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Thunderbro posted:Squeenix has never released accurate numbers beyond "we have 5 million accounts guys! 5 million whole accounts!". They fudge PR and news a lot to make the game seem much more popular than it is, and considering their level sync stuff pulls in all players their queue times are still really bad. I'd be surprised if it had much over 1 million subs. I'd be surprised if they had 1 million subscribers. That's actually a huge number. It's only because of wow that we consider that a low number.
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On ps4 something like 30-40% have completed the realm reborn trophy for finishing mainstory, some of those have probably quit and I'm pretty sure most don't play all year around so let's halve it, maybe something like 10-20% of playerbase is active at same time. This is really lovely math but I think 500k-million is decent guess. Levelsync is genious feature though, it unites poopsockers who love to repeat content and singleplayer single-run dudes beautifully. Queues are always ok and it's nice singleplayer experience. That said, I find ESO much more exciting singleplayer mmorpg experience. You really feel like exploring and stuff, FFXIV is more of a way to get WoW nostalgy fill and anime fill from same source one or two months a year. I'm pretty excited for No Mans Sky, even though it's not mmorpg it will probably do same thing as ESO for me. FFXIV I'm burned out on atm but definitely ready to come back at some point
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May 29, 2016 19:14
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Thunderbro posted:you'll be happy after getting through the actual 364 quest gate to even touch expansion content and then the 100+ quests that come after that before you can raid or play with your friends outside of the awfully designed level sync system It was fun having the chocobo butt perfume argument in the ffxiv thread so long ago. Those guys get so unreasonably defensive about how lovely their game can be when it gets lovely.
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May 29, 2016 19:37
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I can confirm FFXIV is a boring video game mostly because of the mmo mechanics. But hey, if you love theme park mmo's and you just think you need to find a really good one rather then a better genre of game go for it
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May 29, 2016 19:42
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I have zero interest in playing it myself, but FFXIV is clearly extremely popular everywhere that people talk about MMOs. I wouldn't have any doubts over someone saying it's got 500k-1m somewhat regular players, and that would firmly put it at #2 after WoW if true.
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May 29, 2016 20:52
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I tried the FFXIV free trial and was unsold on it pretty might right away when I noticed there was lag on ability use. I played Guild Wars 2 beforehand and all your abilities begin right when you push the button there, so it's pretty jarring having to go back to that old antiquated way of doing things. I heard there used to be lag on almost everything in FFXIV because they had server side checks for things as mundane as opening a menu before the they remade the entire game.
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May 29, 2016 22:27
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There isn't input lag so much as most things are specifically tied to the animation of the ability. Offensive and defensive cooldowns, certain procs, attack damage calculation.. the vast majority of these aren't applied until the animation itself has reached a certain frame. This can still be an issue in a few circumstances. The game is pretty responsive to inputs depending on your latency, and even has a fairly generous input buffer during the GCD.
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Mercury_Storm posted:I tried the FFXIV free trial and was unsold on it pretty might right away when I noticed there was lag on ability use. I played Guild Wars 2 beforehand and all your abilities begin right when you push the button there, so it's pretty jarring having to go back to that old antiquated way of doing things. I heard there used to be lag on almost everything in FFXIV because they had server side checks for things as mundane as opening a menu before the they remade the entire game. i bought the special edition of version 1. I logged in 3 times and rage quit 3 times. Its the only mmo i ever rage quit from. And it was the lag and terrible menu fuckery. It was released on pc but was hard coded to run on a controller with 4 buttons. They were talking about how super easy it was to switch classes mid combat and even had debuffs for doing so. Yet it took longer to swap out a weapon and change class in FFXIV than it took me to soe, run to the wh, drop my gear/get my gear, run to the class master and swap classes and then get a gatechant/summon back in lineage 2. Holy gently caress it was bad. Then when they finally gave up on 1.0 and gave out the free 2.0 i didnt even download it. I played a 2 week free trial of it last year and wasnt too impressed. It was boring. But i do have friends that do do the sub for a month or two a year thing. Though most of them now just roll a new email account and do a 2 week free trial for half a week. Either ive grown out of them, or mmos are all pretty lovely these days
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Meskhenet posted:
Mmos have always been bad. But they make you feel like you're achieving things which can be therapeutic in some life situations
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May 31, 2016 16:42
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yikes got into the Riders of Icarus final closed beta it's bad so far. sucks because i was really excited for an MMO where you get to collect dragons, i played dragon's prophet and it turned out to be a bust, not sure how this one will do either.
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Oh yeah Dragon's Prophet was loving bad from start to finish. I mean bad to the point where they didn't do proper Steam integration so if you were using an account you made before the game came to Steam you could buy DLC but you wouldn't get it and support would just tell you you're hosed and then ignore you and of course no refunds since it's DLC. Seriously gently caress those guys.
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Jun 4, 2016 10:01
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Ive got a friend on steam that is in RoI. He is having a blast playing pokemon and collecting all the mounts. I used to play venomancer in perfect world. I think once of the reasons i stopped was (well apart from the new races that made my class obsolete) was the rare poo poo you could collect. Of course there was always a 120 or something retarded venomancer there that would single hit kill the piece of poo poo as soon as it spawned if anyone else showed up to try tame it.
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Morglon posted:Oh yeah Dragon's Prophet was loving bad from start to finish. I mean bad to the point where they didn't do proper Steam integration so if you were using an account you made before the game came to Steam you could buy DLC but you wouldn't get it and support would just tell you you're hosed and then ignore you and of course no refunds since it's DLC. Seriously gently caress those guys. lol I remember that the whole game was a major cash grab. NA version recently announced it was getting shut down but their cash shop is still open last I heard, which totally isn't a money laundering scheme on behalf of daybreak The EU version devs were a lot better but the game still had retarded features like having to pay for an item to speak in global chat. the zones were super low pop so this combined made the game feel dead long before it was I played a new class in RoI and it actually made a huge difference. Still won't recommend it yet but if you get a beta key don't try priest I almost always play priest but god is the class awful in that game
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Nah, I did play on EU, NA version has been dead for more than a year now I think. Trust me EU was and still is I guess just as lovely, to the point of outright selling gambling boxes that may or may not have the dragon you want or just outright selling certain powerful ones in bundles with prices around the amount you'd expect to pay for a newly released full game.
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Morglon posted:Nah, I did play on EU, NA version has been dead for more than a year now I think. Trust me EU was and still is I guess just as lovely, to the point of outright selling gambling boxes that may or may not have the dragon you want or just outright selling certain powerful ones in bundles with prices around the amount you'd expect to pay for a newly released full game. yea i saw the gambling boxes, and the $100 dragon packages. plus taking design submissions from players and rendering them, then making them available by purchase only (and pre-purchased versions had better buffs than the ones purchased later, of course). last time I swung by the EU forums the devs were constantly trying to reassure people that EU isn't going to close too. A Spider Covets fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Downloading Riders right now because I am bored. Edit: God this game sucks. It cash shops to the point of either paying for a rezz or waiting 5 minutes. ShadowMoo fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 01:54
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ShadowMoo posted:Downloading Riders right now because I am bored. you're kidding right?
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Jun 6, 2016 08:53
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Nope, lasted 30 minutes before I uninstalled.
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ShadowMoo posted:Nope, lasted 30 minutes before I uninstalled. they've been avoiding any and all questions about the cash shop on the forums, while being pretty diligent about answering questions regarding other topics. and some of the testers just found out from the KR version that the game is getting a creepy ellin-type race too, lol if ever a decent monster-collecting MMO comes out let me know, i love collecting mounts and pets in these games but all the ones that focus on that aspect of gameplay are cash-shop obsessed in my experience
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Well what did you expect from Nexon? I mean it looks alright but pass, gently caress that noise.
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A Spider Covets posted:if ever a decent monster-collecting MMO comes out let me know, i love collecting mounts and pets in these games but all the ones that focus on that aspect of gameplay are cash-shop obsessed in my experience but...thats world of warcraft. there is no successor to wow in sight so you might wanna stick with it
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I'm not too familiar with nexon tbh As for wow i played it a lot as a teen and don't want to go back, when i say monster collecting i mean where you get to raise and level alongside them (like DP but not poo poo? The concept was fun), but i did reinstall eq last night and am having fun dinking around with nostalgia  i remade my necromancer from when i was a kid and am ready to chill with my undead friends
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Jun 7, 2016 13:01
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well, they dont lvl with them but finding/grinding for mounts and pets is all wow ppl do nowadays.
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there's totally pet battling/levelling in wow now
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 Ironic that the person that was actually looking for WoW's Pet Battle bullshit didn't even know it was a thing.
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Yeah but it's just tacked on instead of the focus and I can see not wanting to touch the game at all, much less still paying monthly for it. There's the option to make something out of that premise but if the western market touches it at all it's on mobile platforms and the things that get ported from Asia are hugely exploitative cash grabs.
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When your mmorpg requests get that specific it's time to just mmorpgs and not play mmorpgs I seesame thing on fantasy forums "looking for fantasy books with no magic and mc who collects butterflies"
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im aware it doesn't exist and likely won't haha, it was more of a hopeful "well if it happens!" statement but I should have been more clear. sorry! im having fun playing both bdo and messing around in eq atm. i dig the action combos in bdo a whole lot, and i have a lot of fun with horse breeding. As for eq its just fun running around looking at stuff i used to mess with when i was wee fuckin giant wasps, man would recommend both to anyone looking to inflict self harm on themselves via mmos
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mallamp posted:When your mmorpg requests get that specific it's time to just mmorpgs and not play mmorpgs You post on fantasy forums... good information for next time I have a posting battle
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Brave New World posted:
Pet Battling in WoW is insanely lame and lovely. Imagine Pokemon, now remove everything that makes Pokemon fun but keep a very basic monster battling system. I choose now to point and laugh at your ignorance. The game that he is looking for is called Shin Megami Tensei Online, except it no longer exists. It wasn't very good but it was still fun. SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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ArtIsResistance posted:You post on fantasy forums... good information for next time I have a posting battle Not really  Used to, but I'm kind of over it
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What is currently the best F2P MMORPG on the market? Best as defined by 'largest player base'.
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khy posted:What is currently the best F2P MMORPG on the market? Best as defined by 'largest player base'. If you mean totally free then probably SWTOR. If you can expand to "no monthly fees" then probably Guild Wars 2
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DreamShipWrecked posted:If you mean totally free then probably SWTOR. If you can expand to "no monthly fees" then probably Guild Wars 2 Thank you. I know at one point there was a site that used to do population graphs for MMO games; is something like that still available?
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Guild Wars 2 is free now too actually, with some restrictions on free accounts that haven't bought the expansion.
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