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quote:TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Ali Shamkhani said a recent prisoner exchange between Iran and the US went ahead as planned despite calls by Republicans for a delay until US presidential elections. As Talking Points Memo points out, the media org that published this is essentially controlled by the Iranian Government, but it would be pretty unlikely for them to fabricate a quote from a high-ranking member of the government. So, that's sure a thing.
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evilweasel posted:http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2016/02/11/998130/us-republicans-had-urged-iran-to-delay-prisoner-swap-shamkhani-says lol Is Iran still officially hostile to the US so someone could literally hang for this?
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Feb 11, 2016 19:28
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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evilweasel posted:http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2016/02/11/998130/us-republicans-had-urged-iran-to-delay-prisoner-swap-shamkhani-says So the response from the right is "the Iranian Government is lying, then."
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Feb 11, 2016 19:30
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Well it worked for Reagan
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Feb 11, 2016 19:32
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I mean, no loving poo poo, but this won't move any needles because republicans will claim Iranians are full of poo poo.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:33
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Holy poo poo.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:34
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pathetic little tramp posted:I mean, no loving poo poo, but this won't move any needles because republicans will claim Iranians are full of poo poo. One of the people imprisoned was a Washington Post reporter. If there's any meat to this at all the media isn't going to let it drop. There's probably also a limited number of people it could have been.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:36
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Hold on....Republicans.......negotiated with Iran? 
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Feb 11, 2016 19:36
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didnt Nixon basically egg the South Vietnamese on to say 'gently caress peace' prior to the election
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Feb 11, 2016 19:37
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I really hope there's a paper trail for this. (There isn't, nobody's that stupid.)
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Feb 11, 2016 19:38
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go3 posted:didnt Nixon basically egg the South Vietnamese on to say 'gently caress peace' prior to the election It's believed he did, yeah. But the important thing is he didn't get caught.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:38
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Didn't Congressional Republicans send a letter to Iran telling them not to accept the nuclear deal, with a strong insinuation that the deal would not be honored by a Repub president? I'm not surprised at all.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:39
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go3 posted:didnt Nixon basically egg the South Vietnamese on to say 'gently caress peace' prior to the election And Reagan's people reportedly did the same thing with the hostages prior to the 1980 election.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:39
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evilweasel posted:It's believed he did, yeah. But the important thing is he didn't get caught. My understanding was that he was "caught" but they didn't pursue it because the evidence was a recording the NSA made from inside the North Vietnamese camp. They didn't want to reveal they had been spying on basically everything that went on.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:41
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Literally string up Republican leadership as traitors.
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Feb 11, 2016 19:53
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I hope they're holding on to some solid proof of this.
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Feb 11, 2016 20:08
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Didn't Congressional Republicans send a letter to Iran telling them not to accept the nuclear deal, with a strong insinuation that the deal would not be honored by a Repub president? I'm not surprised at all. Deki posted:I hope they're holding on to some solid proof of this.
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Feb 11, 2016 20:08
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Well, if the play has worked before I'm not surprised to see it getting hauled out again. 
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Feb 11, 2016 23:39
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:Well it worked for Reagan Iran could have taken their trolling to a new level by reminding everyone of the Reagan precedent in this release.
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Feb 11, 2016 23:55
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Whoever did this is monumentally dumb when you're saying both "We will not honor a nuclear deal and possibly invade you" and "Can you do us a solid and not release these hostages?"
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Feb 12, 2016 00:01
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New Division posted:Iran could have taken their trolling to a new level by reminding everyone of the Reagan precedent in this release. That's what this part is about : quote:a rally held in the central city of Yazd to mark the 37th anniversary of the 1979 Islamic Revolution’s victory. It's just a more subtle reminder.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:17
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I'm skeptical mostly because this is a turd telling another turd that it stinks. I wouldn't put it past the GOP to try and delay hostage release for political points but I also wouldn't put it past Iranian state television to make poo poo up to hurt the by-far more hawkish side in the US election.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:20
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It's feasible that this is just Iran trying to tarnish the Republican party because Iran doesn't want a party hostile to it in power over here, so this will amount to nothing unless they release quotes with names attached.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:21
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edit: beaten twice.evilweasel posted:http://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2016/02/11/998130/us-republicans-had-urged-iran-to-delay-prisoner-swap-shamkhani-says Given Republican stances toward Iran, undermining Republican presidential campaigns is drat good reason to fabricate that quote.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:22
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computer parts posted:And Reagan's people reportedly did the same thing with the hostages prior to the 1980 election. As I understood this wasn't the issue just that they loving hated Jimmy Carter and said they would release the prisoners the moment he was out of office?
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Feb 12, 2016 00:23
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size1one posted:Given Republican stances toward Iran, undermining Republican presidential campaigns is drat good reason to fabricate that quote. Sure, but it's an equally good reason to get the guy to just say the drat thing, which seems easier.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:24
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I regularly compare Republicans to cancer without a hint of hyperbole and even I think that this is something to be skeptical about.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:35
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Lote posted:Whoever did this is monumentally dumb when you're saying both "We will not honor a nuclear deal and possibly invade you" and "Can you do us a solid and not release these hostages?" There is only one man in Washington capable of pulling off that stupid poo poo
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Feb 12, 2016 00:38
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oh my god I completely forgot that Cotton et al sent that dumbfuck "LISSEN HERE MISTER AYATOLLAH, IN AMERICA WE GOT THIS THING CALLED 'THE RULE OF LAW'" letter through backchannels.
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Feb 12, 2016 00:41
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Okay, so does this just pertain to the people they'd had captive for longer, or does this also include the sailors that wandered into their waters?
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Feb 12, 2016 00:50
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paranoid randroid posted:oh my god I completely forgot that Cotton et al sent that dumbfuck "LISSEN HERE MISTER AYATOLLAH, IN AMERICA WE GOT THIS THING CALLED 'THE RULE OF LAW'" letter through backchannels. Let's bring back that block rocking beat: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/03/09/world/middleeast/document-the-letter-senate-republicans-addressed-to-the-leaders-of-iran.html
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Feb 12, 2016 01:07
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I regularly compare Republicans to cancer without a hint of hyperbole and even I think that this is something to be skeptical about. No poo poo, lets all wait for at least a shred of evidence instead of uncritically accepting Iranian propaganda at face value.
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Feb 12, 2016 01:20
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Even if this is true, what are the chances that anyone gets in trouble for it?
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Feb 12, 2016 01:22
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drilldo squirt posted:Even if this is true, what are the chances that anyone gets in trouble for it? If hard evidence were to come out, like irrefutable "Tom Cotton skyping with Iran saying 'hold onto those Americans in your deathcamp prisons until later'" evidence, there would be an immediate move to censure that senator/rep/etc, charges would be brought up instantly, and there would be a lot of speculation on whether the death penalty is appropriate. Anything that gives them 1% plausible deniability ("that phone call is forged!" "that telex is fake!"), will go nowhere.
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Feb 12, 2016 01:28
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gently caress Ronald Reagan & those Republicans responsible. That said, I think Iran and the United States should mend fences, and I'm glad Obama has been determined to argue for peace.
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Feb 12, 2016 01:31
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:No poo poo, lets all wait for at least a shred of evidence instead of uncritically accepting Iranian propaganda at face value.
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Feb 12, 2016 01:32
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personally im filing this one under Unlikely but Entirely Unsurprising If True
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Feb 12, 2016 01:35
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This doesn't pass the smell test at all, sounds like nonsense for public consumption in Iran on the eve of their elections. They just restricted some candidates so I imagine this is a way to change the news cycle there.
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Feb 12, 2016 01:36
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perhaps if i wish hard enough, some mischievous fairy will grant me my desire to see Tom Cotton trip on he own dick and turn this into a real occurence
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drilldo squirt posted:Even if this is true, what are the chances that anyone gets in trouble for it? Last time something like this happened there was a Very Serious Congressional Investigation with Very Serious People that took the combined might of the press and lobbyists to kill it.
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