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I like the part where darts Vader keeps saying "whoops"
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Feb 3, 2016 16:20
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darts vader? hold on, i just got a great parody idea and lets just say its a 'bullseye'
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Feb 3, 2016 16:22
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Mozi posted:darts vader? hold on, i just got a great parody idea and lets just say its a 'bullseye'
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Feb 3, 2016 16:25
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If not bombarding Hoth from space bothers you don't ever watch Starship Troopers.
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Feb 3, 2016 16:30
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BigBoss posted:If not bombarding Hoth from space bothers you don't ever watch Starship Troopers.
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Feb 3, 2016 16:35
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Gorilla Salad posted:Why does Vader bitchchoke that guy for coming out of hyperspace too close to Hoth? Isn't that exactly what you want for a surprise attack? He came out too far from Hoth. In the actual dialogue, the line was "You came out of hyperspace too soon" not too close. The cowardly admiral didn't want to risk the fleet so dropped out far enough away that the rebels had time to get their poo poo together.
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Feb 3, 2016 16:38
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Applewhite posted:He came out too far from Hoth. In the actual dialogue, the line was "You came out of hyperspace too soon" not too close. The cowardly admiral didn't want to risk the fleet so dropped out far enough away that the rebels had time to get their poo poo together. he was a disgrace to the empire and his death was far quicker than he deserved. i would have put him in one of those trash compactors
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Feb 3, 2016 16:40
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bombard the base anyway, shield generators don't matter if the whole base is sinking into lava
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BigBoss posted:If not bombarding Hoth from space bothers you don't ever watch Starship Troopers. They actually conduct extensive airstrikes against the bugs, but the bugs' widespread network of tunnels make orbital bombardments ultimately ineffective. dad gay. so what posted:he was a disgrace to the empire and his death was far quicker than he deserved. i would have put him in one of those trash compactors It was nice of Vader to accept the other guy's apology, though. Applewhite fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Feb 3, 2016 16:43
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Clearly you've never occupied a population op. The point is to see them run in fear before you drop a jdam on them
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Feb 3, 2016 16:46
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Applewhite posted:It was nice of Vader to accept the other guy's apology, though. he is far more reasonable than people gave him credit for despite the tired old sterotype that sith only deal in absolutes
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poorlifedecision posted:Why don't Jedis just the clearly superior laser rifle? You could hit people from afar and still use the force. blasters fire encapsulated plasma not lasers, and discarding the lightsaber would leave a jedi defenceless against enemy blaster fire, and wookiees don't have the proper anatomy to speak galactic basic, idiot 
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Mad Monk posted:Obi-Wan Kenobi should have just let the giant eagles get rid of the ring, it would have been a lot easier. People always bring this up as some kind of smug counter point, but the truth is if they relied on the eagle the bad guys could have easily shot the damned things down. THEN what?
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roymorrison posted:Clearly you've never occupied a population op. The point is to see them run in fear before you drop a jdam on them Hearts and minds.
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Feb 3, 2016 16:50
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Bioshuffle posted:People always bring this up as some kind of smug counter point, but the truth is if they relied on the eagle the bad guys could have easily shot the damned things down. THEN what? Obi-Wan's plan still would have failed if Sméagol hadn't snatched the Ring from Luke at the last second and fallen down the exhaust port into the Death Star.
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Feb 3, 2016 16:51
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Bobert Bobertson posted:why are all the aliens really stupid looking? far better questions is why do so many of them have such improbably humanoid anatomy? why would any alien lifeform have a hand with five digits terminating in carpals adjoined to a radius and an ulna? there's not even any non-mammalian life on earth that has that.
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Bioshuffle posted:People always bring this up as some kind of smug counter point, but the truth is if they relied on the eagle the bad guys could have easily shot the damned things down. THEN what? yeaaa... the emperor would of seen the flying eagles from a mile away
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Feb 3, 2016 16:52
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should have just danced their way into hoth imo
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Applewhite posted:He came out too far from Hoth. In the actual dialogue, the line was "You came out of hyperspace too soon" not too close. The cowardly admiral didn't want to risk the fleet so dropped out far enough away that the rebels had time to get their poo poo together. Actually, the real dialogue is as follows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV2DLkDPwM8 [Darth Vader emerges from an egg-like meditation chamber to receive a report from General Maximilian Veers.] Darth Vader: What is it, General? Gen. Maximilian Veers: My Lord, the fleet has moved out of lightspeed. Com-Scan has detected an energy field protecting an area of the sixth planet of the Hoth system. The field is strong enough to deflect any bombardment. Darth Vader: [Angrily] The Rebels are alerted to our presence. Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too close to the system. Veers: He felt surprise was wiser— Darth Vader: He is as clumsy as he is stupid. General, prepare your troops for a surface attack.
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Why didn't the rebels just build a poo poo ton of shields. Seems invincible to me, after reading the first few posts
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:far better questions is why do so many of them have such improbably humanoid anatomy? why would any alien lifeform have a hand with five digits terminating in carpals adjoined to a radius and an ulna? there's not even any non-mammalian life on earth that has that. Probably because the same conditions which caused us to evolve into human shape in the first place were also responsible for us developing sentience, and that there's a good chance that other sentient life would arise under the same circumstances. Human brains were only able to get big enough to support our intellect because we stood erect, reducing our heat profile to the point where our circulatory system could keep a larger brain cool. We need limbs capable of fine manipulation in order to wield tools, and we need articulate voices capable of mimicking many sounds in order to convey complex language. Any sentient being in the universe will probably have some way of addressing those issues before it rises to sentience.
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If a Super Star Destroyer can't even glass a few square miles of a planet then what are they even good for?
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Feb 3, 2016 16:57
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destroying super stars, i would imagine, a significantly easier task
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Feb 3, 2016 16:58
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why don't they know that the death star bombing was an inside job? plasma can't melt exhaust ports sheeple
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Applewhite posted:Probably because the same conditions which caused us to evolve into human shape in the first place were also responsible for us developing sentience, and that there's a good chance that other sentient life would arise under the same circumstances. a sentient being would surely have things like an enlarged cortex (or analogous neural structure) and precision grip, but there's no way that the structure of these features would be virtually identical to ours. that is, they'd probably have some kind of skull, but it wouldn't consist of a cranium fused to a maxilla articulated to a mandible, and they'd have some kind of precision grip, maybe even hands, but those hands wouldn't be built the exact same way ours are.
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Germstore posted:If a Super Star Destroyer can't even glass a few square miles of a planet then what are they even good for? Typical military industrial complex boondoggles. 
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Feb 3, 2016 17:01
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Goddamn op is stupid as gently caress
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Germstore posted:If a Super Star Destroyer can't even glass a few square miles of a planet then what are they even good for? During the Clone Wars in the Battle of Umbara, general Krell describes the enemy missiles as having yields of "100 megatons" (roughly double that of the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated on Earth) yet when we see the missiles impact nearby a few minutes later, the explosive yield is clearly only a few thousand pounds at most. Obviously the Star Wars universe standard unit of explosive measurement is based on an explosive significantly weaker than TNT, suggesting they don't possess weapons capable of efficiently bombarding a large area.
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:a sentient being would surely have things like an enlarged cortex (or analogous neural structure) and precision grip, but there's no way that the structure of these features would be virtually identical to ours. that is, they'd probably have some kind of skull, but it wouldn't consist of a cranium fused to a maxilla articulated to a mandible, and they'd have some kind of precision grip, maybe even hands, but those hands wouldn't be built the exact same way ours are. Definitely not all of them would be identical to ours, but it's not such a stretch of the imagination that many of them still would, and that they'd be socially inclined to interact with one another over more "bizarre" morphologies. What we're seeing in Star Wars could represent a very small community of "humanoid" races that is only a fraction of the larger variety of species.
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Can we talk about how AT-AT would be the worst military vehicle to design in a universe where every other vehicle uses some sort of propulsion technology
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The rebels had a surface to sub orbit ion cannon but the empire can't shoot at the ground?
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Bioshuffle posted:Actually, the real dialogue is as follows. Yup. The idea would have been to send in stealth bombers, take out the shield generators, then send in the SDs to perform planetary carpet bombardment. Now, think of the shield as an umbrella. You need to land out past it's perimeter, walk under it, and blow up the shield generators. Really, though, the answer is 'just like the attack on the Death Star was intended to evoke WW2 dog fights and bombing runs, the attack on Hoth was intended to evoke WW2 tank assaults.' Note that the Rebels knew that this is exactly what Imperial doctrine would be, and were prepared for it; ground defenses including fixed artillery and trenches were in place, ground-attack fighters were ready, and ion cannons to disable orbiting capital ships. The REAL question is, why did the Imperial Navy not have swarms of TiEs out to fly combat air patrol and pick off escaping ships as they got past the shield? Why did AT-ATs not have anti-air turrets? And anti-personnel armaments on the undercarriage? For me, one of the best parts of the first NuTrek film was at the beginning, when the Kelvin goes into all-out combat mode, and just lights up with artillery, point defense, the whole nine yards. Not a single phaser beam and three proton torpedoes.
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thathonkey posted:Can we talk about how AT-AT would be the worst military vehicle to design in a universe where every other vehicle uses some sort of propulsion technology they could've at least taken from battletech and add jumpjets or gyros or make it not topple like a drat toddler, imo
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Applewhite posted:Definitely not all of them would be identical to ours, but it's not such a stretch of the imagination that many of them still would, and that they'd be socially inclined to interact with one another over more "bizarre" morphologies. What we're seeing in Star Wars could represent a very small community of "humanoid" races that is only a fraction of the larger variety of species. try yoga. you're stretching.
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new related question for the ages: ay tee ay tee or @ @?
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Maybe the Star Wars galaxy has had FTL travel for a million or so years and almost every intelligent species is descended from a single precursor race.SUBLIME! posted:new related question for the ages: ay tee ay tee or @ @? @@ seems more popular, but then how are you supposed to pronounce 'AT-ST'?
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Bioshuffle posted:Actually, the real dialogue is as follows. I stand corrected. Admiral Ozzel's plan should have worked.
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tbh there had to be rebel sympathy within the empire, how else would insurgents have won?
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SUBLIME! posted:new related question for the ages: ay tee ay tee or @ @? @ @ Bobert Bobertson posted:tbh there had to be rebel sympathy within the empire, how else would insurgents have won? If the celebration scene at the end of the remastered version of Return of the Jedi is to be believed, everyone in the Empire hated the Emperor except for the military.
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