Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Millions of Crows posted:

I hate people and things that are stupid. "Cis" is stupid. So stupid.

i believe that's the core of her thesis, forums poster Millions of Crows! it's nice when people find common ground

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

The Dregs
Dec 29, 2005

MY TREEEEEEEE!
Wait. Is R.A.Salvatore gay? Because that's all I read.

Incorrect Username
Feb 21, 2011
what if u really wanted to read a certain book but didn't because an idiot on the inernet told you not to lmao

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT

The Dregs posted:

Wait. Is R.A.Salvatore gay? Because that's all I read.

Nobody who writes that many books about elves can be straight

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

what if you read white cis male authors (whisms for short) but then think long and turgid about them being taken from behind by strong men

Vaginal Vagrant
Jan 12, 2007

by R. Guyovich

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

Nobody who writes that many books about elves can be straight

It's not gay to gently caress elves

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Lunchmeat Larry posted:

it's extremely good that leftists now campaign for total societal segregation on grounds of race and sexuality

don't forget parents' profession! #eatherich

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Applewhite posted:

I know "X are the real racists" gets thrown around a lot, but is certainly seems like people who judge literature based on the skin color of the author, rather than the book's content are, literally, the real racists.

I don't know if you're serious about this, but I agree. I don't think this woman actually wants equality, I think she wants to hit back at the ones she thinks have hurt her. On the other hand she might just be all wrapped up in her own poo poo and no one will care, but here we are

oh no computer
May 27, 2003

is jesus white, straight and/or cis and if so am I still allowed to read the bible?

Crash_N_Burn
Apr 19, 2014

The Dregs posted:

Wait. Is R.A.Salvatore gay? Because that's all I read.

Same but R.L. Stine

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind

Millions of Crows posted:

I avoid reading anything by human being assholes that use the term Cis. Virtually everything written before 2010 is viable.
I'm bisexual. I've recieved plenty of abuse for that, but never started hating people for being straight/normal. I hate people and things that are stupid. "Cis" is stupid. So stupid.
Eat poo poo OP.
I dunno on principle it's a fine word and an appropriate use of the prefix. Cisalpine, translunar and cislunar, transgender and cisgender. It's useful to have a word that means 'not transgender' in the context of discussing transsexuality.

What's stupid is to take it outside that context and attempt to somehow define the merit of people by whether they're 'cis'. It's kinda how a psychological trigger is a real and useful term that Tumblr idiots co-opted and started using in entirely inappropriate contexts.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Neil Gaiman is loving gay so he's probably ok

Knuckle Sammich
May 4, 2009
"Good day shopkeeper. A book on the battle of Stalingrad please, preferably written by a man who enjoys having his anus penetrated."

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

Professor Shark posted:

I don't know if you're serious about this, but I agree. I don't think this woman actually wants equality, I think she wants to hit back at the ones she thinks have hurt her. On the other hand she might just be all wrapped up in her own poo poo and no one will care, but here we are
Lol, if you read the article the point, while loving dumb, was that there's shitloads of people writing crap and that maybe, just maybe, people could go out and find poo poo that wasn't written by that one specific group of people and see that whoah, its a big world out there, even if it doesn't look it from your local Barnes and Nobles or wherever the gently caress it is yanks get books.

How can you motherfuckers be so willfully dense as to not understand such a simple point it beyond me really.

Anyway I did this challenge for 3 months and a week as a laugh because I was mostly reading poo poo by Chinese peeps dead a couple of centuries as well as honky ladies, before China Mieville turned out to be a straight cis honky devil (WTF? With that name??) and I'd already got the book so welp. Did read through a shitload of good SciFi/Fantasy tho as well as shitloads of wacky Chinese writs.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

hemophilia posted:

Sorry, frank herbert is my litmus test for good literature.

He wrote about sand wizard

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Lol, if you read the article the point, while loving dumb, was that there's shitloads of people writing crap and that maybe, just maybe, people could go out and find poo poo that wasn't written by that one specific group of people and see that whoah, its a big world out there, even if it doesn't look it from your local Barnes and Nobles or wherever the gently caress it is yanks get books.

How can you motherfuckers be so willfully dense as to not understand such a simple point it beyond me really.

Anyway I did this challenge for 3 months and a week as a laugh because I was mostly reading poo poo by Chinese peeps dead a couple of centuries as well as honky ladies, before China Mieville turned out to be a straight cis honky devil (WTF? With that name??) and I'd already got the book so welp. Did read through a shitload of good SciFi/Fantasy tho as well as shitloads of wacky Chinese writs.

Yeah I should read more books written by women because their brains are different and they're not good at math so it's like books written by aliens lol

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Knuckle Sammich posted:

"Good day shopkeeper. A book on the battle of Stalingrad please, preferably written by a man who enjoys having his anus penetrated."

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Sheep-Goats posted:

He wrote about sand wizard

Yeah its really good.

H.H
Oct 24, 2006

August is the Cruelest Month

Strategic Tea posted:

don't forget parents' profession! #eatherich

This was already a thing since the 20s in a small european country.

In fact, in order to get a good job or a decent education you often had to fake documents proving your parents had low-paying jobs.

radical leftist ideas taken to their logical conclusion.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Deceitful Penguin posted:

Lol, if you read the article the point, while loving dumb, was that there's shitloads of people writing crap and that maybe, just maybe, people could go out and find poo poo that wasn't written by that one specific group of people and see that whoah, its a big world out there, even if it doesn't look it from your local Barnes and Nobles or wherever the gently caress it is yanks get books.

How can you motherfuckers be so willfully dense as to not understand such a simple point it beyond me really.

No I didn't read that article but I also read authors from a variety of sexes, races, and ages. Your posting makes you sound like a poo poo, though! :thumbsup:

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Groovelord Neato posted:

how come she has straight white man umberto eco on her list.

Take your pick:

1)He has an ethnic sounding name and the person making the list is an idiot

2)Italians aren't white

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

Elukka posted:

It's useful to have a word that means 'not transgender' in the context of discussing transsexuality.

you mean in addition to the word normal?

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Nanomashoes posted:

Take your pick:

1)He has an ethnic sounding name and the person making the list is an idiot

2)Italians aren't white

Italians are white. So #1. She's a loving dumbass. Like all Tumblr-activist dumbshits.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot
i'm only going to read Rudyard Kipling in 2016

Roy
Sep 24, 2007

Nanomashoes posted:

2)Italians aren't white

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Elukka posted:

I dunno on principle it's a fine word and an appropriate use of the prefix. Cisalpine, translunar and cislunar, transgender and cisgender. It's useful to have a word that means 'not transgender' in the context of discussing transsexuality.

you could just say "male" and most everyone realizes you mean somebody born with a penis

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Gobblecoque posted:



haha just noticed the dr. who shirt ofc
I wonder how many fake black people are there on that site

E: I wonder what color lipstick I should put on to make myself look like a real black person. I bet it's black.

a hole-y ghost fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 9, 2016

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Why is she crossing out neil gaiman. I thought she was okay with gays.

Velkest
Mar 1, 2014

a hole-y ghost posted:

Why is she crossing out neil gaiman. I thought she was okay with gays.

the book's called American Gods, so clearly it is about Jesus (white), George W (texan), Trump (macho(?) ) and guns.
also Neil is not gay, he is gai. it is right there in his name.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

KiteAuraan posted:

Italians are white. So #1. She's a loving dumbass. Like all Tumblr-activist dumbshits.
Well, yeah they are for most of them just Americans and buy into the KKK's definition of "white": white Anglo-saxon protestant and wasp only. Like it's the 60s again.

a hole-y ghost posted:

Why is she crossing out neil gaiman. I thought she was okay with gays.
the anglo saxon protestant part of the previous response.

Also it's a pretty stupidly easy challenge if you are french:
Dumas (black), Verlaine, Rimbaud and Marcel Proust (gays). With Dumas and Proust i have literally two years of reading. And the youngest of the authors died in 1928.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jan 9, 2016

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Toplowtech posted:

No they are just Americans and buy into the KKK's definition of "white": white Anglo-saxon protestant and wasp only.

the anglo saxon protestant part of the previous response.

Also it's a pretty stupidly easy challenge if you are french:
Dumas (black), Verlaine, Rimbaud and Marcel Proust (gays). With Dumas and Proust i have literally two years of reading.
But Dumas has a white people name :downs:

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

a hole-y ghost posted:

But Dumas has a white people name :downs:
Actually Dumas is a mix between "du mas"(also the s is silent you dumbass :rolleyes:) literally "from the house" in southern french and Dûma which is Fang( a gabonese language) for "dignity" because madame dumas was a house slave who had a child with a local white as gently caress(and ultra Voltairian) marquis. So her son was general in the french revolution (and he took his mother name), her grand son arguably one of the greatest french author of all time and her great grand son a member of the french academy.

Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jan 9, 2016

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

a hole-y ghost posted:

Why is she crossing out neil gaiman. I thought she was okay with gays.

I made the exact same observation PLEASE read the thread before posting! This is your only warning !

a hole-y ghost
May 10, 2010

Don Tacorleone posted:

I made the exact same observation PLEASE read the thread before posting! This is your only warning !
oh poo poo :wth:

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Applewhite posted:

I know "X are the real racists" gets thrown around a lot, but is certainly seems like people who judge literature based on the skin color of the author, rather than the book's content are, literally, the real racists.

Professor Shark posted:

I don't know if you're serious about this, but I agree. I don't think this woman actually wants equality, I think she wants to hit back at the ones she thinks have hurt her. On the other hand she might just be all wrapped up in her own poo poo and no one will care, but here we are

while i don't necessarily agree w this person's personal literary program, i don't think she's excluding these authors as some kind of attack against them but because she's exhausted with encountering (probably unconscious, unquestioned) assumptions and values that she's had enough of

aka she's sick of hearing the same sad story from the same dumb dorks and wants to hear a sad story that sounds more like hers, which is something most people can empathize with; it's just that some people (the same sad dorks) have monopolized the conversation for the entirety of human history, so they're not lacking a sad story that sounds like theirs because it is the dominant story of every single literary culture up to today

swap a little gay sex here and there, which is not uncommon in a variety of cultures, although it's never been strictly "allowed" in the way it is now (the buttfucker was usually ok, but the buttfucked was as good as a woman); and remember that only white people have ever been white, but dominant men have acted identically in every context; and you can imagine how encountering this literature over and over again throughout ~20 years of school/indoctrination causes you to finally draw a line in the sand, at least to see what it would be like to have noise-cancelling headphones for a particular and ubiquitous noise

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

DerekSmartymans posted:

But the cishet honky mans' opinion is the only one that matters, so challenge denied.

Real talk: I am not a bigot but reading about gay sex holds just about as much interest for me as gsy porn. None. I don't care how gay or female the author is, graphic depictions of gays railing each other kinda grosses me out. If they are just a couple doing interesting protagonist things I'm ok. Juliette McKinna's Thief's Gamble is what I mean.

thankfully graphic depictions of gay sex are not the only alternative to w/m/cishet lit

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT
Is a white gay cis male author okay? How does she find out? Does she look someone's name up on the internet and if their author page isn't just a blank background with 'I'M GAY' in giant font, does she throw the book into the burn pile?

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

birth date, death date, penises physically interacted with

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:

birth date, death date, penises physically interacted with

lol if your church doesn't keep track of this

  • Locked thread