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Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy
I couldn't find a thread for this, so I'll just see if anyone else is into this stuff. There have been artists popping up on social media who just make this weird genre of visual art that sprang from vaporwave originally, but has taken on a lot of surrealism and experimental methods, but I don't have the vocabulary to explain what ties it together. I've found some Facebook pages that aggregate what I'm talking about, and I know there are also tumblrs, subreddits, etc out there. Here are some examples
















Am I not the only one who can't get enough of this?

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TheDon01
Mar 8, 2009


So, trapper keepers?

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

I'd rename this to PYF thing to look at while high on drugs

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
The specific type of aesthetic you're thinking of is called vaporwave, but there are all kinds.

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

This stuff is still not as good as actual PS1 graphics. Like most aesthetics it is cool when done well and usually very Bad when it is not (which is most of the time). Designers Republic did cool stuff in a vaguely similar way, Japanese inspired Euro-minimalism or something? Their print stuff is good, but their video game work really holds up (wipeout etc).

Parappa the Rappa stands out as a really unique aesthetic for the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmKFp73fC4c
My partner still finds the animation genuinely unsettling, which I think is a strength of early 3d art that almost increases overtime.

Marcel Duchamp's The Bride Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors, Even


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_Stripped_Bare_by_Her_Bachelors,_Even

Modernist stuff in general is really interesting and I will do an effort post about it sometime if this thread doesn't disappear.

Also, lets get Beksinski out of the way. I feel like the landscapes especially are really starting to show their influence.





E: lol thought this literally meant post your favourite aesthetics. well cya

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invisible jerk
Jul 29, 2013
what is a e s t h e t i c who can say?

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012




Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

I can guarantee you that every one of these is a pro click from my many years of browsing the vaporwave digital plaza.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hI0qMtdfng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2s_hg_AG2w
http://webm.land/media/m6p0.webm
http://webm.land/media/tmp/f8b1e133-3cf8-4675-ba8d-cc30a712531a.webm

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

field balm posted:

E: lol thought this literally meant post your favourite aesthetics. well cya

I think there's room in this thread for a lot of that stuff that you just posted, especially that Duchamp piece which is crazy to me that it's from before 1930. Though as far as Parappa the Rappa et al, appropriation of images from PS1 stuff out of context would be more fitting, but I also like to hear about source material and what it means to you.

For example, I never had a PS1 and my friends only had Nintendo and Sega, so Parappa the Rappa to me is more of a bygone element that I recognize only from marginal appearances elsewhere (like the back of a Simpsons comic book I read once).

Anyway, one artist I've been following is named Render Fruit

Feeling Pretty


Capricorn, always trying to reach goals


For those who ask me what I think while running

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Okay, since we're here can somebody finally explain t h i s t h i n g w i t h t h e s p a c e s to me?

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Okay, since we're here can somebody finally explain t h i s t h i n g w i t h t h e s p a c e s to me?

i t ' s a e s t h e t i c a l l y p l e a s i n g

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Hmm, interesting. Not sure if it fits, but have you ever heard of the band Wawes?

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Okay, since we're here can somebody finally explain t h i s t h i n g w i t h t h e s p a c e s to me?

It's ethereal, like you're zooming through cyberspace, and it's sort of like someone is saying it to you through a time portal. It's also an easy way to fossilize or title-ize lower-case letters on websites where you only get one font. I also started this thread in search of better ways of explaining this stuff.

For example, after my phone got irreparably broken (salt water) I took a video of my hand holding it under gently running water, with the caption "c l e a n" (I'll figure out how to get it as a webm to put here later). I've also seen sᴍᴀʟʟᴄᴀᴘs used

sector_corrector posted:

Hmm, interesting. Not sure if it fits, but have you ever heard of the band Wawes?

I haven't. Link?

Also, shout-out to the James Ferarro thread in NMD, and while the Far Side Virtual album cover uses more modern elements, this music video owns for rear end dead dick (thx fjc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNhP6aoP6XY

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13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Surreal horror
https://vimeo.com/16056709
https://vimeo.com/128009116
https://vimeo.com/72102259

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Stinky_Pete posted:


Am I not the only one who can't get enough of this?

From the IoSM thread, I think you'd enjoy:

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
didnt read the thread but my favorite aesthetic is memphis. feast your eyes on this, assholes

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



What’s old is new and what is new is dog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZP4Nu_8Ark

Drink-Mix Man posted:

Okay, since we're here can somebody finally explain t h i s t h i n g w i t h t h e s p a c e s to me?

It’s good.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012


Way better:
https://vimeo.com/75534042

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


If I had any artistic talent I would make a game entirely in this style, it's pretty much my favourite thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xhdy9zBEws

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Me when I open this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DERtyxZ-mLU

Zombear
Dec 4, 2007
Catchphrase!

TheDon01 posted:

So, trapper keepers?

Hell yeah, Lisa Frank ITT



Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

No love for brutalism?





















Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


I discovered Jon Rafman recently and I don't know quite what to make of him.
https://vimeo.com/141725681
https://vimeo.com/68070261
https://vimeo.com/100324610

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Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy
brutalism? where are those from?

also, my alma mater had a bit of that



You could film Divergent on this poo poo

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Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

Sebadoh Gigante posted:

No love for brutalism?


o n e a y y y t e a

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill


This was really cool

Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

Dank as gently caress


Im dying

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

Stinky_Pete posted:

I think there's room in this thread for a lot of that stuff that you just posted, especially that Duchamp piece which is crazy to me that it's from before 1930.

Nice, I'm glad someone enjoyed, I'll try and talk about some more relevant stuff for a while.

I think it was a good move not to use the term vaporwave for the thread - I guess this aesthetic probably does need a term to describe it, but vaporwave seems unnecessarily constrictive when you really consider how much influence it has taken from media/new media (over the past 30 years or so especially). Basically, I don't think it's as niche a genre as it thinks it is, and is not as 'retro' as most people consider it.

The idea of re-use, re-contextualization and manipulation of existing assets has always been important in certain styles of art and this is just a certain era's version of it, where the consumers and creators range from people who enjoyed/consumed the media it evokes the first time round to people who are experiencing it for the first time in this context.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimpsest

I think that it might be important that it occurred at the end of a 'retro' cycle - we'd gone through 70's, 80's, 90's and early 2000 nostalgia and caught up with ourselves. I'm not particularly knowledgable about visual art, so I'm going to focus on the audio side for a bit, but I will stress that I think the visual side of the aesthetic will be more important/lasting over time.


This image especially, I think is meant to evoke older windows (95/xp?), the bliss background, and the relaxing sound design? These sounds are famously made by Brian Eno, the forefather of modern ambient music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUbjTapNImM. He also made a lot of the diagetic sounds for windows, which are used as percussive and melodic samples in a lot of this stuff.

What I recognise as the first 'big' vaporwave thing is this track by blank banshee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGT3tmZJ5s. Importantly, it is sampled pretty much wholesale from a track from Donkey Kong Country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4XCk2HFdNc.

Sampling in music is not really a new thing, but the context is kind of unique. Likewise I assume most of the visuals in the video are made using the stock assets in some kind of early 3d animation software.

As far as the Brutalism thing goes, I think the appreciation of the visual style is similarly removed from the original context of what these buildings (at least the British and Communist style ones for living in) stood for to the people who existed in and around them when they were built. Having said that, I also love the style, but more for educational and government buildings than housing. As far as media goes, there is also a generation that will continue to grow up with a nostalgia for low-poly anything (imagine I posted pictures of cool Quake levels and stuff here).

Stinky_Pete posted:

Though as far as Parappa the Rappa et al, appropriation of images from PS1 stuff out of context would be more fitting, but I also like to hear about source material and what it means to you.

For example, I never had a PS1 and my friends only had Nintendo and Sega, so Parappa the Rappa to me is more of a bygone element that I recognize only from marginal appearances elsewhere (like the back of a Simpsons comic book I read once).

I think you might have hit something here, and I kinda have now convinced myself that vaporwave is maybe a decent name for this aesthetic, in the abstract. There is a kind of naivety to it - you see images, or video or whatever an unreleased/nonexistent game (vaporware) you go to all kind of crazy places in your head about how cool and good it could be, and I guess the aesthetic is the future a couple of generations are thinking about in a similar way.

I'll talk more about some PS1 and modernist stuff soon because I'm drinking and rambling but there are definitely some interesting things about to talk about here!

E: to contribute, here is an actual thing from my childhood:

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Bates
Jun 15, 2006

Toys For Ass Bum
Feb 1, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyt_87yCyNw

assthetics

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


field balm posted:

E: to contribute, here is an actual thing from my childhood:


I loved that virtually all the game cases had this aesthetic. So good. You knew instantly from half a mile away which system it was for.

Douche Wolf 89
Dec 9, 2010

🍉🐺8️⃣9️⃣
I'm actually down to listen to vaporwave music, but the whole a e s t h e t i c is basically a non-ocean themed version of Seapunk stuff that was around like 4 years ago right?

Annabel Pee
Dec 29, 2008

Stinky_Pete posted:

I think there's room in this thread for a lot of that stuff that you just posted, especially that Duchamp piece which is crazy to me that it's from before 1930. Though as far as Parappa the Rappa et al, appropriation of images from PS1 stuff out of context would be more fitting, but I also like to hear about source material and what it means to you.

For example, I never had a PS1 and my friends only had Nintendo and Sega, so Parappa the Rappa to me is more of a bygone element that I recognize only from marginal appearances elsewhere (like the back of a Simpsons comic book I read once).

Anyway, one artist I've been following is named Render Fruit

Feeling Pretty


Capricorn, always trying to reach goals


For those who ask me what I think while running


Anyone know what software is used for stuff like this? Its really cool

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


Probably Maya. It's one of those programs that's goddamn everywhere.

invisible jerk
Jul 29, 2013
a e s t h e t i c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30434O_d_TY

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Douche Wolf 89 posted:

I'm actually down to listen to vaporwave music, but the whole a e s t h e t i c is basically a non-ocean themed version of Seapunk stuff that was around like 4 years ago right?

I had to google seapunk because I'd never heard of that term. Seems similar though.

Seapunk though, what a loving word.

Seapunk:

John Liver
May 4, 2009

im givin up



on tryin



to sell you things



that you aint buyin

Ferrule
Feb 23, 2007

Yo!

88h88 posted:

I loved that virtually all the game cases had this aesthetic. So good. You knew instantly from half a mile away which system it was for.



That's called "Package Design 101".

sector_corrector
Jan 18, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

Stinky_Pete posted:

I haven't. Link?

Also, shout-out to the James Ferarro thread in NMD, and while the Far Side Virtual album cover uses more modern elements, this music video owns for rear end dead dick (thx fjc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNhP6aoP6XY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF9Tu35-pBo

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Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

Doakes posted:

Anyone know what software is used for stuff like this? Its really cool

Lord Lambeth posted:

Probably Maya. It's one of those programs that's goddamn everywhere.

Either Maya or Blender. Plus some other editing software probably from Adobe to add effects like film grain for the Capricorn cinegram.

Also, the short film Kung Fury doesn't fit this aesthetic, but I'm reminded that there is a parallel style/theme exploited by that and Hotline Miami that focuses on a specific part of 80s entertainment media (as opposed to consumer product comm). Yet the Venn diagram of the 'Miami nights' style and this vaporcraft(?) basically just has VHS, skylines, and grids of lazerz at the center.


field balm posted:

What I recognise as the first 'big' vaporwave thing is this track by blank banshee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGT3tmZJ5s. Importantly, it is sampled pretty much wholesale from a track from Donkey Kong Country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4XCk2HFdNc.
Likewise I assume most of the visuals in the video are made using the stock assets in some kind of early 3d animation software.

Awesome, thanks for palimpsest link, and this music video is dank. That's a lot like an experimental game I want to make as a spiritual successor to LSD: Dream Emulator. I just have no background in modeling or animation, so every time I open up Unity I have no assets to write scripts about and just spin my wheels or give up. If anyone wants to collaborate I have plenty of ideas.

Also, here's some source material straight out of 1990 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbG34c1qorQ, really good background for blazing

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