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City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

The Taint Reaper posted:

I think Hillary is going to jail or at the very least her campain will be nixed by the FBI.

Watch bloomberg run as a democrat

The world can't afford to have America be socialist. I think george orwell's take on socialists is pretty apt, 100 years later they're still in the same position and they still act the same.

she could straight-up kill a dude and Obama's FBI or DOJ wouldn't touch her.

She's as teflon as she could ever hope to be right now because the fuckers that own Obama are the same fuckers that are funding her campaign and they are not going to let her lose so that some socialist jew can ruin their rigged game

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AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx

City of Tampa posted:

I don't care if he does both, yeah spend all the money you can on stupid poo poo that will never work like the F35 if the only alternative is to give it to rich people as tax breaks. Engineers and machinists need jobs too.

At least Bernie would consider social programs. Bernie is pretty much the only person in the race that will even say the word "poverty". He's a good dude and I think he might do good things if given the chance. (that's why he will probably never get the chance)

How simplistic can you get dude? The government doesn't send rich people checks, rich people are rich because they are shrewd and do what is necessary to earn money and hold on to it. If anyone actually ever makes good on the impossible promise of "closing the loopholes", people will just move their money and, if necessary, themselves abroad. The insane taxes he's proposing will hit the middle class and nobody else.

Dr. Carwash
Sep 16, 2006

Senpai...

AugmentedVision posted:

Romney might have been fine honestly

lmao yea the supreme court would look great right now if mittens was prez

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

City of Tampa posted:

she could straight-up kill a dude and Obama's FBI or DOJ wouldn't touch her.

She's as teflon as she could ever hope to be right now because the fuckers that own Obama are the same fuckers that are funding her campaign and they are not going to let her lose so that some socialist jew can ruin their rigged game

I'm not really sure, I'm definitely detecting a real loss of control with the people who tend to be in power.

Even the stock market and financial guys don't really have a solid clue to what could happen. There really is no narrative at this point because the dead gay system keeps getting upset. If we get more candidates like Trump or Sanders, or if both of them keep causing trouble it's going to break things like all the old lobbying groups and PACs.

If things continue as they are we're going to get to the point where the political people who tend to be in the background are going to rear their head and that's when things will explode. Things like self funding candidates or public funded ones are the bane of political parties.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

AugmentedVision posted:

How simplistic can you get dude? The government doesn't send rich people checks, rich people are rich because they are shrewd and do what is necessary to earn money and hold on to it. If anyone actually ever makes good on the impossible promise of "closing the loopholes", people will just move their money and, if necessary, themselves abroad. The insane taxes he's proposing will hit the middle class and nobody else.

The government giving tax breaks to rich people is the same as sending them a check.it's the same exact thing.

lots of countries have lower tax rates than America and rich people aren't moving there yet, I think that we should call their bluff. rich people would do better owning a smaller percentage of a growing and healthy economy than they do owning a huge percentage of a dead economy anyway

And who cares about the middle class? I'm not middle class I'm white trash. gently caress the middle class. Those are the fuckers that sold us all out anyway for their lovely suburban Mcmansion homes and 401ks based on smoke and mirrors. How'd that work out? lol

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

City of Tampa posted:

The government giving tax breaks to rich people is the same as sending them a check.it's the same exact thing.

It isn't because most of those tax breaks are for businesses and those tend to give other people jobs and a means of establishing themselves and their families.

Like look at all the poo poo that Texas did to attract different businesses the state alone is within the top 20 economies in the world. People are doing well for themselves in the area and it doesn't have the crazed property values like in coastal states.

Austin is probably the exception, but gently caress those guys.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

The Taint Reaper posted:

It isn't because most of those tax breaks are for businesses and those tend to give other people jobs and a means of establishing themselves and their families.

Like look at all the poo poo that Texas did to attract different businesses the state alone is within the top 20 economies in the world. People are doing well for themselves in the area and it doesn't have the crazed property values like in coastal states.

Austin is probably the exception, but gently caress those guys.

taint reaped again

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx

City of Tampa posted:

The government giving tax breaks to rich people is the same as sending them a check.it's the same exact thing.

lots of countries have lower tax rates than America and rich people aren't moving there yet, I think that we should call their bluff. rich people would do better owning a smaller percentage of a growing and healthy economy than they do owning a huge percentage of a dead economy anyway

And who cares about the middle class? I'm not middle class I'm white trash. gently caress the middle class. Those are the fuckers that sold us all out anyway for their lovely suburban Mcmansion homes and 401ks based on smoke and mirrors. How'd that work out? lol

There isn't an entry in the budget for "tax breaks for rich people". The economy isn't "dead", it's doing fine. I'm happy that social spending would help you, but the economy can't run on poor people alone. In fact, if the tax code was geared entirely towards helping poor people, that's when the economy would indeed be "dead".

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

Tony Homo posted:

Last I heard Isis and them Muslims were killing all sorts of innocent people.

Obama should probably stop helping them recruit then.








Kitchner posted:

Should have seen him explode when I proved that, purely legally speaking, Bush and Blair couldn't be tried for war crimes, and therefore are not "war criminals" regardless of how we judge the morality of their actions.

The next 3 pages of death threats were funny at first but then they got boring so he's one of the few people I've bothered to put on ignore.


lol

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

The Taint Reaper posted:

It isn't because most of those tax breaks are for businesses and those tend to give other people jobs and a means of establishing themselves and their families.

Like look at all the poo poo that Texas did to attract different businesses the state alone is within the top 20 economies in the world. People are doing well for themselves in the area and it doesn't have the crazed property values like in coastal states.

Austin is probably the exception, but gently caress those guys.

jobs aren't a gift from rich people they are created by demand for goods and services and nothing else

What Texas did was create some scam so that you could take your existing business and rename it slightly (or something like that) and declare it to be a newly created business that is exempt from state taxes for X number of years, and then Republicans in Texas could go "look at all the new businesses!" Nobody is moving their companies to a state full of retarded desert rednecks


AugmentedVision posted:

There isn't an entry in the budget for "tax breaks for rich people". The economy isn't "dead", it's doing fine. I'm happy that social spending would help you, but the economy can't run on poor people alone. In fact, if the tax code was geared entirely towards helping poor people, that's when the economy would indeed be "dead".

our stock market is 100% fake nonsense that is going to collapse any day, and our economy has been entirely dedicated to loving poor people at home and abroad for like 40 years now.
most of the money that used to be contained in the "middle class" is now in the hands of the 1%. We don't have to gear the entire economy to helping poor people but we do need to acknowledge that poor people exist and that there are more of them every day because of decisions made by our government (as captured by the rich). we are going backwards and that's unsustainable

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx

City of Tampa posted:

our stock market is 100% fake nonsense that is going to collapse any day, and our economy has been entirely dedicated to loving poor people at home and abroad for like 40 years now.
most of the money that used to be contained in the "middle class" is now in the hands of the 1%. We don't have to gear the entire economy to helping poor people but we do need to acknowledge that poor people exist and that there are more of them every day because of decisions made by our government (as captured by the rich). we are going backwards and that's unsustainable

Show me a period in modern history when this was false, barring an extreme event like postwar recovery.

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

City of Tampa posted:

jobs aren't a gift from rich people they are created by demand for goods and services and nothing else


And that's perfectly fine, they hire people for their expanding companies and pay them.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

City of Tampa posted:

our stock market is 100% fake nonsense that is going to collapse any day, and our economy has been entirely dedicated to loving poor people at home and abroad for like 40 years now.

I was actually reading your posts until I hit this line.

You're kind of dumb.

Unless you were kidding.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

AugmentedVision posted:

Show me a period in modern history when this was false, barring an extreme event like postwar recovery.

post WW2 to the early 1970s.

(show me a non-wartime period in modern American history that couldn't be described as "postwar")

Tony Homo
Oct 30, 2014

by zen death robot

Agag posted:

Obama should probably stop helping them recruit then.



lol

So if we just ignore them ISIS will see the error of their ways and turn a new leaf?

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Tony Homo posted:

So if we just ignore them ISIS will see the error of their ways and turn a new leaf?

95% of ISIS attacks are on other muslims, Obama can't even deal with the remaining 5% of the attacks which are deadly publicity stunts for terrorist PR campaigns.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
:gas: this thread like an un-person.

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx

Tony Homo posted:

So if we just ignore them ISIS will see the error of their ways and turn a new leaf?

lol just lol if you believe ISIS is a threat

literally tricked by branding

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

AugmentedVision posted:

lol just lol if you believe ISIS is a threat

literally tricked by branding

They are a threat, how are they not a threat?

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

GORDON posted:

I was actually reading your posts until I hit this line.

You're kind of dumb.

Unless you were kidding.

yeah it's totally normal and makes complete sense that our stock market is back to pre-2008 crash levels, and this definitely isn't the boom-bust-boom-bust cycle that happened continuously until banking reform was enacted at the end of the great depression (and then was repealed by Clinton creating this mess all over again)

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot
the time to buy is when blood is in the streets

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

The Taint Reaper posted:

They are a threat, how are they not a threat?

they are a threat if they can get into a car and drive to where you are.

they do not pose a threat to America

AugmentedVision
Feb 17, 2011

by exmarx
There must always be a bogeyman to justify funneling money to military contractors.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



The Taint Reaper posted:

It isn't because most of those tax breaks are for businesses and those tend to give other people jobs and a means of establishing themselves and their families.

Like look at all the poo poo that Texas did to attract different businesses the state alone is within the top 20 economies in the world. People are doing well for themselves in the area and it doesn't have the crazed property values like in coastal states.

Austin is probably the exception, but gently caress those guys.

Just when I thought my taint couldn't be reaped any harder.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

City of Tampa posted:

yeah it's totally normal and makes complete sense that our stock market is back to pre-2008 crash levels, and this definitely isn't the boom-bust-boom-bust cycle that happened continuously until banking reform was enacted at the end of the great depression (and then was repealed by Clinton creating this mess all over again)

When you say something like, "our stock market is 100% fake nonsense" it reminds me of a hardcore christian embracing creationism because they don't know a single thing about evolution.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

GORDON posted:

When you say something like, "our stock market is 100% fake nonsense" it reminds me of a hardcore christian embracing creationism because they don't know a single thing about evolution.

it is 100% fake nonsense though and this is gibbis

also evolution is the devil's work

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax

gently caress the ROW posted:

the time to buy is when blood is in the streets

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

City of Tampa posted:

it is 100% fake nonsense though and this is gibbis

also evolution is the devil's work

Starting to think that being white trash is a choice......

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

City of Tampa posted:


they do not pose a threat to America

Then why is the NYPD and FBI spending so much time busting these fools on US soil?

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

Tony Homo posted:

So if we just ignore them ISIS will see the error of their ways and turn a new leaf?


Terrorism has only proliferated since 9/11, better keep doing the same things that have allowed it to grow unchecked. It doesn't get any results and costs a fortune and makes the US look both evil and incompetent, but racists on the Internet think its funny so keep it up.

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

The Taint Reaper posted:

Then why is the NYPD and FBI spending so much time busting these fools on US soil?

yeah gimme half an hour and I'll find some American retard on twitter that loves Isis too

oh no these guys are such a serious threat look i just stopped a terror attack

Kitchner
Nov 9, 2012

IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER
Clapping Larry
If Bernie was President Congress would not pass any of his laws and he would die half way through his term as president.

If I were a Bernie supporter I'd be looking very closely at his VP because they are probably going to end up president.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax
He should make someone cool his running mate, like Ice Cube or someone.

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Premeditated Toast
Apr 24, 2008

Same as it ever was.

Big Beef City posted:

GBS, angered by Obama's "Too right, centrist, socialist, do-nothing policies" mobilizes en masse to state "I don't vote, it's pointless."

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