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Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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I'm making this thread after talking to a literally mentally ill person yesterday and wondering "How do they hold this belief despite overwhelming, and even self-verifiable evidence?"

I mentioned having a family friend who was an astronaut. This person then told me how NASA is a lie and the Earth is flat. I proceeded to be a normal person and exited the conversation ASAP while maintaining a polite demeanor because this person is a possible client for my office. But then I started wishing I could have asked themn "Then how do you explain time zones and analemma?" Because now the thought of whatever cookoo bullshit they came up with would probably be a real hoot to hear.

So, GBS, what crazy rear end theories have you heard and what was the reasoning you have heard for them?

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dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
the earth is actually hollow, OP

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social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



i heard that u were a good poster op

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


someone said your posting was good and I just started nodding along while they talked about Bayesian probability, admiralty law and the symbolism in The Shining

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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social vegan posted:

i heard that u were a good poster op

That one isn't even defensible imo

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
generally i start trying to suck my own dick

LadyAmbien
Oct 22, 2015

Booblord Zagats posted:

I'm making this thread after talking to a literally mentally ill person yesterday and wondering "How do they hold this belief despite overwhelming, and even self-verifiable evidence?"

I mentioned having a family friend who was an astronaut. This person then told me how NASA is a lie and the Earth is flat. I proceeded to be a normal person and exited the conversation ASAP while maintaining a polite demeanor because this person is a possible client for my office. But then I started wishing I could have asked themn "Then how do you explain time zones and analemma?" Because now the thought of whatever cookoo bullshit they came up with would probably be a real hoot to hear.

So, GBS, what crazy rear end theories have you heard and what was the reasoning you have heard for them?

Wasn't some rapper trying to make claims via Twitter that the earth is flat earlier last week? Or am I making this up in my sleep-deprived brain?

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
it probably would've been aliens at area 51 but after the last week it's literally anything a sovereign citizen says

haris pilton
Sep 4, 2014
Tia tequila thinks the earth is flat

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



LadyAmbien posted:

Wasn't some rapper trying to make claims via Twitter that the earth is flat earlier last week? Or am I making this up in my sleep-deprived brain?

ya his name is Snow

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK

LadyAmbien posted:

Wasn't some rapper trying to make claims via Twitter that the earth is flat earlier last week? Or am I making this up in my sleep-deprived brain?

That was B.O.B. who did a song about it where he also said Stalin was worse than Hitler and that's when I knew he was legit.

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



There's actually a scientific article explaining how even otherwise reasonably intelligent people fall for blantly bullshit conspiracy theories and stuff like the flat earth thing. It's basically a brain glitch.

And of course the more facts you list to prove your point the more they'll say "those facts and scientific studies are lies" because the only way they have to back up their arguments is to plug their ears and scream like a child

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
flat earth theory gets especially weird when it isn't "hey the earth is flat" but also "there are government agents who will kill you if you try walk past the giant walls of Antarctica"

reallivedinosaur
Jun 13, 2012

Ogdober subrise! XDDD

LadyAmbien posted:

Wasn't some rapper trying to make claims via Twitter that the earth is flat earlier last week? Or am I making this up in my sleep-deprived brain?

Both he and Neil deGrasse Tyson fell for the flat earth troll in a big way.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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Cuckoo posted:

There's actually a scientific article explaining how even otherwise reasonably intelligent people fall for blantly bullshit conspiracy theories and stuff like the flat earth thing. It's basically a brain glitch.

And of course the more facts you list to prove your point the more they'll say "those facts and scientific studies are lies" because the only way they have to back up their arguments is to plug their ears and scream like a child

This is an excellent summary of how I make love

LadyAmbien posted:

Wasn't some rapper trying to make claims via Twitter that the earth is flat earlier last week? Or am I making this up in my sleep-deprived brain?


I wanna say this was Ice-T on Law and Order just parroting what Richard Belzer had told him

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
oh man, can we talk about the "Russia tried to invade us with midgets and expermential aircraft and that is how area 51 happened" thing?

that is my favorite one

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

PBS Newshour posted:

oh man, can we talk about the "Russia tried to invade us with midgets and expermential aircraft and that is how area 51 happened" thing?

that is my favorite one

Please do, it sounds like a doozy!

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


old and busted: flat earth
the new hotness: concave earth

Drunken Baker
Feb 3, 2015

VODKA STYLE DRINK
I have a hardcore Jewish friend who claims Gregorian Chanting (and by that extension new age band Enigma) can conjure up demons who will possess your soul.

I bring up the fact she's Jewish because she says the demons are from Christian mythology. So how does that even work? Didn't Enigma get to number 1 in the charts? Are we ALL possessed by Christian demons now? Are only those of the Jewish faith safe? (Because there are no Jewish demons so I'm told.)

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Pretty sure B.O.B. is just trolling everyone. His manager probably saw how much attention ICP got from the magnet bullshit and decided to strike at the right time with the right client.

i can still taste him
Feb 16, 2003
Buglord
I think Anal Emma went to school with me.

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



ChogsEnhour posted:

I have a hardcore Jewish friend who claims Gregorian Chanting (and by that extension new age band Enigma) can conjure up demons who will possess your soul.

I bring up the fact she's Jewish because she says the demons are from Christian mythology. So how does that even work? Didn't Enigma get to number 1 in the charts? Are we ALL possessed by Christian demons now? Are only those of the Jewish faith safe? (Because there are no Jewish demons so I'm told.)

That's hilarious because Enigma is some of the most harmless fluffiest New Age music around and Sadness (the song with Gregorian chanting) sounds like cheesy porno music.

Sade, dis-moi, Sade, donnes-moaaAAAAAAGGGHHH :unsmigghh:

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

ChogsEnhour posted:

I have a hardcore Jewish friend who claims Gregorian Chanting (and by that extension new age band Enigma) can conjure up demons who will possess your soul.

I bring up the fact she's Jewish because she says the demons are from Christian mythology. So how does that even work? Didn't Enigma get to number 1 in the charts? Are we ALL possessed by Christian demons now? Are only those of the Jewish faith safe? (Because there are no Jewish demons so I'm told.)

Well of course not. Demons are Buddhist. I read it in a Chinese News Release.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

Booblord Zagats posted:

Please do, it sounds like a doozy!

so annie jacobsen wrote a book, called Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base. The main hook of this book is basically "hey we are going to give you a rational explanation to what is really going on at Area 51."

annie jacobsen went on NPR to talk about her book.

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/17/136356848/area-51-uncensored-was-it-ufos-or-the-ussr

this is 46 minutes long, but its amazing. it starts out seemingly normal, and suddenly gets insane. you can tell the interviewer didn't exactly knew what she was getting into, and you can hear the stress in her voice once she realizes "i have to continue interviewing this person for another 20 minutes"

dad gay. so what
Feb 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

PBS Newshour posted:

so annie jacobsen wrote a book, called Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base. The main hook of this book is basically "hey we are going to give you a rational explanation to what is really going on at Area 51."

annie jacobsen went on NPR to talk about her book.

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/17/136356848/area-51-uncensored-was-it-ufos-or-the-ussr

this is 46 minutes long, but its amazing. it starts out seemingly normal, and suddenly gets insane. you can tell the interviewer didn't exactly knew what she was getting into, and you can hear the stress in her voice once she realizes "i have to continue interviewing this person for another 20 minutes"

thanks, mr. craps!

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
A while back I stupidly got into a debate with some guy about the "electric universe" theory, particularly about the part where the sun apparently has a solid iron surface and there's a conspiracy in the "mainstream" science communities to edit images of the sun so people can't see the surface. He proves this by editing the edited pictures in photoshop to "undo" the coverup and still to this day hosts a website talking about it.

The annoying thing with some of these people is they are relatively well-spoken and seem reasonable at first so they lure you in to debating it honestly, but as you go deeper and deeper they start leaking insanity until the argument devolves into them accusing you of being a government shill/plant and will just dig their feet in and say "prove that I'm wrong" until you give up.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
You sound like the crazy person, trying to impose a viewpoint on a stranger. If your point is so universal and easily verifiable then why do you need to go to such pains to convince other people? Sounds like you are trying to seek validity to your potential delusional line of thought, and if it's a particular neurosis surrounding that thought then you might have become obsessed with alleviating the pain of your rational mind trying to intervene by building up a pathological scheme to rationally override apparent facts to the contrary, and potentially forming rituals that involve imparting that mindset on others. Be careful with certainty, it may not exist philsophically, and everyone's viewpoint may have a glimmer of poetic truth to it whether based in reality or fantasy.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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ClamdestineBoyster posted:

You sound like the crazy person, trying to impose a viewpoint on a stranger. If your point is so universal and easily verifiable then why do you need to go to such pains to convince other people? Sounds like you are trying to seek validity to your potential delusional line of thought, and if it's a particular neurosis surrounding that thought then you might have become obsessed with alleviating the pain of your rational mind trying to intervene by building up a pathological scheme to rationally override apparent facts to the contrary, and potentially forming rituals that involve imparting that mindset on others. Be careful with certainty, it may not exist philsophically, and everyone's viewpoint may have a glimmer of poetic truth to it whether based in reality or fantasy.

Yeah, yeah we all read Nietzsche's poo poo in Sophomore year,. Go to a The Cure concert about it or whatever you kids do now when dealing with this kinda stuff

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

You sound like the crazy person, trying to impose a viewpoint on a stranger. If your point is so universal and easily verifiable then why do you need to go to such pains to convince other people? Sounds like you are trying to seek validity to your potential delusional line of thought, and if it's a particular neurosis surrounding that thought then you might have become obsessed with alleviating the pain of your rational mind trying to intervene by building up a pathological scheme to rationally override apparent facts to the contrary, and potentially forming rituals that involve imparting that mindset on others. Be careful with certainty, it may not exist philsophically, and everyone's viewpoint may have a glimmer of poetic truth to it whether based in reality or fantasy.

Actually quite in agreement with this. Certainty is overrated. Of course certainties like 'The Sun is in fact a supermassive mechanical grow-lamp.' seem quite a bit more unlikely still.

The joke'll be on us though when a fuse goes out and we die in a global freeze. Our only hope will be that the Hollow Earth faithful were on to something as well. But do we have the technical aptitude to hijack the impractically-placed spaceport?

Someone should get on this.

ClamdestineBoyster
Aug 15, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Booblord Zagats posted:

Yeah, yeah we all read Nietzsche's poo poo in Sophomore year,. Go to a The Cure concert about it or whatever you kids do now when dealing with this kinda stuff

I'm not a nihilist, I just don't think most of the things people think can be explained with logical language.

LadyAmbien
Oct 22, 2015

PBS Newshour posted:

so annie jacobsen wrote a book, called Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base. The main hook of this book is basically "hey we are going to give you a rational explanation to what is really going on at Area 51."

annie jacobsen went on NPR to talk about her book.

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/17/136356848/area-51-uncensored-was-it-ufos-or-the-ussr

this is 46 minutes long, but its amazing. it starts out seemingly normal, and suddenly gets insane. you can tell the interviewer didn't exactly knew what she was getting into, and you can hear the stress in her voice once she realizes "i have to continue interviewing this person for another 20 minutes"

This is amazing! Thank you for sharing it.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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ClamdestineBoyster posted:

I'm not a nihilist, I just don't think most of the things people think can be explained with logical language.

Shh, I'm just trying to keep the spirit of the thread going by being belligerent to all opposing viewpoints

FishionMailed
Feb 2, 2014

by zen death robot

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

You sound like the crazy person, trying to impose a viewpoint on a stranger. If your point is so universal and easily verifiable then why do you need to go to such pains to convince other people? Sounds like you are trying to seek validity to your potential delusional line of thought, and if it's a particular neurosis surrounding that thought then you might have become obsessed with alleviating the pain of your rational mind trying to intervene by building up a pathological scheme to rationally override apparent facts to the contrary, and potentially forming rituals that involve imparting that mindset on others. Be careful with certainty, it may not exist philsophically, and everyone's viewpoint may have a glimmer of poetic truth to it whether based in reality or fantasy.

yeah except i can show you the radius of the earth with some simple trigonometry and a stopwatch and these dudes have some maps that look like the etchings of Middle Earth I did as a nerdy middle schooler

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Booblord Zagats posted:

I wanna say this was Ice-T on Law and Order just parroting what Richard Belzer had told him

To be fair to Belzer, Hulk Hogan gave him CTE

LadyAmbien
Oct 22, 2015

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

You sound like the crazy person, trying to impose a viewpoint on a stranger. If your point is so universal and easily verifiable then why do you need to go to such pains to convince other people? Sounds like you are trying to seek validity to your potential delusional line of thought, and if it's a particular neurosis surrounding that thought then you might have become obsessed with alleviating the pain of your rational mind trying to intervene by building up a pathological scheme to rationally override apparent facts to the contrary, and potentially forming rituals that involve imparting that mindset on others. Be careful with certainty, it may not exist philsophically, and everyone's viewpoint may have a glimmer of poetic truth to it whether based in reality or fantasy.

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welcome 2 Clown Town
Aug 1, 2006

GALAXY'S #2 SCULL*!

*scrunt skull

dad gay. so what posted:

the earth is actually hollow, OP



im the rainbow city hemorrhoid

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster
I like this new in-joke.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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VikingSkull posted:

To be fair to Belzer, Hulk Hogan gave him CTE

I misread as QTE and now I'm imagining a fun Hulk Hogan/Richard Belzer adventure game

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Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Booblord Zagats posted:

I misread as QTE and now I'm imagining a fun Hulk Hogan/Richard Belzer adventure game

first one to get choked out wins!

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