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UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Taking a page from Barack Obama's playbook eh

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

i will vote for anyone that promises me a galactic empire

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Moridin920 posted:

I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project

lol facebook trends strikes again

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

i would vote for a nazi, but only ironically

I never get why some people have to be so negative about national socialism. It's just socialism that can actually work.

Morkies
Apr 19, 2015

by zen death robot

Maoist Pussy posted:

I never get why some people have to be so negative about national socialism. It's just socialism that can actually work.

that why it sucks so much

BambooEarpick
Sep 3, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiS6a1XE91M

Well, I know Trump has MY vote.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Maoist Pussy posted:

I never get why some people have to be so negative about national socialism. It's just socialism that can actually work.

because they stop listening after socialism because we were taught to hate socialism because of the Cold War. Even though Communism isn't Socialism they are interpreted as one in the same.

Socialism is big government stealing your money and having substandard services.
Capitalism is big companies stealing your money and having nothing.

Capitalism ftw

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Shadow posted:

because they stop listening after socialism because we were taught to hate socialism because of the Cold War. Even though Communism isn't Socialism they are interpreted as one in the same.

Socialism is big government stealing your money and having substandard services.
Capitalism is big companies stealing your money and having nothing.

Capitalism ftw

That's retarded. You are retarded.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

TEAYCHES posted:

That's retarded. You are retarded.

y u politishamin bro

Morkies
Apr 19, 2015

by zen death robot

Shadow posted:

because they stop listening after socialism because we were taught to hate socialism because of the Cold War. Even though Communism isn't Socialism they are interpreted as one in the same.

Socialism is big government stealing your money and having substandard services.
Capitalism is big companies stealing your money and having nothing.

Capitalism ftw

lol ok, you "have nothing" after capitalism, which is why capitalism was historically associated with extreme poverty and communism and feudalism created paradise on earth

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

As a non-American I find watching the American empire gradually decay and collapse from the inside out to be very entertaining. This is probably how the Anglo-Saxons felt 17 centuries ago.

noo, you dont get it! the romans had their greatest era of conquest and prosperity under the early Caesars. we still have 200 years of decadence after the golden reign of Trump before poo poo really starts to decay.

i donno about you, but i'm up for 200 years of decadence!

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

Morkies posted:

lol ok, you "have nothing" after capitalism, which is why capitalism was historically associated with extreme poverty and communism and feudalism created paradise on earth

maybe you missed the part where I said communism and socialism aren't the same thing. and national/democratic socialism is even less the same thing.


communism and deregulated capitalism suck.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Shadow posted:

maybe you missed the part where I said communism and socialism aren't the same thing. and national/democratic socialism is even less the same thing.


communism and deregulated capitalism suck.

Socialism is the path to communism you goddamn halfwit.

Shadow
Jun 25, 2002

TEAYCHES posted:

Socialism is the path to communism you goddamn halfwit.

lol at this idiot

Zippy the Bummer
Dec 14, 2008

Silent Majority
The Don
LORD COMMANDER OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKH6PAoUuD0

lol

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
we should do communism, but call it capitalism and do state sponsored "reality" shows about how great capitalism is, like Shark Tank.

that way everyone can be happy, people that love capitalism can continue to pretend that they will become millionaires one day, and they will get the state services that they desperately need.

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
That sounds lame. I want fascism and decadence and everyone dressing like Warhams.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I just want big rallies so I can stick out my arm and cheer like in Triumph of the Will.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I hope this is the election that destroys our electoral system. We deserve it.

Michael Transactions
Nov 11, 2013


I'm voting for him.

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Taint Reaper posted:

*looks at US census*

I think you're wrong there

Also Minority-Majority bringing some sort of era of racial acceptance is a lie. Look at the crime statistics. The Hispanics and Blacks do not like each other, there's more racial strife between them than there was when the Ku Klux Klan was in full swing.

And you don't want a one party system either, Japan had that and it killed their economy for decades.

http://www.redstate.com/diary/6755mm/2015/09/04/gop-nominee-needs-64-percent-white-vote-30-percent-non-white-vote-win-16/

quote:

For example, a recent Real Clear Politics interactive turn-out calculator shows that for the Republican nominee to win the White House, he or she must capture at least 64 percent of the white vote. (This assumes the white and non-white voter turn-out numbers remain historically consistent.)

The need to achieve 64 percent of the white vote should be extremely disconcerting for the GOP because since 1976 there have only been two presidential elections where the Republican nominees won over 60 percent of the white vote and that was in 1984 and 1988.

On the non-white vote side of the equation, respected Republican pollster Whit Ayres predicts that the Republican nominee must win at least 30 percent of the total non-white vote in order to win the White House.

Republicans must not sugarcoat these numbers because the party is swimming against strong tides of presidential election voting data dating back to 1976.

The demographic swings that will cause minority-majority don't mean widespread racial acceptance, it just means it gets harder for Republican shitheads to win the presidency with each passing election. Trump is the death cry of the white middle-American wasteland. Romney couldn't do it against a black guy in 2012 and a psycho narcissist isn't going to be able to do it in 2016 :smuggo:

Morkies
Apr 19, 2015

by zen death robot

Zeno-25 posted:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/6755mm/2015/09/04/gop-nominee-needs-64-percent-white-vote-30-percent-non-white-vote-win-16/


The demographic swings that will cause minority-majority don't mean widespread racial acceptance, it just means it gets harder for Republican shitheads to win the presidency with each passing election. Trump is the death cry of the white middle-American wasteland. Romney couldn't do it against a black guy in 2012 and a psycho narcissist isn't going to be able to do it in 2016 :smuggo:

trump is polling historically well with black voters

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Morkies posted:

trump is polling historically well with black voters

you know how in prison there are racial gangs? that's an intentional component of the system, if the mexican and the black gangs decide to work together they could easily over power the guards, but they are encouraged to be rivals so their energy is spend fighting each other.

does anyone think whitey conquered Africa with superior numbers? no obviously not, you support one faction against another. divide and conquer is how the trick works, and it works great. lots of black folks would love to vote for Trump, if it means that the police are looking for muslims and mexicans rather than them.

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Morkies posted:

trump is polling historically well with black voters

So like 3% instead of the usual zero?

Morkies
Apr 19, 2015

by zen death robot

Zeno-25 posted:

So like 3% instead of the usual zero?

like 25%

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Oct 30, 2009

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Can people in prison vote?

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Hitler never won an election either. In January Trump and the people will march on the white house, drag Hillary out of her bed by her hair and throw her off the roof of the white house, proclaiming the new age of Trumpism. Make America great again!

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Trump at 41% just lmao.

He's going to crush his opponents then shoot them.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Shadow posted:

lol at this idiot

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Quit with all this bullshit debate and just tell me which candidate is more likely to cause a Mad Max type scenario where I can shoot people with all the guns and ammo I've been stockpiling and I'll be able to buy an attractive woman for 3 ounces of silver.

BIG BIC SQUAD
Jan 24, 2015

oldpainless posted:

Can people in prison vote?

Depends on the state.
Vast majority, people in prison cannot vote (Vermont and Maine being the exceptions).
In many people on probation or on parole cannot vote either.
Sometimes people with felony convictions are barred from voting for the rest of their lives even after completing their sentence.

LungBrothers
Oct 5, 2015

by Shine
this just in trump supporters are sycophantic trash slaves and psychologically break their own children

quote:

In a fascinating recent poll, a single characteristic emerged as the clearest sign that a voter is a Trump supporter. Contrary to what some might expect, its not race, gender, income, age or education level. Its authoritarianism, clear and simple. Americans with authoritarian personalities (and they are more prevalent than any of us would like them to be) tend to support Trump.

This finding comes courtesy of a poll of 1,800 respondents conducted through the University of Massachusetts in Amherst, by Matthew MacWilliams. I found that education, income, gender, age, ideology and religiosity had no significant bearing on a Republican voters preferred candidate, MacWilliams writes in Politico this week. Only two of the variables I looked at were statistically significant: authoritarianism, followed by fear of terrorism, though the former was far more significant than the latter.

That Trump himself has authoritarian impulses wont surprise anyone at this point. His call to round up and deport 11 million people, build a giant wall, and flat-out ban an entire religious group, as well as his apparent contempt for the First Amendment are all hallmarks of his campaign. This thin-skinned, vainglorious man has a propensity to eject journalists and protesters who offend him from his events and viciously lash out at anyone who criticizes him. He naively thinks that as president he might be able to just shut down parts of the Internet. He surrounds himself with sycophants. Former White House insider John Dean lays out an excellent case for Trumps authoritarianism.

But Trump cant elect himself, and his strong-man style and promises to restore Americas Greatness are obviously resonating with certain kinds of people, and now we know what kinds.

MacWilliams poll asked whether it was more important for respondents if their children were respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.

No surprise then, that authoritarians yearn for a strong father figure in their leader. And as a quintessential authoritarian personality, Trump is also drawn to other authoritarians, like Putin, especially when they stroke his ego.

Other polls have noted that Trump supporters tend to skew male, older and white. Angry working-class voters are said to be powering both Trumps (and Sanders) rise. An article by John Judis in the National Journal laid out the similarity of Trump voters to segregationist George Wallaces base of support in 1968, then Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan in 1992. Like Wallace did, Trump is polling well with people who are registered Democrats and Independents yet are increasingly identifying themselves as Republican.

In fact, according to the New York Times Upshot, His very best voters are self-identified Republicans who nonetheless are registered as Democrats. Its a coalition thats concentrated in the South, Appalachia and the industrial North.

Trumps support also spans different ethnicities to a greater extent than is typical of Republican presidential candidates. A recent poll has his support at 20 percent among African-American voters. His popularity among Latino voters is lower, which is unsurprising given his constant hammering away at immigrants, but still at 11 percent by one estimate. What may unite all these disparate voters is the authoritarian strain, which can be found in just about every ethnic group.

Authoritarians are not entirely confined to the Republican Party, though many have been migrating in that direction. During the 2008 Democratic primary, political scientist Marc Hetherington looked at the role authoritarianism played in the election and found it was more significant than income, ideology, gender, age and education in predicting whether voters preferred Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama. But according to MacWilliams current poll, the trait no longer plays a big role among Democratic voters, whereas, 49 percent of likely Republican primary voters I surveyed score in the top quarter of the authoritarian scalemore than twice as many as Democratic voters. And though several of Trumps GOP opponents could also be considered authoritarian types, Trump is the one whose support among these voters is statistically significant.

Want more reason to worry about a potential Trump presidency? MacWilliams also identified 39 percent Independents and 17 percent Democrats who scored high for authoritarianism. And there are many more Americans whose fears of a terrorist attack can be exploited by a tough-talking strongman. As MacWilliams told Politico, Take activated authoritarians from across the partisan spectrum and the growing cadre of threatened non-authoritarians, then add them to the base of Republican general election voters, and the potential electoral path to a Trump presidency becomes clearer.

I think it's more important for my kid to be unquestioningly submissive to authority than to be self-reliant- a person who's allowed to breed and vote I guess

Morkies
Apr 19, 2015

by zen death robot

LungBrothers posted:

this just in trump supporters are sycophantic trash slaves and psychologically break their own children


I think it's more important for my kid to be unquestioningly submissive to authority than to be self-reliant- a person who's allowed to breed and vote I guess

>speaks out against "authoritarianism"

>implies dissidents should be sterilized and stripped of the vote

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013

FrankieGoes posted:

Quit with all this bullshit debate and just tell me which candidate is more likely to cause a Mad Max type scenario where I can shoot people with all the guns and ammo I've been stockpiling and I'll be able to buy an attractive woman for 3 ounces of silver.

Me.

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Morkies
Apr 19, 2015

by zen death robot

oldpainless posted:

Trumps gonna trump

*plays trump card*

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Rutibex posted:


does anyone think whitey conquered Africa with superior numbers? no obviously not, you support one faction against another. divide and conquer is how the trick works, and it works great. lots of black folks would love to vote for Trump, if it means that the police are looking for muslims and mexicans rather than them.

This was how Europe was formed. Europeans fought other Europeans this exact same way.

It's called having a war strategy, it's not some big super illuminati secret.


I mean geez Game of Thrones is based on all the Euro history poo poo.

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Drad_Bert
Jun 26, 2013

by Smythe
I kidnapped the doctor and his TARDIS Machine
When we got there I sold him to a Gay bathhouse
[Chorus]
I went forward in time and voted for Trump

[Verse 2]
I punched every girl I saw in the face
on the way to the booth to vote for Trump

[Chorus]

I just voted for Donald Trump

Donald Trump

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