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FutureFriend posted:its a constant thread with every sonic game that no matter how lovely they are eggman still owns Unironically one of the biggest problems with this game is that they replace eggman as the villain with some boring chucklefuck with a dipshit name
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TieTuesday posted:Unironically one of the biggest problems with this game is that they replace eggman as the villain with some boring chucklefuck with a dipshit name i mean its called the rise of lyric not the "chest day of eggman"
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Feb 23, 2016 22:31
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FutureFriend posted:its a constant thread with every sonic game that no matter how lovely they are eggman still owns This is the real reason that Sonic 06 is worse than this game, they gave Eggman a completely terrible redesign and try to play him straight instead of silly.
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Feb 23, 2016 22:42
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I feel like not applying the patches is sort of cheating, because while putting on the market a lovely game that needs patches is reprehensible, the finished product is unlikely to be good itself and it counts as the best that the studio could offer, so making fun of it feels more genuine. I consider this game better than Sonic '06 because it is at least occasionally funny
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Feb 23, 2016 22:45
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Ometeotl posted:This is the real reason that Sonic 06 is worse than this game, they gave Eggman a completely terrible redesign and try to play him straight instead of silly. that redesign is amazing if only for the fact that it looks like eggman has 6 golden nipples
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Feb 23, 2016 22:45
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paradoxGentleman posted:I feel like not applying the patches is sort of cheating, because while putting on the market a lovely game that needs patches is reprehensible, the finished product is unlikely to be good itself and it counts as the best that the studio could offer, so making fun of it feels more genuine. I cannot even parse the logic behind that first sentence. If I didn't have wifi, this is what they sold. I'm sure you could patch 06 to maybe playable, but just because the studio was rushed doesn't make the game unshit. Releasing a broken heap is releasing a broken heap. Conversely I think putting a poo poo game on the market and rushing out patches after is cheating. They sold this for $60 aimed at children I'm not gonna be fair to it. TieTuesday fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Feb 23, 2016 22:53
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FutureFriend posted:that redesign is amazing if only for the fact that it looks like eggman has 6 golden nipples Of all the design decisions from 2006, this was probably one of the weirdest ones to me. They didn't even make them look like buttons or anything, they looked like things you hook tubes up to
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FutureFriend posted:that redesign is amazing if only for the fact that it looks like eggman has 6 golden nipples Eggman and the 6 Golden Nipples is a criminally underrated gameboy title.
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Feb 23, 2016 22:55
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The reaction to seeing Shadow holy poo poo my loving ears. Also this: 
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Feb 23, 2016 22:57
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Oh and for the record my wii u immediately patched the game as soon as i connected online, without even giving me an option or having the game in. I wanted to do a small recording of like glitches and gallery stuff but hey gently caress me I guess. The games framerate is a tiny bit better but they took out like, the fun to exploit glitches. E:It downloaded the patch as soon as I connected, without launching or having the game in, it just remembered. I deleted the patch and it refused to start until I downloaded it again. Fuckin ridiculous protocol for patching my dendy.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:01
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The cutscenes look a lot like the animation in "Foodfight", where motion capture was used to awkwardly give movement to figures that should just have been animated.TieTuesday posted:Conversely I think putting a poo poo game on the market and rushing out patches after is cheating.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:07
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TieTuesday posted:I cannot even parse the logic behind that first sentence. If I didn't have wifi, this is what they sold. I'm sure you could patch 06 to maybe playable, but just because the studio was rushed doesn't make the game unshit. Releasing a broken heap is releasing a broken heap. Conversely I think putting a poo poo game on the market and rushing out patches after is cheating. Your points are perfectly valid, but mine is this: the finished game with all the patches is probably still poo poo, so why not mock that instead? They had time to fix the problems with their game, and it still sucked. That feels worse to me than rushing out a game when it's still in the early stages; it is notionally possible (although not at all likely, especially since we're talking about a Sonic game) that the problems with the game could have been fixed in the patches. Of course, I realize as I am typing this that your objective isn't to give a fair shake to this game but just make fun of it mercilessly. I still would have used the finished version, but I understand your point of view (especially the wi-fi and 60$ dollar thing). (60 dollars, holy poo poo, you can buy a Batman: Arkham Something with that money)
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This is going to come off as insensitive, but who the gently caress doesn't have wifi?
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Lizard Wizard posted:This is going to come off as insensitive, but who the gently caress doesn't have wifi? Yeah you clearly haven't lived in poorer and/or extremely rural areas. A lot of folk where I grew up still don't have internet and just go to the library for stuff, but their kids still play videogames. I know it seems wild!
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Lizard Wizard posted:This is going to come off as insensitive, but who the gently caress doesn't have wifi? Most of rural US, for starters.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:21
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TieTuesday posted:Yeah you clearly haven't lived in poorer and/or extremely rural areas. A lot of folk where I grew up still don't have internet and just go to the library for stuff, but their kids still play videogames. I know it seems wild! 
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Lizard Wizard posted:This is going to come off as insensitive, but who the gently caress doesn't have wifi? About two thirds of the planet.
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paradoxGentleman posted:I feel like not applying the patches is sort of cheating, because while putting on the market a lovely game that needs patches is reprehensible, the finished product is unlikely to be good itself and it counts as the best that the studio could offer, so making fun of it feels more genuine. Short answer: it's funnier Longer answer: the unpatched version focus tested well with our target demo and we here at TieTuesLLC feel that our dedication to the fans is really what sets us apart from other content creators. As always, feel free to shoot an email over to feedback@tietuesllc.tv with any comments/questions/marketing opportunities you feel are relevant to your Sanci Boom experience
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Ohhh boy, this game. I'm still trying to figure out what exactly it is about the cutscene direction that bothers me so much. There's something that's bugging me, sudden shifts from gameplay into them and stiff animation aside. Something with the camera?? Also no one ever shuts up in this game and it's awful. Yes, you like ring, we get it. There's a thing to jump on. We don't need a pointless quip for every instance of this, who thought this was an okay thing.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:46
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Dreamy Souffle posted:Ohhh boy, this game. I think it's because they're all soulless automatons coerced into imitating life and happiness.
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Sam Faust posted:I think it's because they're all soulless automatons coerced into imitating life and happiness.
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Sam Faust posted:I think it's because they're all soulless automatons coerced into imitating life and happiness. Seriously. I think the Showbiz Pizza Bear had less lifeless eyes.
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Five Nights at 'Nuckles
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Dreamy Souffle posted:Ohhh boy, this game. There's a lot to consider with regards to the cutscenes and their effectiveness. It's relatively inconsistent in the way they handle the animations, composition, and timing. It could have been handled better in all aspects, but what they do have does manage to tell the story even if it's a little rough. I don't know what might have occurred behind the scenes, but it does show that they reached more for good enough than great storytelling, which is unfortunate. Honestly, some of these scenes would only need a couple of tweaks for it to flow more smoothly and feel more alive. The running scenes, for example, would feel faster if they panned the background better. Also, stuff like there being a lack of secondary motion and a rather inactive camera in a good chunk of these scenes adds to the stiffness.
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Acne Rain posted:Five Nights at 'Nuckles Whatever you do, don't chuckle.
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Prav posted:eggman seems to have a buff V-shape, and isn't egg-shaped at all He actually is still egg shaped, it's just upside down now.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:24
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Sonic Boom is bad and slow and ugly. The writing isn't funny, the cutscenes are slow and ugly and everything about the game is incredibly cynical and awful.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Sonic Boom is bad and slow and ugly. The writing isn't funny, the cutscenes are slow and ugly and everything about the game is incredibly cynical and awful. Cynical is a really good word for it. It tries to be cute and genre aware like Gravity Falls but just never really does anything clever enough with it to sell it, so you're just left in a "haha it's fine to do trope if we reference doing trope, right" hole
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The only honest feeling joke was when Knuckles took a moment to figure out which side is left, and that's probably only because it's the first "Knuckles is dumb" joke and then they just beat the dead horse.
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At least Sonic 06 is relatively short, especially since a bunch of the levels are exactly the same, so you have them already memorized when you play as Shadow. Sonic Boom is the loving Iliad of Sonic games. Eggman is excellent in both games. I also have a soft spot for dumb Knucks
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Vicas posted:Cynical is a really good word for it. It tries to be cute and genre aware like Gravity Falls but just never really does anything clever enough with it to sell it, so you're just left in a "haha it's fine to do trope if we reference doing trope, right" hole It's that sort of very cheap self-awareness that you used to see all the time in lovely cartoons and internet comedy. Whoever was writing this phoned it in for sure.
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's that sort of very cheap self-awareness that you used to see all the time in lovely cartoons and internet comedy. Whoever was writing this phoned it in for sure. Hey now, let's not be unfair here They could just be bad at their job
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Danaru posted:At least Sonic 06 is relatively short, especially since a bunch of the levels are exactly the same, so you have them already memorized when you play as Shadow. Sonic Boom is the loving Iliad of Sonic games. I don't know, theres that desert level with Silver that took me about 40 goddamn minutes to do since the physics puzzles are loving bullshit and the last level of the game took me about an hour since spawning black holes that instant kill you on touch and occasionally fire projectiles are also bullshit. But yeah I guess the game is shorter when you know the routs/have internet.
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I wonder what is it that makes Sonic games so reliably terrible. Is it the knowledge that they can just cash in on the ever faithful Sonic fanbase, and thus don't need to put in any effort?
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There's a lot to unpack there (and many people have done it, if you care to look) but it kinda always comes down to Sega never having a real vision for the series after Sonic 3 (& Knuckles). It never really made the transition to 3D in the way that its direct competitor Mario did, and it's really felt like Sega has been scrambling to find some sort of niche for Sonic to fill ever since
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paradoxGentleman posted:I wonder what is it that makes Sonic games so reliably terrible. Is it the knowledge that they can just cash in on the ever faithful Sonic fanbase, and thus don't need to put in any effort? What sonic fanbase? It sure as hell isn't people like me who played 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles as a kid. I mean, I'm unfortunately aware of a certain demographic that does really like Sonic and friends, but I can't imagine there's enough of them for games like these to be financially viable.
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Sonic games aren't really so reliably terrible Early 3d ones were terrible but they were trying. Colors and Generations were actually really good, see pokecapns lps. Unleashed invented the modern gameplay of those two but was hampered by very slow beat em up sections. I would say Lost World's reception is mixed. Also people seem to like the modern sonic racing games. So from 2009 up to now they were doing really well until this game came out. This isn't counting the handheld games but still, better track record than a lot of Nintendo IPs have been able to have. 2006 and Boom seem to share most of the same production issues from what I'm reading so far.
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Dreamy Souffle posted:There's a thing to jump on. We don't need a pointless quip for every instance of this, who thought this was an okay thing. This is the loving worst thing about he game for me and I usually have a lot of patience for character tutorializing. That's kind of impressive actually.
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Vicas posted:There's a lot to unpack there (and many people have done it, if you care to look) but it kinda always comes down to Sega never having a real vision for the series after Sonic 3 (& Knuckles). It never really made the transition to 3D in the way that its direct competitor Mario did, and it's really felt like Sega has been scrambling to find some sort of niche for Sonic to fill ever since I think this was also right about the time the series really got traded over to Sega of America once SoJ realized nobody wanted it any more and they had a perfect target to shove their dead franchise onto
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TieTuesday posted:Unironically one of the biggest problems with this game is that they replace eggman as the villain with some boring chucklefuck with a dipshit name yeah they decided that instead of having eggman be the villain for the entire thing (which is a big reason why colors owned, you had eggman just farting over the PA system the entire game), you have just some chucklefuck who has nothing to do with the cartoon or anything, he's just a boring dipshit made exactly for the game because ??????? and man, hearing that this was made by former naughty dog people, the garbage gameplay starts to make a lot of sense
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