit, Garden State and Napoleon Dynamite were both bellwethers for about a decade worth of Indy films.
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lizardman posted:Really, just about any big hit movie is going to be a 'classic' given enough time. I'd say some movies that already sort of 'feel' classic from what I can see include: Really? Every Bond flick? Even Octopussy? Even Tomorrow Never Dies? Even Spectre? I wouldn't say any of those films were influential to the medium or memorable besides being a "Bond" movie.
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Lord Lambeth posted:I hope people begin to look back on Shaun of The Dead as the correct way to direct a comedy movie. Absolutely, and if you want to throw influence in there: 40 Year Old Virgin absolutely revolutionized raunchy comedies. Terrorist Fistbump posted:e: I should add that Beyond the Black Rainbow is another example of this style of filmmaking, except I think that one's pretty much vanished from cultural memory. I watch BTBR every once in a while because I love it so much.
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The Cabin in the Woods is pretty epochal, and I feel like the people who made it should be a committee you have to stand in front of before making another horror movie and justify your film's existence before you can leave pre-pro.
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The Cabin In The Woods would've been epochal twenty-five years ago.
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