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Applewhite posted:Unironically support the OP getting probated because it would be hilarious and cool to see "Your bad post killed Alan Rickman, user was probated for 6 hours" on his rap sheet.
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LOTR has points where it just goes on for like 75 pages into ridiculous detail about some bullshit battle no one gives any fucks about. get to the loving point. too much description, not enough exposition. it's the precursor to other, way-too-long fantasy novels like wheel of time and song of ice and fire. just miserable. if you prefer LOTR to harry potter: what the gently caress is wrong with you?
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Jan 14, 2016 19:25
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too much description, not enough exposition.
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Same op, born in 1988 and grew up right when it was popular and all of my friends were freaking out about it. I gave it an honest chance and attempted to read the first book twice, but I'm just not not a fan of JK Rowling's writing. It felt like she really wanted to write like Roald Dahl but was failing
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Beef Turret posted:too much description, not enough exposition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_modes
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Nanomashoes posted:He's entertaining but not a good author, hope this helps. You're entitled to your opinion for sure and maybe you're even right. All I was saying was that he was a more important human than you or me. Like he had a positive impact on the world. We're the redshirts of the human species
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Jan 14, 2016 19:27
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Haha, I started reading them when I was 14, it only made sense to continue.
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loquacius posted:Beats the hell out of me, but War And Peace is one of those books that everyone just kind of accepts as being great without bothering to read it War and Peace actually isn't that bad if you're able to keep track of all of the people with similar names. It's a little slow going at first, but once you're into it I found it genuinely more enjoyable than some other classics. It's a weird thing to say but I think it works better as vacation reading than anything else- it was serialized fiction and consequently absolutely can be read for pleasure, but it's dense enough that it works best in a circumstance where you can consume it in large chunks rather than trying to take it in little bits over time and losing track of details.
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Jan 14, 2016 19:35
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Hot Take based entirely on that post and a quick scan of Wikipedia: War And Peace is 19th-century Game Of Thrones
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Jan 14, 2016 19:37
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I don't like having my hand held by the author especially when it's about boys walking around killing orcs
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Jan 14, 2016 19:38
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Clearly you have a boner for wizards. It is a hate boner but that doesn't mean you don't care. Why do you care OP???
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Jan 14, 2016 19:43
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Oh right, another for the list of good authors that are not entertaining: James Joyce He fills his poo poo chock-full of competently-done narrative devices and enough subtle symbolism to give an English teacher wet dreams, which makes him, technically speaking, a good author but seriously try reading that poo poo just try it
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I'm gonna propose something radical here and say that "good" authors that everyone hates to read are, in fact, not so good. I'm sure I could find some schizophrenic person's 10,000 page manifesto that is chockablock full of subtle symbolism and cutting social commentary, but it would still be awful. I propose "readability" be among the criterion by which "great" authors are judged.
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Jan 14, 2016 19:56
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We used to have a book recommendation thread in GBS. That was cool. Anyone know any quality, researched historical fiction ? Mika Waltari is pretty good, but I read everything
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Jan 14, 2016 19:58
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Applewhite posted:I'm gonna propose something radical here and say that "good" authors that everyone hates to read are, in fact, not so good. Honestly I have no problem with this because I loving hate James Joyce Decebal posted:We used to have a book recommendation thread in GBS. That was cool. I enjoyed Gentlemen of the Road by Michael Chabon, but it was just a Book of the Month in TBB and they largely had bad things to say about it, and also I read and enjoyed the Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson so I might not be the most trustworthy source on this
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Jan 14, 2016 20:02
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im gonna get rid of the western literary canon and replace it with space tits & space rear end
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Jan 14, 2016 20:03
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Bernard Cornwell's Saxon Chronicles are really good too !
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Nanomashoes posted:im gonna get rid of the western literary canon and replace it with space tits & space rear end The gem faces symbolize how women are forced to commoditize their beauty the way we commoditize jewelry.
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Jan 14, 2016 20:14
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Applewhite posted:The gem faces symbolize how women are forced to commoditize their beauty the way we commoditize jewelry. But the dudes have gems too
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Jan 14, 2016 20:20
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Nanomashoes posted:But the dudes have gems too Wah wah wah what about the menz  Try to stay on topic please 
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Jan 14, 2016 20:22
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Nanomashoes posted:But the dudes have gems too Interesting observation. Why do you think that is? I'm definitely looking forward to having you in Contemporary Applewhite Studies this spring semester.
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Jan 14, 2016 20:23
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Applewhite posted:Interesting observation. Why do you think that is? is there a dress code?
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loquacius posted:Wah wah wah what about the menz So you think perhaps the author included the gem faces on male characters as a meta-commentary on gender politics of the time? A sort of "red herring" to draw out discussion and reveal how we immediately turn all discussions about the struggles of women into a footnote to the struggles of men?
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Mange Mite posted:is there a dress code? Push up bras for women, codpieces for men
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Applewhite posted:So you think perhaps the author included the gem faces on male characters as a meta-commentary on gender politics of the time? A sort of "red herring" to draw out discussion and reveal how we immediately turn all discussions about the struggles of women into a footnote to the struggles of men? The intentions of the author are immaterial, what matters is what's supported by the text itself Do I have to give you a crash course on Death Of The Author? 
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loquacius posted:The intentions of the author are immaterial, what matters is what's supported by the text itself Nyaahahaha *tugs collar*
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same, im glad im no milennial.
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meltdown much, OP?
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Jan 14, 2016 21:15
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I only read to the point where hermoine said the "n" word 
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LGD posted:War and Peace actually isn't that bad if you're able to keep track of all of the people with similar names. I find this to be the case with many of Tolstoy's works. S Still not exactly thousand and one nights, though E: Shallow and pedantic.
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i tried to read a james joyce book once. when i started looking up words i didnt know i found out that he would just loving make up words sometimes without explaining what they meant. so, mixed in with all this archaic irish slang i obviously wasnt familiar with was the occasional fake word. that was such incredible bullshit that it still kind of irritates me decades later.
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Serious Frolicking posted:i tried to read a james joyce book once. when i started looking up words i didnt know i found out that he would just loving make up words sometimes without explaining what they meant. so, mixed in with all this archaic irish slang i obviously wasnt familiar with was the occasional fake word. that was such incredible bullshit that it still kind of irritates me decades later. No way, come on. No editor would let that pass
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Decebal posted:No way, come on. No editor would let that pass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnegans_Wake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioglossia i am not actually making that poo poo up
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read cormac mcarthy because like gbs goons he also does not believe in punctuation
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Nooner posted:I only read to the point where hermoine said the "n" word she can say it she's black
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A misanthrope posted:read cormac mcarthy because like gbs goons he also does not believe in punctuation That guy is a bit overhyped in my opinion.
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Serious Frolicking posted:i tried to read a james joyce book once. when i started looking up words i didnt know i found out that he would just loving make up words sometimes without explaining what they meant. so, mixed in with all this archaic irish slang i obviously wasnt familiar with was the occasional fake word. that was such incredible bullshit that it still kind of irritates me decades later. It's really musical and fun to read out loud.
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Decebal posted:No way, come on. No editor would let that pass Shakespeare made up hundreds of words while writing, many of which we still use today. Lewis Carrol made up like 5.
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Nanomashoes posted:Shakespeare made up hundreds of words while writing, many of which we still use today. Lewis Carrol made up like 5. Isn't english supposed to be one of the richest languages with a lot of words. What kind of hipster idiot needs even more "unique" words ?
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Nanomashoes posted:Shakespeare made up hundreds of words while writing, many of which we still use today. Lewis Carrol made up like 5. Also tons of dick and fart jokes 
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