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Counting who is owed something, or what is just, or legal, is missing the point entirely. All of society must be reformed to eliminate poverty and inequality for all people, regardless of their birth.
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Counting who is owed something, or what is just, or legal, is missing the point entirely. All of society must be reformed to eliminate poverty and inequality for all people, regardless of their birth.stephenfry posted:
Reparations as a separate thing from social reform for everyone only make sense if its purpose is to address some injustice or pay a debt rather than look for the best outcomes. It might sound noble or nice, but is the wrong way of looking at things. Shed the scales of justice from your eyes and look to what works for the general good. Purposefully adding racial components to wealth redistribution is poison for everyone involved. It does not matter if it's "fair".
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Jan 22, 2016 00:34
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So what you want is not reparations, but rather a properly managed welfare state where the policies aimed to eliminate poverty and inequality actually work. Ok sounds good.
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Jan 22, 2016 04:44
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computer parts posted:What is the difference? One involves giving money to black people, and the other one is called reparations. One does not determine who receives assistance based on their genes, skin or cultural identity. One is not concerned with arcane concepts of justice or moral debt, but rather what is best for everyone now.
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Jan 22, 2016 05:02
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computer parts posted:They're apparently not more controversial, since they would prefer it to discussing race. Discuss race then. Which is your favorite one? Me, always found mongols pretty cool.
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Jan 22, 2016 23:56
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You start. Lay out some questions you want to get into that people in the thread don't want to talk about.
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Jan 23, 2016 00:08
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computer parts posted:Welfare should be expanded with additional weights given to those in traditionally disadvantaged minority groups. People have been talking about that the whole thread. Just because they don't agree with you doesn't mean they are refusing to "discuss race".
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Jan 23, 2016 00:21
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HorseLord posted:
Rise rise, and kill your oppressors. Wash the land with blood.
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Verily, but it's the only way to get the poison out. Guess we are all doomed.
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