Eastern Europe: Olivier's sphere of influence

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Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Budzilla posted:

Bloomberg had this pic in an article a short while ago.

Western propaganda photoshop. Putin produces no tears

# ¿ Feb 26, 2016 03:49

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:08

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

If that is the reality of Ukrainian military then shouldn't/isn't the West flooding Ukraine with money and military aid? Like, everything they need without the West actually directly involving themselves militarily?

# ¿ Feb 26, 2016 22:38

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

They're really not that alarmed at all by Putin encroaching into Eastern Europe like this? I thought NATO was increasing troop presence and exercises all over the region. Are they really just okay with Ukraine flailing like this?
I guess.

# ¿ Feb 26, 2016 22:45

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

jonnypeh posted:

Eastern Europe: fabulous things we come up with in Estonia.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2016 17:58

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/289907-trump-incorrectly-says-russia-isnt-in-ukraine

Checks out

# ¿ Jul 31, 2016 20:36

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Scaramouche posted:

I don't think the Netherlands needs a coup right at this moment

It worked for Erdogan, it can work for the republic of black petes

# ¿ Aug 21, 2016 00:40

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

That's gotta be one of the ugliest stupidest-looking bombs I've ever seen

kinda making me hungry for bread though

# ¿ Oct 2, 2016 20:18

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

This is fuckin easy guys it's like Pok�mon
You send in horses to spook the polish and then send in elephants to spook the horses and then send in war pigs to spook the elephants
It's basically how Australia was made

# ¿ Oct 21, 2016 06:21

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

A Buttery Pastry posted:

You keep the pigs around to ward off Muslims...

Yes yes yes Then the Muslims eat the pigs and become Poles and the cycle resets so you need horses again
We all got this talk when we first entered puberty

# ¿ Oct 21, 2016 14:22

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

cinci zoo sniper posted:

The radiation expert who discovered the poison that killed Alexander Litvinenko "committed suicide" by stabbing himself repeatedly with two knives months after a trip to Russia, a coroner ruled.

Matthew Puncher, 46, bled to death at his home after receiving multiple stab wounds across his body from two kitchen knives, an inquest heard.

A pathologist said he could not completely exclude the possibility that someone else had been involved in the death of the father, but came to the conclusion that the injuries were self-inflicted.

But one detective claimed she didn't think he could have done so much damage to himself without falling unconscious.

A coroner recorded that Dr Puncher, who discovered the amount of polonium inside Litvinenko after he drank poisoned tea in London in 2006, committed suicide.

Dr Puncher was an expert in radiation protection dosimetry and worked for Public Health England at the UK's Atomic Energy Research Establishment at Harwell, Oxon.

He had been given sole responsibility over a contract with the US Federal Government for a programme measuring polonium inside former USSR nuclear weapons workers.

His wife Kathryn and work colleagues told an inquest into his death that he had "become obsessed" with a mistake he had made in his research.

She also said his mood "completely changed" after a visit to Russia before Christmas.

He was found dead at his home in Drayton, Oxfordshire, in May, with stab wounds to his arms, neck and upper abdomen.

His body was examined by Home Office pathologist Dr Nicholas Hunt who also conducted the post mortem on weapons expert Dr David Kelly in 2003.

Dr Kelly was found dead in woodland near his South Oxfordshire home, less than 10 miles from where Dr Puncher lived.

The Hutton Inquiry concluded that Dr Kelly had committed suicide.

Detective Constable Rachel Clarke, who investigated Dr Puncher's death, said: "His injuries were so extensive, I didn't know how he could have inflicted them on himself without becoming unconscious so we looked at the wider circumstances."

Pathologist Dr Hunt said it was possible for a person to self-inflict the number of wounds he did before becoming unconscious.

DC Clarke told Oxford Coroner's Court there was no evidence of a disturbance or a struggle and no evidence of anyone else's blood.

And she added: "It was very unusual. All the information told us he was very depressed and no-one in his family seemed particularly surprised he had taken his own life."

Dr Puncher's wife of 16 years, Kathryn said: "He was always an upbeat and sensitive man.

"He was brilliant with the children as he was so intelligent and enjoyed helping them with their homework.

"After Christmas he changed completely. He just lost interest and I had to prompt him to do things like getting dressed and washing up, things he did without thinking before.

"He used to cook all the meals but he just stopped. He seemed to stop caring about anything."

Head of department at Harwell, George Etherington, described Dr Puncher's concerns that his 'coding error' would land him prison for breaking a contract with the US Government as "irrational".

A colleague also described it as a "minor problem".

Dr Puncher and a colleague calculated the amount of polonimum-210 found inside Alexander Litvinenko's body following his death in 2006.

Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian FSB secret service who specialised in tackling organised crime.

He fled with his family to London and was granted asylum in 2000 and worked as a journalist, writer and consultant for the British intelligence services.

In January 2016 a UK public inquiry concluded the defector was probably murdered on the direct orders of the Russian security service FSB, approved by President Putin.

Oxfordshire Coroner Nicholas Graham recorded a conclusion of suicide on Dr Puncher.

Edit: In other news, Dozhd' reporter group has gone dark in Donetsk, last thing heard from them was a note sent to editor by one of the journalists, that they have been detained by State security ministry of DPR.

Down here in Merica we call this the old classic "Elliot Smith"

# ¿ Nov 27, 2016 03:02

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Russia is taking over a lot of the grain and certain areas of Eastern Europe. And I said you take away their wheat, that you go and knock the hell out of the grain, take back the grain. We take over the grain, which we should have done in the first place.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2016 19:27

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

At some point the heroic Admiral Kuznetsov will have killed more Russians than the Syrian opposition :911:

# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 18:03

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

SO this is definitely the ghost of Nikolay Kuznetsov bringing terror to modern day Russians for all the poo poo he had to take right?
Maybe he's just confused and thinks he's still fighting fascists, easy mistake

# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 18:38

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

yeah but that's still a pretty funny Sputnik take
*glances at giant cloudy haunted house of death towed across the ocean *
"Well you see, everyone has mistakes with aircraft carrier! No one has perfect aircraft carrier!"

# ¿ Dec 5, 2016 22:08

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Honestly the worst part of Trump being elected is that I can't make fun of Poland anymore

# ¿ Jan 20, 2017 06:40

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Dwesa posted:

I am sure that nuking winter olympics is the right solution to a state-sponsored doping scandal.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-olympics-ban-reactions-anger-conspiracies-support/28900475.html

Gosh nukes and an army?!! No other countries have those!!!

# ¿ Dec 8, 2017 04:53

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Well, I saw a banner stating "STOP ARMENIAN TERRORISM" in the bay loving area/ California SF area

That's funny, I haven't caught any Azeri signs/banners yet but I'm in SoCal. Caught a "STOP AZERI WAR CRIMES" sign with some other pro-Armenian stuff on the 5.

# ¿ Oct 18, 2020 18:13

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Somaen posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV4j_6ofqiA

So the guy in the video is Shamil Basayev, who is up there on the list of the worst human beings on the planet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege), whose effigy Navalny shoots in a lame pro-gun video from 2010. Not sure why the cockroaches are supposed to be "muslims" or if this means that jewish people who say they wish they could shoot hitler reveals that they are pro-german genocide.

Erulisse posted:

Chechen war memories were fresh and the video of kadyrov's dad slitting throats of 18 y/o russian soldiers was still in the internet. So it's almost like jewish people wishing to shoot nazis, not only hitler. Shoot certain groups of terrorists, not just people who are such and such race.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 23:27

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

well I think we can all agree that NOBODY is as much as a nazi as PUTLER

# ¿ May 24, 2021 23:16

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Cugel the Clever posted:

I just received word that Ukrainian forces have made an attack on a Russian radio station near the border! They transmitted a short anti-Russian message in Ukrainian. Several attackers in uniform were left behind with posthumous gunshot wounds.

Valiant Russian president, Vladimir Putin, announced on state TV:

Putin? Hitler. Andrew Jackson? Hitler. Winston Churchill? Hitler. Hitler? Hitler.
Turns out history is basically Hitlers all the way down, man.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2021 08:20

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Erulisse posted:

I think only two of those attacked and conquered a neighbouring country. Well, one of them, the other is still in the process.

I dunno man when I think of Hitler the main quality doesn't really come up as "attacked and conquered a neighboring country". Like, don't get me wrong, that's a hosed up thing to do, but like, cmon.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2021 14:07

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Cugel the Clever posted:

lol, you don't think "started a world war that killed tens of millions while in pursuit of irredentist goals" is one of the primary things he's remembered for, alongside the Holocaust and, of course, being the man who killed Hitler?

Sure, after the other ones, but that's also not a quality applicable to Putin unless I missed WW3 or you seriously think Ukraine will spark a conflict that kills tens of millions.
Again, I'm not saying he's not a vile autocrat, but all the Hitler comparisons itt do is reveal a lot about the posters (in a region whose recollections and narratives re: WW2 history and their roles can often be uhhhh shall we say...tenuous).

Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Dec 7, 2021

# ¿ Dec 7, 2021 20:05

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Tweezer Reprise posted:

It's definitely true that the internal industrially-powered genocide was rather unique and characteristic of the Third Reich, but ruling out any comparison or direct metaphor between, say, Churchill and Hitler does a big disservice to how the vast crimes of both were motivated by racially-based worldviews with a shared common ancestor. You don't have to airwall Hitler off to maintain rhetorical power, quite the contrary in my opinion.

Oh for sure, I think there are fair moments to utilize the comparison...I just think that the Hitler-Putin stuff specifically seems kind of hysterical and...disrespectful of the real vastness (as you said) and horror of the crimes/threats compared.

Especially when, as mentioned, Russia has no shortage of racist autocrats in its history to compare him to.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 03:43

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

Somaen posted:

The gas chambers Hitler grew out of smaller Hitlers, the small ones took inreasingly bold preventable steps and actions that lead him to a position of uncontested power and cruelty. Each of those steps is worth keeping in mind and drawing parallels to if there are similarities in actions and goals at that time (not necessarily being gas chambers)

Biden? Tiny Hitler.
Bush? Medium Hitler.
Hitler? Big Hitler.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 19:28

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:08

Punkin Spunkin: Jan 1, 2010

I look forward to the US losing its loving mind in 2085 when Mexico signs a military cooperation agreement with the PRC or some poo poo.
NO THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 20:14

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