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Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot

Idiot Kicker posted:

drat liberals need to control their poo poo states

IDK it seems like a fine bastion of democratic values to me.

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LordoftheScheisse
Jan 16, 2016


Was this created by the PR firm that Snyder hired, or was it created before?

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

LordoftheScheisse posted:



Was this created by the PR firm that Snyder hired, or was it created before?

Are bubbles or cartoon condoms still in the wrapper?

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

LordoftheScheisse posted:



Was this created by the PR firm that Snyder hired, or was it created before?

The date it was made and the agencies responsible are right on there. Although you do a good job proving my point that the witch hunt against Snyder is lead largely by retards.

ChthonicLlama
May 15, 2007
Speaking of which, what do we think of this?
http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2016/01/21/5-disturbing-revelations-from-gov-snyders-e-mails-about-flint-water-crisis/

quote:

An e-mail obtained by Motor City Muckraker shows the deal would have saved the city $800 million over 30 years, which was 20% more inexpensive than switching to the Karegnondi Water Authority.

A high-ranking DWSD official told us today that Detroit offered a 50% reduction over what Flint had been paying Detroit. In fact, documents show that DWSD made at least six proposals to Flint, saying “the KWA pipeline can only be attributed to a ‘political’ objective that has nothing to do with the delivery – or the price – of water.”
...

quote:

Curiously, he refused to release e-mails from 2013, which would have showed why state officials decided to make the switch from DWSD to the KWA. Now it seems clear why Snyder wouldn’t release the e-mails: They would have revealed that the switch was not about saving money.

So what was it about? Some have suggested that Snyder was motivated by a desire to break up DWSD and ultimately privatize it. In the summer of 2015, DWSD was split into two entities: the DWSD and the Great Lakes Water Authority.

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔菌~♡

BigBoss posted:

The date it was made and the agencies responsible are right on there. Although you do a good job proving my point that the witch hunt against Snyder is lead largely by retards.

Nah, he and the legislature that ramrodded the EFM bill through should be held to full account.

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax



The Flint city council, elected by the people of Flint, felt that they could save money by switching off of Detroit Water. They voted 7-1 in favor of the decision. They did this because the City of Detroit water department had been run by idiots for years, treated as a piggy bank to fund the rest of Detroit. The EFM and the governor allowed the decision of the Flint city council to stand because the Detroit Water Department kept raising rates to prices the people of Flint could not afford. The other choice, the EFM and governor not allowing the city council's vote to stand, would have been derided by the same people critiquing them now as "plantation politics". It is a losing situation for all parties involved, from both a political standpoint and a real life consequence one. It is a shame, because now the people of Flint will be even more retarded due to lead poisoning because of bad decisions made by crooked people like Kwame Kilpatric and Coleman Young that made clean drinking water unavailable. What's worse is there are still individuals in the area lauding those crooks who have hurt so many people.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

EorayMel posted:

For real, the more I read of this the sadder I grow.

if it makes u feel any better nothing of consequence is likely to happen to the people responsible

Acid Haze
Feb 16, 2009

:parrot:
ANNEX THE UP!

NihilismNow
Aug 31, 2003
Nevermind the lead, $200 a month in water is insane. I pay that per year and i use water as if it was free (It is actually ~$2 per cubic meter or 264 gallon). And that is water that is literally as clean or cleaner as bottled water.

At $200 a month i'd probably get a trailer and go buy my water somewhere cheaper. Like hook up your trailer, drive to the nearest town that is not completely hosed and pay someone $50 to fill up with a thousand gallons or so.
Maybe collect rainwater and buy a cheap reverse osmosis device.

Testikles
Feb 22, 2009
Michigan is shaped like a mitt because they literally need them pinned to their sleeves.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Who the gently caress drinks tap water? Lol poors

Indy
Mar 30, 2005

Hey guys, what's up?

Darth123123 posted:

Who the gently caress drinks tap water? Lol poors

People not living in a 3rd world shithole?

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

the automotive industrial complex hosed up every inch of land it ever sat on here. the land paid the ultimate price for the automobile.

i mean we pay... i mean the earth... fuckit

the actual earth that comprises michigan hates cars and actively seeks revenge for the destruction of the landscape. roads melt like butter in the sun, and the water table in major industrial areas has turned to liquid vitriol. at this point im surprised that the flora and fauna havent pulled an australia and become toxic and hostile to mankind.

EngineerSean
Feb 9, 2004

by zen death robot
Liberals are the real racists, as usual.

Guy DeBorgore
Apr 6, 1994

Catnip is the opiate of the masses
Soiled Meat

BigBoss posted:

The Flint city council, elected by the people of Flint, felt that they could save money by switching off of Detroit Water. They voted 7-1 in favor of the decision. They did this because the City of Detroit water department had been run by idiots for years, treated as a piggy bank to fund the rest of Detroit. The EFM and the governor allowed the decision of the Flint city council to stand because the Detroit Water Department kept raising rates to prices the people of Flint could not afford. The other choice, the EFM and governor not allowing the city council's vote to stand, would have been derided by the same people critiquing them now as "plantation politics". It is a losing situation for all parties involved, from both a political standpoint and a real life consequence one. It is a shame, because now the people of Flint will be even more retarded due to lead poisoning because of bad decisions made by crooked people like Kwame Kilpatric and Coleman Young that made clean drinking water unavailable. What's worse is there are still individuals in the area lauding those crooks who have hurt so many people.

you convenient forgot to mention that the 7-1 vote was (a) not about switching to Flint river water and (b) purely symbolic because at the time Flint was being run by a series of unelected managers, appointed by your bff rick snyder, with a mandate to balance the budget come hell or lead water.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

lol this thing is a mess on such a massive level

angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
Looks like the Flint mayor needs to get the 'lead' out!

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Yabba Dabba Doo

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

I don't see why there's all this worry about a couple of deadbeat leeches using socialised water. Do they not even own their own utility company or something?

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

The Flint mayor sure caused sparks to fly with this lead thing lol

yeah i know it's steel and not lead gently caress you

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Strategic Tea posted:

I don't see why there's all this worry about a couple of deadbeat leeches using socialised water. Do they not even own their own utility company or something?

These people should have tested their own water they deserve their violent children TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

An Ounce of Gold
Jul 13, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Guy DeBorgore posted:

you convenient forgot to mention that the 7-1 vote was (a) not about switching to Flint river water and (b) purely symbolic because at the time Flint was being run by a series of unelected managers, appointed by your bff rick snyder, with a mandate to balance the budget come hell or lead water.

Yeah that guy is an idiot. The council was just a figurehead at that point. Earley, the first emergency city manager had the power, and he was appointed by Snyder for pure political reasons. I think some people that don't know the entire situation are being confused by there being TWO different emergency managers. The council only voted on this AFTER Earley had taken control.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rick-snyder-flint_us_56a10daae4b076aadcc579b0?ir=Politics&section=us_politics

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Strategic Tea posted:

I don't see why there's all this worry about a couple of deadbeat leeches using socialised water. Do they not even own their own utility company or something?

I run my own well. Socialist comrade

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

how did rick snyder get reelected lol. whenever i hear about him it sounds like his entire idea of how to govern was developed by adapting the plot of Snow Crash into ronald reagan fan fiction

Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jan 25, 2016

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
Obama does not care about white people.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

Kurtofan posted:

Yabba Dabba Doo

value-brand cereal
May 2, 2008

Ok I spent the day filling up bottles with San Fran's artesian well water. Does anyone have an address I can send them to? I've got like seventeen soda bottles [plastic] and a couple liter bottles. Thank you.

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

Darth123123 posted:

Who the gently caress drinks tap water? Lol poors

I do. Our aquifer is limestone and a bit of disolved limestone in ur water surprisingly tastes amazing. It is really drat good. Also I barely pay for it. I don't think my water bill has ever been over 20 bucks. But ya my parents live in the 2nd world (houston) and they dont even give yhe dogs tapwater. +1 to the residents of the civilized earth.

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.
Americker is an irradiated wasteland. Within it lay some cities. Outside the walls, a cursed earth.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot
Milwaukee had /has one of the best water filtration systems in the world because of cryptosperidium outbreaks back in the 90s. I'll drink that water through my filter any day.

I'm in chicago now and not a fan of it to be hoesnt not a fan at all. I think sometimes I've sene brown water in my faucet. That worries me.

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

Hector Beerlioz posted:

Yup, it makes kids violent. There was a sharp decrease in crime after lead paint was banned.

unleaded gasoline too.

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

i had no idea casual wells in your front yard were not the default, next your going to tell me you dont have a septic tank

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

i live in minneapolis and the city has some kind of mission control center for the water supply

http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/08/17/water-treatment-tour-minneapolis

quote:

Superintendent Annika Bankston showed them the laboratory where scientists constantly track water quality using sophisticated equipment — like a gas chromatograph-mass spectrophotometer.

Some of the monitoring systems have simpler names: Call them clams, or technically freshwater mussels. They sit in a tank and sample the river water. Bankston explained that they serve as an experimental early warning system.

"And so if there's ever a rapid change, or if all of a sudden all the clams close their mouths, we know that something's gone very different with the river, and it alerts us to do some extra testing," Bankston said.

...

George Kraynick, water quality manager, said that after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in 2001, Minneapolis banned tour groups at the water plant. It's still a high-security facility. But in recent years, the city has reopened the plant for tours.

:backtowork:

Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jan 25, 2016

EmperorFritoBandito
Aug 7, 2010

by exmarx

Darth123123 posted:

Who the gently caress drinks tap water? Lol poors

Those grubby little plebs with their potable faucet water need to get their poo poo together and move to wherever Darth123123 hangs out

kremlins
May 9, 2009

Nathilus posted:

I do. Our aquifer is limestone and a bit of disolved limestone in ur water surprisingly tastes amazing. It is really drat good. Also I barely pay for it. I don't think my water bill has ever been over 20 bucks. But ya my parents live in the 2nd world (houston) and they dont even give yhe dogs tapwater. +1 to the residents of the civilized earth.

the water in houston is fine. your parents seem to be misinformed

Deadbeat Poetry
Mar 6, 2004

Sorry if my costume scared you
The water in my town is pretty excellent and we use an obscene amount of it. the most a bill has ever been is like 54. Basically what I'm saying is death to Michigan

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

EmperorFritoBandito posted:

Those grubby little plebs with their potable faucet water need to get their poo poo together and move to wherever Darth123123 hangs out

Pleas3 don't

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

Kremlin Kremlin posted:

the water in houston is fine. your parents seem to be misinformed

maybe, but {fluoride-communism-flowchart.jpg}

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An Ounce of Gold
Jul 13, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
http://michaelmoore.com/10FactsOnFlint/

10 things to learn if you live outside of Michigan to catch up on so you don't sound like that moron earlier in the thread defending Snyder.

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