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Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Xoidanor posted:

That conferance lecture scene was super uncomfortable to watch.

I haven't been to a lot of professional conferences before, are things like that normal? It seemed like a bit of a dick move since it pretty much invalidated her presentation

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hepscat
Jan 16, 2005

Avenging Nun
Fiona's not a slut, she's a young woman who never had a childhood grabbing some fun in a pretty loving harsh environment. Even Gus, although technically cheating, gets a pass from me because she never should have married him on an impulse. That was never, ever going to work out. How long can you sit and listen lovingly to your boyfriend softly play his guitar and make moon eyes at you before you want to just throw a vase and scream?

The diner guy made more sense when the actor was Jeffrey Dean Morgan, remember that for one episode? He has that older guy, seen everything and survived kind of vibe but he's also super charismatic and sexy. This guy looks pretty beat up all the time and that's about it.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Aces High posted:

I haven't been to a lot of professional conferences before, are things like that normal? It seemed like a bit of a dick move since it pretty much invalidated her presentation

It was a dick move to interrupt her in the middle of her talk and invalidate her presentation, yeah. She talks about the irony of having her book thesis and talk destroyed by a gay Jesuit, so it's implied she knows him which makes sense as he's another academic in her field.

Usually at conferences there are talks then a few minutes for questions. Academic rivalries can be pretty intense but it's incredibly rude to interrupt and derail someone's presentation. You wait until after they're finished and open the floor to questions from the audience, then bring out the knives.

Edit: like it would be acceptable for a short question to clarify something, but you save the actual meaty questions for afterward.

Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Feb 1, 2016

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Aces High posted:

I haven't been to a lot of professional conferences before, are things like that normal? It seemed like a bit of a dick move since it pretty much invalidated her presentation

Social sciences tends to get quite rap feud-y but usually through long papers rather than straight up heckling.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Pellisworth posted:

It was a dick move to interrupt her in the middle of her talk and invalidate her presentation, yeah. She talks about the irony of having her book thesis and talk destroyed by a gay Jesuit, so it's implied she knows him which makes sense as he's another academic in her field.
I think she said he was a gay Jesuit because he was extremely effeminate and was there from Loyola.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Xoidanor posted:

I'm kinda disappointed that the gentrification plotline is just barely passing by in the house plotline while "haha hipsters" poop jokes gets loads of screentime. :sigh:

Carl plotline still going strong at least.

The couple that bought the house look like a gentrification couple. I am sure that plot line will come back soon. I am going to miss the names yanis had for everyone he hated :(

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

I think Kevin has been the funniest part of the season. Him asking Carl if a lot of the kids had to take it up the rear end to survive in the first episode. His obsession with the twins being tennis stars. His reaction to Yanis burning himself to death. Just good stuff.

Not really digging any of the other storylines. Plus Debbie's story is just uncomfortable at this point.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
To be fair, it's Shameless. At least personally uncomfortable storylines are the name of the game. The show is not at it's best, but ok Shameless is still better then nine out of ten shows in TV.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

I found it a little odd that she didn't know about what seems to be a pretty key discovery in her field of study (and on a subject she's passionate enough about to be lecturing on) that invalidates a bunch of her theories. I was thinking they'd tie that back to her relationship with Lip starting to really affect her work, but I suppose there's still time to do that.

Never you mind
Jun 5, 2010
It was odd that she didn't know how to pronounce Simone de Beauvoir as well (not Boovoir). TV shows are not good at academia.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
It seemed like the guy who interrupted said something to the effect of this journal having just been discovered like the day of or day before her presentation. I thought it was more about how New Media was supplanting peer-reviewed articles and how quickly new information can spread across social media and news sites. It wasn't like she missed some years-old or months-old article, it was something that happened basically the day of her presentation. It was showing the widening informational gap between the old and new generation.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

King Vidiot posted:

It seemed like the guy who interrupted said something to the effect of this journal having just been discovered like the day of or day before her presentation. I thought it was more about how New Media was supplanting peer-reviewed articles and how quickly new information can spread across social media and news sites. It wasn't like she missed some years-old or months-old article, it was something that happened basically the day of her presentation. It was showing the widening informational gap between the old and new generation.

A couple of weeks I think he said.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Did I hear Debbie say she's 18? I got confused because each season seems to be half a year and when the show started she was in middle school or late elementary school.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

King Vidiot posted:

It seemed like the guy who interrupted said something to the effect of this journal having just been discovered like the day of or day before her presentation. I thought it was more about how New Media was supplanting peer-reviewed articles and how quickly new information can spread across social media and news sites. It wasn't like she missed some years-old or months-old article, it was something that happened basically the day of her presentation. It was showing the widening informational gap between the old and new generation.

I don't think that was the point at all. He said they were discovered a few weeks ago and were at Loyola and he was clearly surprised she hadn't read them yet, considering her work. Seems more like the simplistic "she's too caught up in Lip to pay attention to her work right" plot.

Dr Christmas posted:

Did I hear Debbie say she's 18? I got confused because each season seems to be half a year and when the show started she was in middle school or late elementary school.

She was lying so you don't have to think Steve Newlin is an outright pedophile.

misguided rage
Jun 15, 2010

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

nooneofconsequence posted:

I don't think that was the point at all. He said they were discovered a few weeks ago and were at Loyola and he was clearly surprised she hadn't read them yet, considering her work. Seems more like the simplistic "she's too caught up in Lip to pay attention to her work right" plot.
I don't think he was surprised she hadn't read them, I don't think he expected her to know they existed at all. He was just being an rear end in a top hat. It seemed like personal academic rivalry plus a dash of "well my institution has this cool toy :smug:" dickwaving.

Botnit
Jun 12, 2015

Still hating everything to do with Debbie. Her getting the sonogram was super uncomfortable with how low those pants were getting. Reminder she was still 15 for that.

I'm guessing Fiona is headed towards having to keep the baby with her pushing it off. I can't even remember the name of her boyfriend anymore, I know Gus is the husband but can't remember the boyfriend, but he seems to be the best person for her that she's ever dated even though on paper he's by far the worst, especially with the murder reveal. She'll end up loving it up somehow probably but even though I want Jimmy Steve back I'd also like to see her stay with him the rest of the show.

Carl's story and actor are killing it this season. His arc this season started out purely comedic but now it's starting to get some real depth behind it and I hope that's how it keeps going. For too long he was delegated to be the crazy background psycho that never really mattered.

Lip's arc this season seems monotonous. Shame that crazy half Asian girl is gone this season, she was hot as gently caress.

Ian being a firefighter/paramedic is the perfect job for him I think. As soon as last episode had him saving that woman I went yep, that's where you should be.

gently caress Chuckie, his entire character is worthless and I can't believe they brought him back.

I think Kev getting rid of Yannis means Fiona and the rest of them will move into Yannis' old house? I don't know how that's going to play out.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

That would be super contrived.

Zteuer
Nov 8, 2009
Fiona will trick Debbie into having an abortion while keeping her own baby.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

For those of you who watched the UK version, how similar are the shows this season? I was under the impression that US Shameless splintered off from what happened in the UK version a couple seasons ago. Is that true, or am I wrong?

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Botnit posted:



I'm guessing Fiona is headed towards having to keep the baby with her pushing it off. I can't even remember the name of her boyfriend anymore, I know Gus is the husband but can't remember the boyfriend, but he seems to be the best person for her that she's ever dated even though on paper he's by far the worst, especially with the murder reveal.

Think it's more of an manslaughter case. Probably wouldn't be out otherwise.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

teagone posted:

For those of you who watched the UK version, how similar are the shows this season? I was under the impression that US Shameless splintered off from what happened in the UK version a couple seasons ago. Is that true, or am I wrong?

Not at all similar. At this point (really, I think by the fourth season) the UK version was barely about the Gallaghers at all, outside of Frank being a drunken pain in the rear end to everyone in sight. The UK version did a hard pivot and started focusing on a family called the Maguires, who were a feared crime family in the area.

Timby fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Feb 4, 2016

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I tried to watch a few minutes of the UK version and it felt like I was watching a telenovela version of the "real" Shameless. Completely different tonally, very flat cinematography and of course it was hard to get through some of the accents.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

I actually kind of prefer the UK version despite its hideous cinematography, if only because while plenty of bad poo poo happens to people, it isn't just straight-up unrelenting misery porn.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
I read some of the UK summary. Might as well be a different show past parts of Season 1. (Well it is but you get my drift).

Timby posted:

despite its hideous cinematography

What is it with UK and cinematography? Either it's loving mindblowing (Most things by BBC, for example Peaky Blinders) or it is so goddamn lovely that I want to take a nap just by watching it for five minutes. US doesn't seem have this except for random laugh-track sitcoms (which I don't get either, but that is another story).

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Feb 4, 2016

Not Today Satan
Apr 18, 2007

I'm wondering if we're going to be witness to the professor spiraling out of control and possibly trying to do her husband in. Unfortunately, this probably means Lip is going to be at the center of this melt down. Hoping I'm wrong though and they just both decide to part ways and he gets back together with that Asian girl. She was awesome!

Really want to see the next episode already; how the hell are the Gallaghers going to come out of this whole eviction mess?

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




what happened with her again? He started sleeping with the prof, she found out and freaked out and here we are?

Not Today Satan
Apr 18, 2007

Aces High posted:

what happened with her again? He started sleeping with the prof, she found out and freaked out and here we are?

Yeah, that pretty much sums it all up. She started living off campus and got a crazy lesbian roommate who became obsessed with her. She then started hiding out in Lip's dorm and found out he and Helene were together and she punched him. I think that's the last time we saw her.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Hahaha Chucky, noooooooo :smith:

I just want that kid to end up alright

Oh god the second they mentioned child soldiers I knew Carl was going to exploit it, that handgun scene sealed the deal. Carl Army retakes the Gallagher House.

bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Feb 8, 2016

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010
I'm going to reverse George Zimmerman your rear end!

:vince:

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

32MB OF ESRAM posted:

Hahaha Chucky, noooooooo :smith:

I just want that kid to end up alright

Oh god the second they mentioned child soldiers I knew Carl was going to exploit it, that handgun scene sealed the deal. Carl Army retakes the Gallagher House.
Did you watch the after credits scene? You could see the light turn on in his head.

Amanda's a bitch though

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


DarkCrawler posted:

Did you watch the after credits scene? You could see the light turn on in his head.

Amanda's a bitch though

Well, she finally made Lip's storyline interesting so she's not all bad.

Zteuer
Nov 8, 2009
I have to admit, I forgot about Chuckie too.

Crusty Nutsack
Apr 21, 2005

SUCK LASER, COPPERS


Zteuer posted:

I have to admit, I forgot about Chuckie too.

I did too, which made it all that more funny.

Speaking of, where did Sammie go off to? Where is she?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I love how they made Amanda a turbo bitch to compensate and make Lip less of a bad guy for being vague and loving around on her.

Just kidding. It seemed out of left field last season and seems too over the top for her even now. At least it forced that storyline to move forward some and has been amusing both times.

BodyMassageMachine
Nov 24, 2006

:yeah:
:yeah:
:yeah:

Crusty Nutsack posted:

I did too, which made it all that more funny.

Speaking of, where did Sammie go off to? Where is she?

Prison! Got arrested at the same time as Mickey for shooting at him in broad daylight.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Oh god, just hit me that Mickey is going to get out of Prison and find Ian dating a black guy


Specifically dating is what will set him off I bet.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

esperterra posted:

I love how they made Amanda a turbo bitch to compensate and make Lip less of a bad guy for being vague and loving around on her.

Just kidding. It seemed out of left field last season and seems too over the top for her even now. At least it forced that storyline to move forward some and has been amusing both times.

She was a bitch from the start to people she doesn't like for whatever reason.

Krowley
Feb 15, 2008

Amanda did the same thing toward her lesbian roommate before she moved in with Lip

Actually, wasn't that the reason she started staying there in the first place? (aside from Lip's irresistible dong powers)

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Oh I don't mean she wasn't a bitch or Lip should have stayed with her, just that they were both assholes and the way the show has had her deal with it always seemed a bit much even for how weird she already was.

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esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Krowley posted:

Amanda did the same thing toward her lesbian roommate before she moved in with Lip

Actually, wasn't that the reason she started staying there in the first place? (aside from Lip's irresistible dong powers)

She lived with Lip before lesbo roomie iirc. Originally she wad with Lip's old roomie and they started bangin' on the sly and she was always around.

I'm preeetty sure that's how it went, anyway. When she moved off campus it freed up that time to bang Helene.

Sorry for double post. Phone.

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