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Pretty much existing, refusing to do anything other than list the atrocities committed against the people and animals living in the Americas before the Europeans turned up en mass, assassinating democratically elected officials in a bid to get American friendly ones in their place overseas, actually, this could go on for a while, so I'll just stick with "existing"
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its not about the ones now, but rather the ones we will commit in the future 
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Jan 31, 2016 12:53
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Either the whole injuns thing or GRIDS propaganda.
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Jan 31, 2016 12:56
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thathonkey posted:it's not a physical "great wall" but we have effectively built up border defenses and patrols to the point where it is. I can't wait to spend billions of dollars on eradicating a source of labour large sectors of our economy are critically dependent on that's a much better use of resources than expanding our education system to meet the country's needs, or repairing our crumbling infrastructure
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Jan 31, 2016 13:04
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thathonkey posted:yeah it has to be something we've done to japan. especially since the impetus for all of our decisions there were "eh it's totally ok to kill civilians now we've decided in modern warfare to explicitly target civilians in order to expedite the end of the war... PS: all their homes are made of literal paper lol need i say more ? ok go kill them all now"
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Jan 31, 2016 13:13
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All of them.
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Jan 31, 2016 14:12
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I'm Crap posted:counterpoint: if anybody in history was ever asking for it, it was those guys 1. it was not the civilians planning and carrying out these atrocities (unless you argue that those conscripted are responsible) 2. what the nazis did was worse
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Jan 31, 2016 14:16
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indirectly causing Japan to create anime
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Jan 31, 2016 14:18
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Enabling fat privilege instead of publicly shaming them in the street is the USA's greatest crime against humanity. Also rectal hydration I guess.
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Jan 31, 2016 14:23
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thathonkey posted:1. it was not the civilians planning and carrying out these atrocities (unless you argue that those conscripted are responsible) 1. an undeniable portion of the population of Japan were complicit in their government's crimes. the Japanese press didn't run serial stories like the "contest to kill one hundred people with a sword" because they were unpopular. 2. the germans may have hosed things up but at least they tried.
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Jan 31, 2016 14:33
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:1. an undeniable portion of the population of Japan were complicit in their government's crimes. the Japanese press didn't run serial stories like the "contest to kill one hundred people with a sword" because they were unpopular. 1. this is fair and true-ish enough statement but supporting your government's horrible acts is not tantamount to actually carrying out those acts. like they probably didn't deserve to be fire-bombed just for following agreeing with emperor. military is one thing but general populace i cant really lay much blame on. 2. they tried what? ethnic cleansing?
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Jan 31, 2016 14:35
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thathonkey posted:it's quite bad. in most parts of the country you could live your whole life and see less than a dozen native americans im currently loving a navajo that was born and raised in the arizona reservation... it's depressing as gently caress whenever he talks about it because the living conditions out there suck for most of the people. they're still in the hard labor pioneer stages of "work to live" instead of "earning a living". dilapidated unhealthy houses that require pumping your own water and chopping your own wood for heat (in a desert with not enough water or wood), you're lucky if your car runs well enough to get you to the hospital (that's an hour away), farming is hard because the land is such poo poo... but at least you get a loving mountain on your property!!!
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thathonkey posted:1. it was not the civilians planning and carrying out these atrocities (unless you argue that those conscripted are responsible) 2. only in terms of numbers, also they received similar treatment and it was deserved in their case too
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Jan 31, 2016 15:07
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I'm Crap posted:counterpoint: if anybody in history was ever asking for it, it was those guys counter counter point: the japanese were just doing the same colonial poo poo in asia that the europeans had been doing there for hundreds of years.
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Jan 31, 2016 15:20
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Coin flip between the brutalization of Africans and the brutalization of Native Americans.thathonkey posted:probably nuking several hundred thousand japanese targets mostly civilian LOL if this even makes your Top Ten.
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Jan 31, 2016 15:25
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Closing down most Luby's Cafeteria locations.
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Jan 31, 2016 15:51
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Hector Beerlioz posted:What's your favorite atrocity committed by the United States of America, the greatest nation ever? lol @ not having hiroshima + nagasaki in the OP.
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Jan 31, 2016 15:54
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"The Trail or Tears" should have been called "The Trail of Pussies". Invent guns you dummies!
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Jan 31, 2016 15:55
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Blistex posted:"The Trail or Tears" should have been called "The Trail of Pussies". the concept of gunpowder and metalworking was not beyond natives in 1839, what they failed to invent was Imperialism
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Jan 31, 2016 15:57
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Blistex posted:"The Trail or Tears" should have been called "The Trail of Pussies". Wouldn't work, Old Hickory already had several bullets in him and it didn't stop him. He may have been a Terminator.
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Jan 31, 2016 15:58
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thathonkey posted:1. this is fair and true-ish enough statement but supporting your government's horrible acts is not tantamount to actually carrying out those acts. like they probably didn't deserve to be fire-bombed just for following agreeing with emperor. military is one thing but general populace i cant really lay much blame on. 1. fair, I more or less agree. 2. yes.
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Jan 31, 2016 16:01
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Rutibex posted:the concept of gunpowder and metalworking was not beyond natives in 1839, what they failed to invent was Imperialism By 1839 it was waaaaaaay too late. I'm talking about meeting the Mayflower with a volley of lead. You don't let those Euros get a beach-head. The Natives should have constructed an Atlantic Wall to protect
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Blistex posted:By 1839 it was waaaaaaay too late. I'm talking about meeting the Mayflower with a volley of lead. You don't let those Euros get a beach-head. The Natives should have constructed an Atlantic Wall to protect if the native americans had the initiative of the Romans, they would have captured the Santa Maria and all tools/weapons, copied the design, then sailed back to Europe and conquered them instead
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Jan 31, 2016 16:26
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Rutibex posted:if the native americans had the initiative of the Romans, they would have captured the Santa Maria and all tools/weapons, copied the design, then sailed back to Europe and conquered them instead the savages lacked the ingenuity of the white man tho and met the fate Jesus ordained for them
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if you put the nukes in your list but not the firebombings you're probably retarded
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Rutibex posted:counter counter point: the japanese were just doing the same colonial poo poo in asia that the europeans had been doing there for hundreds of years.
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Jan 31, 2016 16:27
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the invasion of iraq sure was a good idea.
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I'm Crap posted:that's how they tried to justify it both at the time and afterwards, but in practice the japanese were way, way more insanely brutal and bloodthirsty than the europeans. they were able to rack up incredible amounts of dead asians that put the euros and americans to shame in just a few short years as a colonial power it's just colonialism with asian values 
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Jan 31, 2016 16:31
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The singer's Howard Stern interview is totally worth the listen. https://youtu.be/cahs0_CthVI
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I'm Crap posted:that's how they tried to justify it both at the time and afterwards, but in practice the japanese were way, way more insanely brutal and bloodthirsty than the europeans. they were able to rack up incredible amounts of dead asians that put the euros and americans to shame in just a few short years as a colonial power there are more asians tho its simple proportions
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It's kind of obscure but I'm found of the Aleutian evacuation and internment where the US government stuck my tribe in camps to protect them from the Japanese attack on Alaska. They didn't have adequate food, shelter or medicine so we lost 23% of our population. My grandma had been adopted by a white family so her folks didn't have to evacuate and after surviving the camp her home wasn't ransacked unlike most of the other Aleut's.TacticalUrbanHomo posted:1. an undeniable portion of the population of Japan were complicit in their government's crimes. the Japanese press didn't run serial stories like the "contest to kill one hundred people with a sword" because they were unpopular. Nanjing was so hosed up with Japanese rape gangs, who had orders to kill the women they raped to prevent unpleasant reminders, that the Chinese sent their girls to hide out at the Nazi embassy and the German Ambassador stayed up for three days straight trying to prevent Japanese troops from scaling the walls and abducting women to rape.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:Nanjing was so hosed up with Japanese rape gangs, who had orders to kill the women they raped to prevent unpleasant reminders, that the Chinese sent their girls to hide out at the Nazi embassy and the German Ambassador stayed up for three days straight trying to prevent Japanese troops from scaling the walls and abducting women to rape. wars are won on full stomachs and empty balls
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Jan 31, 2016 17:18
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Orkin Mang posted:
Aiden 
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Jan 31, 2016 17:27
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If they hadn't brutalized the Native Americans then we woulda never got the Iron Madden Run To The Hills video so that I guess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiTE4mLwda8
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Jan 31, 2016 17:30
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Mambo No. 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK_LN3XEcnw
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Jan 31, 2016 17:31
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:It's kind of obscure but I'm found of the Aleutian evacuation and internment where the US government stuck my tribe in camps to protect them from the Japanese attack on Alaska. They didn't have adequate food, shelter or medicine so we lost 23% of our population. 
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Jan 31, 2016 17:34
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he's german
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Jan 31, 2016 17:35
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:It's kind of obscure but I'm found of the Aleutian evacuation and internment where the US government stuck my tribe in camps to protect them from the Japanese attack on Alaska. Didn't the US lose some troops when they retook the Aleutians? Despite there being no Japanese there.
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