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Magicpants
Sep 15, 2011


Certified Poster
he's not jewish, he's just sponsored by the jews for PR purposes

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swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
I actually used to live a few blocks away from the Jewish Sports Hall of Fame.

Chromatic
Jan 21, 2005

You guys ready to hear a satanic song?

Linedance posted:



5 and 11 man formations. Both play action passes. For the second one pretend there's a receiver way out on the flat because I can't count past ten (ran out of fingers).

nett

Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


If you have a racist grandpap, ask him about basketball when he was a kid and he'll say it was a Jew sport

Badfinger
Dec 16, 2004

Timeouts?!

We'll take care of that.

Why is that quarterback so mad? I don't understand. It's funny.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Doing this seriously would have been really interesting.

But the way this ended up was beautiful in its own way.

:five:

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

OP Update week 1:

We played two games and got murdered in both of them.

Routes really didn't matter much. Matchups were the only thing that really did. I found one kid who can play safety and another who is taller than hell so he can curl in the middle of the field and get the ball above the defenders.

Still need a QB. All the kids who could throw wilted under the pass rush. We were picked off 6 times.

Running the ball actually did work because of matchups. Hand the ball to the fastest kid and let him rip. Just need the handoffs to go much faster and it'll work.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.
I've found that for flag football games with limited practice time, it's really about the basics. Just even stuff like being able to reliably grab a flag as a guy's going past. Consider working drills where like, WR runs an uncovered slant and QB delivers the ball, WR turns upfield and a safety is waiting for a tackling drill. Maybe even put up some cones like this to funnel the WR and S towards each other:

____S
*_______*
*_______*
*_______*
*_______*
*_______ *
*_______*
Catch point, WR turns upfield and runs through cones
______\
________\
__________\
____________\
QB__________WR

This could drill routes, throwing/catching, and tackling, all in one. Get kids to rotate through the positions.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

I get a 45min practice then we play two 40min games. Three kids i just met today.

I need a plan for a 45 min practice to get something going for next week. Kids had fun today but I gotta turn it around or they're not going to come back next season.

El Seano
Dec 30, 2008
Have you considered searching eBay for Tom Landrys hat?

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Ron Jeremy posted:

I get a 45min practice then we play two 40min games. Three kids i just met today.

I need a plan for a 45 min practice to get something going for next week. Kids had fun today but I gotta turn it around or they're not going to come back next season.

Sounds like its perfect for 45 minutes of Oklahoma drills.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Ron Jeremy posted:

I get a 45min practice then we play two 40min games. Three kids i just met today.

I need a plan for a 45 min practice to get something going for next week. Kids had fun today but I gotta turn it around or they're not going to come back next season.
Hmm, I'll put in my Teacher Hat. I teach college kids so I'm not able to add too many specifics. This should help you figure out what you need to be able to teach, though. The basics of good pedagogy are good everywhere.

You have 45 minutes to teach the entirety of the stuff you need for the two games. So you need to think about what they need to be able to do in a game. Since you don't need to think about special teams, you really only have to deal with offense and defense. So what do they need to be able to do on both sides of the ball? Figure out exactly what skills they will need for the game, and figure out how to teach those. Don't think "well, we need to do passing drills, so we should do those." You will need to do passing drills, but you need to know why they need to know those. Don't just say "well, because we'll pass the football." Say "well, I want them to be able to do X, Y, and Z in the game," where X, Y, and Z are very specific things. Think "I want the QB to be able to throw a slant route to the center" or "I want the defender to be able to be in a position to grab the flag of the player running at this angle" kind of specificity. This will help you know what you need to teach.

Now, how do you figure out how to teach it? Well, try to combine as much as possible into a drill. gohuskies' drill idea is good, but you might incorporate a player snapping the football (maybe the receiver). Rotate every player through every position. A good way to do this is come up with an order for every player to run every drill. Come to the field with basically a plan for every minute for every player. This will require a bunch of planning but it'll pay off since there won't be much downtime and everyone will get equal practice time. Be sure you leave some time to teach whatever zone defense you're using and your offensive formations (have as few as possible...be Mike Leach) and plays, but don't focus on that. Use those to put together all the other stuff you just taught, and don't add anything new at that point.

At the end, try and have something fun. At the very end, teach that fun trick play, whatever it is. Note that laterals and pitches aren't allowed and all passes must go beyond the line of scrimmage (handoffs are legal, and once the ball is handed off the QB is eligible and anyone can run past the line of scrimmage).

Some other mechanical bits for teaching include making things that the kids will need to memorize (which you should keep to a minimum) easy to remember with mnemonics or word associations. Send them home with homework to memorize the plays. Include words (or pictures) that'll be memorable for 11 year olds. Give them flashcards with the stuff they need on it. For positioning, it won't need to be precise, but you need to get them to line up in the right place, more or less. So every kid needs to learn the routes they'll be asked to run, the defensive positioning they'll be asked to be in, where they need to line up, and what the play calls are. This is a lot more than you think, so do some arithmetic to keep what they need to memorize to a minimum. I presume you'll have more practices, so you can add stuff later. You will want to find ways to maximize what you can do while minimizing the amount of memorization. Focus on being able to do a few things well, especially since you have one practice before the first game.

A good resource is going to be Google. Look up other people's practice plans and steal their good ideas. Also, figure out what everyone on the team already knows. I assume you'll have some other parents helping, so involve them in this kind of planning.

If that sounds too complicated, your backup plan is

swickles posted:

45 minutes of Oklahoma drills.

Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Jan 25, 2016

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Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Make sure the kids know to Do Their Job.

Also fine them if they're late. And by late I mean not five minutes early.

swickles posted:

Sounds like its perfect for 45 minutes of Oklahoma drills.

lol

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

LordPants posted:

Make sure the kids know to Do Their Job.

Also fine them if they're late. And by late I mean not five minutes early.


lol

Also chop the sleeves off a hoodie. For some reason, it works, even if you look like a complete goober.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Fastest kid should be your quarterback. He'll figure out how to run and throw. Just a buncha dump offs

Dattserberg
Dec 30, 2005

National champion, Heisman winner, King crab enthusiast

swickles posted:

Sounds like its perfect for 45 minutes of Oklahoma drills.

And if parents start bitching, you can tell them the team doctor advised doing it in order to build toughness and character.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Dattserberg posted:

And if parents start bitching, you can tell them the team doctor advised doing it in order to build toughness and character.

You see, a child's brain is just like their gums. If you don't use a decent brush to toughen them up, they become weak and prone to injury.

Bjay9
May 3, 2011

Kid, touch is for video games and gynecologists

swickles posted:

You see, a child's brain is just like their gums. If you don't use a decent brush to toughen them up, they become weak and prone to injury.

If a doctor says it, it must be true!

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

swickles posted:

You see, a child's brain is just like their gums. If you don't use a decent brush to toughen them up, they become weak and prone to injury.

I always knew reading books was a lie

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Op update: week four and were 0-8. It's pretty clear that most of these coaches have been doing this for a while. I otoh have no loving clue. I have one guy who can throw the ball but he melts under the pass rush and throws rainbows into the middle of the field.

I've tried keeping a couple qbs in there to get experience facing a pass rush. I've tried micromanaging the plays on a white board. I've tried school yard style just find the open man poo poo.

We're just getting blown up over and over again and it's not fun for the kids.

gohuskies
Oct 23, 2010

I spend a lot of time making posts to justify why I'm not a self centered shithead that just wants to act like COVID isn't a thing.

Ron Jeremy posted:

Op update: week four and were 0-8. It's pretty clear that most of these coaches have been doing this for a while. I otoh have no loving clue. I have one guy who can throw the ball but he melts under the pass rush and throws rainbows into the middle of the field.

I've tried keeping a couple qbs in there to get experience facing a pass rush. I've tried micromanaging the plays on a white board. I've tried school yard style just find the open man poo poo.

We're just getting blown up over and over again and it's not fun for the kids.

Are there any other coaches who aren't dicks who you could ask for advice? I mean it's youth sports so all the adults involved are pretty much guaranteed to be unreasonable, but maybe you could ask one who's already beaten you how they do it, what kinds of things they run, how they practice, that kind of stuff. Sounds like they know the league and how to play it best.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!
^^--yeah that

Ron Jeremy posted:

We're just getting blown up over and over again and it's not fun for the kids.

That's too bad :(

You might want to try to talk to the other coaches if you get a chance, if they aren't ultra-competitive jerks they'll probably be happy enough to share some tips.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

Ron Jeremy posted:

Op update: week four and were 0-8. It's pretty clear that most of these coaches have been doing this for a while. I otoh have no loving clue. I have one guy who can throw the ball but he melts under the pass rush and throws rainbows into the middle of the field.

I've tried keeping a couple qbs in there to get experience facing a pass rush. I've tried micromanaging the plays on a white board. I've tried school yard style just find the open man poo poo.

We're just getting blown up over and over again and it's not fun for the kids.

Time to go full Alex Smith mode

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Time to forge some birth certificates

Tr33
May 26, 2007

Love is a tiny lion holding a donut!
Always sweep left.

Vando
Oct 26, 2007

stoats about
Does the team have any obvious strengths, or is it just a massacre in all areas? Are the players outmatched physically or technically, or both?

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Vando posted:

Does the team have any obvious strengths, or is it just a massacre in all areas? Are the players outmatched physically or technically, or both?

Biggest thing is I don't have anyone who can throw the ball under pressure. We've had most success with run plays with pre snap motion so the running back is already up to speed by the time he gets the ball.

Defense has been better. I have one kid who is a head taller than the rest but kind of slow so I send him as pass rush. He gets his hands up and makes the qb move and I've been getting him better at flushing the qb away from his throwing hand side.

I've tried different guy rushing but since this guy is a little slow, there always seems to be an open man downfield when he's not rushing.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
Are you running Tampa 2? If not you should

Thermos H Christ
Sep 6, 2007

WINNINGEST BEVO

In high school our coach would give a heil hitler salute from the sideline to signal for the ss blitz. Get it? SS? Blitz? That stopped very quickly once it came to the attention of the school administrators.

turbomoose
Nov 29, 2008
Playing the banjo can be a relaxing activity and create lifelong friendships!
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:backtowork:
If i learned anything from my flag football league it's that refs never call opi for picks. So just run a lot of picks.

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Am I the only one disturbed by Ron Jeremy coaching a bunch of kids?

turbomoose posted:

refs never call opi for picks. So just run a lot of picks.

Bill Belichick alt account spotted

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Mystic Stylez posted:

Am I the only one disturbed by Ron Jeremy coaching a bunch of kids?


Bill Belichick alt account spotted

The real Ron Jeremy was a special Ed teacher.

Lost another two games yesterday. At this point it's a character building exercise for the kids and frustrating as poo poo for me.

Don't lob it up into the middle of the field. For fucks sake.

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Ron Jeremy posted:

I get a 45min practice then we play two 40min games. Three kids i just met today.

I need a plan for a 45 min practice to get something going for next week. Kids had fun today but I gotta turn it around or they're not going to come back next season.

Give a camcorder to a friend with a dirty mouth and let him go Lewis black while filming the games.

At the start of every practice, play the best sections of his riffing as a "film study".

Serve beer. They'll come back. Get funny/fun, they'll love coming in. Also, turn yourself into the Michael Scott of coaches.

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

Chilichimp posted:

Give a camcorder white suit to a friend with a dirty mouth and let him go Lewis black while filming the games.

Yates
Jan 29, 2010

He was just 17...




Ron Jeremy posted:

I get a 45min practice then we play two 40min games. Three kids i just met today.

I need a plan for a 45 min practice to get something going for next week. Kids had fun today but I gotta turn it around or they're not going to come back next season.

Don't worry so much about it. I've coached flag or tackle at all age groups, from like 6 year old through high school. I've had teams that dominated, didn't allow a point all season and only allowed 1 first down. I've had teams that didn't come close to winning a game and it was an accomplishment if we were only down 3 scores at half time. From my experience, most kids don't seem to care all that much about winning and losing or even how the games go. The ones that end up quitting would probably quit if you went undefeated and dominated everybody. So don't worry about it. If they kids are having fun in practices and enjoy playing, they'll be fine.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Final OP update. Finished the season 2-10.

One win was by forfeit. Apparently all the guys on that team were on the same baseball team and played baseball that day. They were also 8-0 at that point so maybe they took a bye going into the final tournament weekend.

Couple things I learned: some guys take this poo poo real loving serious. I saw one of the coaches yelling in the face of kid who was crying his eyes out. I saw another pair of coaches physically escorted off the field after being ejected. That was not what I was expecting. At the initial coaches meeting, it was reinforced that this was casual and that if you were practicing outside of day of game, you were doing it wrong.

The other is that while they say there are supposed to be only a couple buddy picks for your team, the coaches are drafting known repeat players and since I wasn't at the draft, I got the leftovers and the unknowns.

Overall I had a pretty negative experience with this league. I did my best to not let that show to the kids, but they felt it too. I did my best to keep it light and fun. We ran stupid silly plays and had fun.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Congrats on probably being the only good coach/handler

Chromatic
Jan 21, 2005

You guys ready to hear a satanic song?

Cavauro posted:

Congrats on probably being the only good coach/handler

Same.

Hope your kids weren't too discouraged by the rough season op

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Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Chromatic posted:

Same.

Hope your kids weren't too discouraged by the rough season op

Yeah sorry to hear it op.

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Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Tell me you gave them this speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwVNuyfhF0Q

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