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i unironically cannot wait for tf2 to get killed
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Feb 26, 2016 15:04
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why tf2 is pretty good for a 9 year old shooter
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Feb 26, 2016 15:05
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Applewhite posted:I've never played heathstone but I object to it on principle. It's a digital CCG and the monsters don't come out of the cards and attack each other. The whole. Entire. Point. Of having a digital CCG would be so the monsters could come alive and fight. If you're just going to make a regular card game then you might as well buy real cards. no the point is you don't have to the shuffle the cards or keep them anywhere or go to smelly tournaments or do any kind of calculations on health or RNG etc etc
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Feb 26, 2016 15:06
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Thats a lot of words explaining why the monsters don't come out and fight, rear end in a top hat.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:08
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extra stout posted:it probably does seem like a nerd rant but you just need to really be old i guess, and remember this: haha you were literally retarded as a child and thought grinding against that xp bar was the definition of fun despite d2 being exactly as stupid and repetitive as d3 time moves on, ppl age, the magic goes away... also you can now endlessly grind in d3 just like in d2!!
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Feb 26, 2016 15:09
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nomadologique posted:no the point is you don't have to the shuffle the cards or keep them anywhere or go to smelly tournaments or do any kind of calculations on health or RNG etc etc Shuffling cards is one of life's little pleasures. lol if you don't enjoy shuffling cards or hearing that *flap* sound as you peel them off the top of the deck.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:09
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hemophilia posted:why tf2 is pretty good for a 9 year old shooter time for me to rant, one sec please
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Feb 26, 2016 15:10
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:All you D3 haters should try the expansion it made it super cool and seasons are fun and riffs are kind of fun boss rush mode and Crusader is easily the coolest class The D3 haters are mostly delusional schizo's. They complain D3 isn't like D2, but when it was at the start they were complaining it wasn't fun as you needed billions of gold to buy it from the AH or a one in a billion drop chance to get the items you wanted. Just like D2. Now they hate on D3 because there's no AH or lovely market system.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:10
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Actually not having to tap cards and manage a real deck was enough to get me to play magic. Instead of buying real cards, me and my friends would buy decks on the MTG client. Not the flashy games with pre made decks, but the really lovely thing you can buy digital variants of all the cards on. Just not having to tap cards and argue about rules. Arguing about rules and keeping up with new ones is why card games suck in real life. I defintiely dont' need digital battle monsters popping out of simulated cards.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:11
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hemophilia posted:Actually not having to tap cards and manage a real deck was enough to get me to play magic. Instead of buying real cards, me and my friends would buy decks on the MTG client. Not the flashy games with pre made decks, but the really lovely thing you can buy digital variants of all the cards on. Just not having to tap cards and argue about rules. Arguing about rules and keeping up with new ones is why card games suck in real life. But I mean as long as you are simulating the cards you might as well make simulated battle monsters pop out of them.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:13
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the reason they don't come out and fight is 3fold 1 it would take too much time 2 it would cost too much money for the devs 3 they sorta interact like that tho, the cards "do" digital things, they just don't fight but ya trust me, if the monsters were actually coming out of the cards and fighting every time, the games would be horrendously long and no one would play
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Feb 26, 2016 15:13
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Ever since DOTA2 came out they took devs out of the TF2 team until it consisted only of Doobie and his possums so there's like one update a year now. They cancelled Halloween and Christmas events last year. "Community Updates" are not updates. https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Something_Special_For_Someone_Special Horrible weapon balancing. The comics aren't funny anymore. i gotta think of more hold on
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Feb 26, 2016 15:14
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imagine: any time you want your card to do something, it takes a 30 second break from the game to show you an animation you have seen 5000 times before how interesting!!! very good material for a game after the first hour or two
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Feb 26, 2016 15:15
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D3 sucks, all you do is grind various random dungeons for loot ... aka "play the game" ... unlike D2, where you'd grind the exact same boss run until you wanted to die
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Feb 26, 2016 15:15
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Putty posted:Ever since DOTA2 came out they took devs out of the TF2 team until it consisted only of Doobie and his possums so there's like one update a year now. oh, you're playing or played for real and not crashing a random server for 10 hours every couple of years as a pyro it's fun if you just crash a server and play pyro
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Feb 26, 2016 15:15
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Putty posted:Ever since DOTA2 came out they took devs out of the TF2 team until it consisted only of Doobie and his possums so there's like one update a year now. putty you're coming dangerously close to indicating you care about soemthing in the real world, outside of these forums, and that you have a real world personality that is not forums based
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Feb 26, 2016 15:15
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nomadologique posted:imagine: any time you want your card to do something, it takes a 30 second break from the game to show you an animation you have seen 5000 times before Get this: you can turn the animations off.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:16
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TF2 was fun but now it just lies in the corner and occasionally pisses itself. We had some great times but really the time has come to put it out of its misery.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:17
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i am currently playing d3, have been for about a month, and it's a lot more fun and addictive than it has any right to be, considering it's a glorified flash game. oh i guess that explains the addictive part.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:17
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hemophilia posted:oh, you're playing or played for real and not crashing a random server for 10 hours every couple of years as a pyro they finally patched the spray exploit that you could use to crash everyone on a server to desktop and i'm peeved nomadologique posted:putty you're coming dangerously close to indicating you care about soemthing in the real world, outside of these forums, and that you have a real world personality that is not forums based i have no fingers and i must post
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Feb 26, 2016 15:18
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nomadologique posted:imagine: any time you want your card to do something, it takes a 30 second break from the game to show you an animation you have seen 5000 times before Like you could just make it happen at end-turn for the one player who can't make a move at the moment, and make things like instants and interrupts and spells usable it doesn't have to be a hold on while we play the mp4 cutscene. It doesn't have to be Pokemon Stadium.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:18
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Applewhite posted:Get this: you can turn the animations off. LOL ok, so you get to wait while the person on the other side of the game, who has animations turned on, watches his you still get the 30 second delay every time a card does something, even w them off additionally, if you can turn the animations off, dorks like you will still complain about it "what's the point of having animations if you can just turn them off?????"
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Feb 26, 2016 15:18
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also Overwatch has a gorilla and a german robot with a hammer the size of a car
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Feb 26, 2016 15:19
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nomadologique posted:LOL I wouldn't complain if animations were optional just like I enjoy the feature in Battle Chess where you can toggle whether the chess pieces are animated.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:20
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hemophilia posted:Like you could just make it happen at end-turn for the one player who can't make a move at the moment, and make things like instants and interrupts and spells usable it doesn't have to be a hold on while we play the mp4 cutscene. It doesn't have to be Pokemon Stadium. this really is not what applewhite said, he said the cards come alive and fight each other. if you run the whole turn, then have a cutscene, what is the point? it doesn't feel at all like the cards are coming alive and fighting each other. what happens when your cutscene runs longer than the 3 seconds the opponent takes to run his turn?
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Feb 26, 2016 15:20
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i have no doubt someone, or more than some one, proposed this very idea during development and it was shot down because it is, unfortunately, totally unrealistic they didn't not do it because they hate fun, they didn't do it because it is not fun, it prevents fun, which is the playing of the game
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Feb 26, 2016 15:21
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I think the cards aren't animated because it's supposed to run on a cell phone from 1998
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Feb 26, 2016 15:22
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Zorodius posted:I think the cards aren't animated because it's supposed to run on a cell phone from 1998 also this
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Feb 26, 2016 15:22
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nomadologique posted:this really is not what applewhite said, he said the cards come alive and fight each other. If it's my call, I don't attempt to breathe this much life into a card game. I'm theorizing ways to do it in fairness of the possibility but seriously no it's dumb, i would for sure skip that feature in applewhite's game or not play your version.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:22
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"I don't want to watch monsters do battle, that takes too much time. I'd rather just have combat resolved instantly." - a person who plays videogames, apparently.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:44
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if you actually play the game, yup, that would be the conclusion you would come to after about the 3rd time you watched the monsters do battle. like, imagine that chess game from star wars where the monsters kill each other. i'm pretty sure that after a hard night drinking space grog, han solo slurs "GET IT OVER W ALREADY" every time he tries to move a piece.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:46
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i like quick animations. if it's more than 300 ms i start to get bored
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Feb 26, 2016 15:51
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Effort write up about why Diablo 3's cash store was terrible because a few people were asking. In Diablo 3 the original drop rate for items was loving horrendous. Especially for a game that in spite of everything blizzard claimed they were doing was essentially a really long single player slog that you could play while staring at your friends avatar. It was so bad that it was possible to get drops for a class you weren't even playing, and not like a Oh hey heres this super amazing weapon for the wrong class! Better put it up on the cash stop so you can buy yourself a weapon for your class! It was almost like every single item and every permutation of those items were on the same drop table so even if you did get an item that didn't match your class it was still nine times out of ten a lovely weapon or item that no one would use anyway. Combine all of this with the different difficulties being handled in a really lovely way. One would expect that because of the tiered difficulty levels doing one maybe two run throughs of the previous difficulty levels would get you prepared for the next difficulty, but oooh no not blizzard the higher difficulties became almost impossible with out a specific item skill, or a certain type of weapon or armor AND the fact that the only way to even close to reliably get good item drops (again most likely mismatched for your class.) Was by already being able to clear these higher difficulties. All of this, (and the fact that korean bot farmers, and real gold farmers took to the game like flys to poo poo) combined to make a game that was obviously based around Blizzard trying to make some sweet sweet cash and even be so blazen as to sell you the priveledge to get involved. Much like Bitcoins, some people got in fast, and then got out with some cash, but most ended up getting screwed. Oh and the blizzard said HAHA THIS IS ALL TO BROKEN WERE GONNA NERF THAT SWORD YOU JUST SPENT 10 DOLLARS ON K? K. Edit: forgot to mention that huge nerf they did that ruined some of the items people paid real money for? Happened before they even released pvp, so like... what the hell was the point? I could see if it was in anticipation of releasing pvp, but nope... just blizzard arbitrarily deciding people were killing Diablo 2 fast 4 u or some poo poo. JimsonTheBetrayer fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Applewhite posted:"I don't want to watch monsters do battle, that takes too much time. I'd rather just have combat resolved instantly." - a person who plays videogames, apparently. In pokemon stadium, you didnt skip animations and decisions were made through menus and ultimately the same choice making you did with the cards, minus some elements they were too lazy to adapt on a lazy cash in, but i can promise you it was really not fun or cool after the first few times seeing blastoise shoot his water canons at pikachu
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Feb 26, 2016 15:52
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poo poo like that is fun at first, don't get me wrong. but it doesn't last. it doesn't keep a player around. one of my favorite books from when i was a kid was a magic the gathering book where it was just about a magic tournament, where wizards battled with the same spells and poo poo you used in the game. so the whole plotline and whatever was just an excuse to write scenes that were exactly what you imagined you were doing when you played magic. that was awesome, because instead of putting cards on the table, the wizards summoned real imps that went out and interacted with real bears! and they like, fought! and then somebody would cause an earthquake to open the ground and the imps and the bears would fall in, but the sprites would just fly right over and keep attacking the wizard in the face with their little spears. right, see, that's cool for two reasons: one, it's a book, and i'm there for that; two, it's dynamic. the bears and the imps don't always do the same thing. they have "real world" creative interactions, at least, if i trust the book. of course if i could "play" magic the gathering and it would be an actual loving wizard battle i would. but it's not. it will never be. it is a card game, meant to be fun. unfortunately, the fun comes from the mechanical interactions of the cards, and basically from the meta-gaming, which sad to say breaks the "reality" of the game's fiction in favor of understanding that it's a game. we are human adults, and even if we play dumb loving card games like little baby children, it's still impossible to make that "real" enough in an adult mind to hold the attention. the thing that makes you play the game is the game itself, not pointless and repetitive animations. why was hearthstone fun for the 2 months that i played it? simple, easy to learn mechanics, quick game resolution, a medium sized meta that takes a while to learn, and the feeling you have as your statistical-gambling mind actively grows and strengthens. by the time you are a "good" player you can see lines of play, and their reasons for and against, in a way that did not exist when you were a "bad" player. that is what is fun about the game.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:53
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in pre-expansion D3 the best way to improve your character was to relist undervalued items on the auction house and use the revenue to buy new gear playing the game was for chumps. which was just as well, since it was terribly balanced and largely obnoxious
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Feb 26, 2016 15:54
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I played it at launch and that wasn't my experience w/ it at all. I never had a hard time with gear or finding it, actually upgrades were pretty reliable and predictable iirc sometimes you'd get a nice surprise that was useful to you or a friend. But, as i mentioned i didn't play it with much anticipation to grind and I didn't play very far into the second difficulty tier
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Feb 26, 2016 15:56
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nomadologique posted:poo poo like that is fun at first, don't get me wrong. but it doesn't last. it doesn't keep a player around. Ugh fine I see your point. I still want a Hi-Def Battle Chess remake, though.
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Feb 26, 2016 15:58
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If a bdsm club promises they have a wall that's just a giant lathe you can lean your penis into and grind it away, and you get there and you're sad that it doesn't actually let you grind the whole thing away, I understand your objection but not why you're objecting there's still plenty of spiky poo poo to ram into your bloody piss stump
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hemophilia posted:I played it at launch and that wasn't my experience w/ it at all. I never had a hard time with gear or finding it, actually upgrades were pretty reliable and predictable iirc sometimes you'd get a nice surprise that was useful to you or a friend. i promise, if you had spent more time on the AH you would've had better gear. but yeah before hell/inferno you could coast by on the garbage that dropped no problem.
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