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Isaac posted:Im hitler Wait a minute...you can't both be hitler!!!
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Everyone should remember that the ideological foundations of Nazism are: i coulda sworn it was nationalism and socialism
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I'm sorry that someone called you a racist and/or fascist for being a trump supporter, OP. Please consider not being a racist and/or fascist in the future and you will not need to be Dresden'd in the name of the greater good.
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SirEvelynTremble posted:i coulda sworn it was nationalism and socialism lol wow maybe read Mein Kampf sometime? Hitler was absolutely anti-marxist and anti-socialism, his entire ideology is based on marxism being a tool of the Jew to undermine national sovereignty and greatness. also, he has a chapter on the origin of the "socialist" label for the nazi party and the usage of the red in the flag and other symbols associated with left-wing movements as a way to draw in working class people who might be curious about marxism and then BOOM tell them how great the country is and how instead of having to read all that difficult stuff you can just blame the Jew the name and symbols were a classic bait-and-switch and he writes openly about this in Mein Kampf, he says the purpose of propaganda isn't to convince experts or to convince supporters, but to convince the common man who would be a political opponent into joining your cause, and you do this by co-pting the symbols of the enemy
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Commie NedFlanders posted:lol wow that's loving brilliant! i think we should try that too - i mean look where it got Hitler!
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SirEvelynTremble posted:
Identity politics are a privileged distraction, no war, but the class war OP. I learned that from some goon's avatar so I'm kind of an expert on such matters.
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SirEvelynTremble posted:that's loving brilliant! i think we should try that too - i mean look where it got Hitler! sucking on a barrel of a gun in a basement like a lil B while a mighty torrent of mongol hoards and superior soviet officers laid waste and rained down brutality and shame onto the burning remnants and horrified citizens of Berlin
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Commie NedFlanders posted:sucking on a barrel of a gun in a basement like a lil B while a mighty torrent of mongol hoards and superior soviet officers laid waste and rained down brutality and shame onto the burning remnants and horrified citizens of Berlin America deserves to meet a similar fate.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:you sound like Boromir when what we need today is an army of Baggins' our party  their party 
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skeletonotherkin posted:America deserves to meet a similar fate. and together we can bring it there I'm phoning Soros maybe he will bung us a bundle
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:our party the meek shall inherent New Urth
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Mange Mite posted:Counyerstrike isnt a war, it's a police raid War is a police raid by other means  unless it's a revolutionary war, that's still cool
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Your brethren will hate the gently caress out of you if you're white/cis/hetero/male, either any singular or combined aspect thereof. That makes you "privileged" and your "privileged" rear end is inherently oppressive. You're bad because of who and what you are, you're bad because you exist. YOU represent the oppressive power structure. You must be treated as second-class, get sent to the back of the line, and generally be expected to concede to someone else who is less "privileged" than you. Oh, you say you worked hard, treated everyone fairly, and earned your spot? Shut up, step aside, go stand in the back corner and stop arguing for your supremacy! The fanatical left couldn't exist without the fanatical right. But, who made who? Agent Escalus fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Mar 14, 2016 |
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Mar 14, 2016 08:48
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Agent Escalus posted:Your brethren will hate the gently caress out of you if you're white/cis/hetero/male, either any singular or combined aspect thereof. That makes you "privileged" and your "privileged" rear end is inherently oppressive. You're bad because of who and what you are, you're bad because you exist. maybe the truth is in the middle??????????(question marks into infinity)
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The French Army! posted:More like Socialist Jihad Wanker's Party amiright? All semen belongs to the people, not the bourgeoisie to be locked and contained. Smash the capitalist state and let the semen flow!
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Agent Escalus posted:Your brethren will hate the gently caress out of you if you're white/cis/hetero/male, either any singular or combined aspect thereof. That makes you "privileged" and your "privileged" rear end is inherently oppressive. You're bad because of who and what you are, you're bad because you exist.  
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It's true that no socialist revolution has happened without violence - but that is because blatant capitaism keeps itself well-armed in case of such insurrections I suggest in fitting with the SJWP's mission ethic we adopt the passive-aggressive terrorism activities of teenagers on mischief night
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Mar 14, 2016 13:56
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SirEvelynTremble posted:ok whatever, countering strikes is exactly what capitalists do so we don't condone it. try playing communist chess - the pawns spark a revolution, join forces and throw the monarchy off the board. Then they share it out equally. Socialist fun for all the family counter-strike isn't countering a strike, it is a counter-strike
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I was initially drawn to your message and to its implicit promise of insanely brutal violence, but I cannot support these latest developments.
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SirEvelynTremble posted:It's true that no socialist revolution has happened without violence - but that is because blatant capitaism keeps itself well-armed in case of such insurrections you are describing Project Terror from the hit film Fight Club starring Brad Pitt and Edward Norton, directed by David Fincher and based off of the hit novel by Chuck Palahniuk
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Mar 14, 2016 16:14
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Commie NedFlanders posted:lol wow i guess you could say he had some good ideas 
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Anyone seeking revolutionary change with questions on the topic of Violence should read the book about Violence by Zizek or at least start by watching some videos on the topic he does a good job deconstructing and repurposing the concept of Violence in the context of emancipatory struggles against global capitalism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCOv8X-u2Ko
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Zizek got a lot of criticisms from lazy critics who didn't want to read and see his actual point when he made the intentionally provocative claim that "Gandhi was more violent than Hitler" Of course he was playing with people's expectations and being purposefully bombastic and provocative but he also had a clear and interesting point, which was to draw the distinction between different types of "Violence" He is speaking about violence in the sense of "that which disturbs and upsets the established social order" rather than the crude and impotent form of violence such as a father beating his child, which is counter productive and stupid and bad, or one citizen killing another, which is weak and ugly and subjective https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/07/slavoj-zizek-responds-to-his-critics/ quote:Instead of directly attacking the colonial state, Gandhi organized movements of civil disobedience, of boycotting British products, of creating social space outside the scope of the colonial state. One should then say that, crazy as it may sound, Gandhi was more violent than Hitler. The characterization of Hitler which would have him as a bad guy, responsible for the death of millions, but nonetheless a man with balls who pursued his ends with an iron will is not only ethically repulsive, it is also simply wrong: no, Hitler did not “have the balls” really to change things. All his actions were fundamentally reactions: he acted so that nothing would really change; he acted to prevent the Communist threat of a real change. His targeting of the Jews was ultimately an act of displacement in which he avoided the real enemy — the core of capitalist social relations themselves. Hitler staged a spectacle of Revolution so that the capitalist order could survive — in contrast to Gandhi whose movement effectively endeavored to interrupt the basic functioning of the British colonial state.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Anyone seeking revolutionary change with questions on the topic of Violence should read the book about Violence by Zizek or at least start by watching some videos on the topic This guy's a quack Violence is inherent in the system, my good man Groucho Marx said that 
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SirEvelynTremble posted:This guy's a quack ummm, zizek agrees, but goes further I'm not sure what part you disagree with?
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nah, op. all i care about is Burritos
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the most powerful and effective type of violence is the type practiced by Gandhi, which was fundamentally non-violent in its subjective dimension, but which in the objective dimension shattered the coordinates of what was possible under the existing regime and led to the defeat of one of the most powerful imperial forces of domination in the world I agree with this kind of "peaceful, non-violent, radical violence" it was also practiced by Dr Martin Luther King and was very effective during the civil rights movement. I believe this type of violence, borne out of radical Love for one's neighbor and the pursuit of Truth above and beyond social harmony is what the Lord Jesus Christ spoke about when he said : quote:34“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn
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Commie NedFlanders posted:ummm, zizek agrees, but goes further the only way to counter the system's violence is with the people's will, which inevitably turns violent in a revolution. Protests do nothing
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the most powerfully violent act I've ever witnessed in my life was during the Egyptian revolution, watching it on livestream when the protesters were facing and standing up against the army who were using lethal force against them. it was a totally one sided battle, but the protesters did not give an inch, and nothing would stop the fiery passion of their revolutionary fervor however, when the clock struck the hour for ritual prayer, the protesters halted, with a brutal military force surrounding them with weapons, and they kneeled down to pray en masse. it was absolutely beautiful, like nothing I had ever seen before, that strength and commitment and honor and love for God above all else. the Christians in the crowd began to form linked chains around the praying protesters, giving themselves up to protect them. The army halted as well, watching and not acting against them when I saw this, I knew the protesters had the power to overcome and win their struggle
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SirEvelynTremble posted:the only way to counter the system's violence is with the people's will, which inevitably turns violent in a revolution. Protests do nothing wrong. the people's will will invariably turn into terror and a new form of oppression if it uses the tools and methods of the enemy to defeat the enemy. only by shielding oneself in truth and a higher purpose, defeating violence with non-violence, can one replace a violent system with a better one. subjective violence only highlights the impotence and emptiness of the violent agent. The state turns violence when they are threatened, revealing their own weakness. We see the emperor has no clothes precisely at the moment when he is reduced to impotent terror and acting out. the will of the people must be bigger than the state, and this requires a higher purpose. this is why stupid angry violent acting out only ever results in a further strengthening of the state in response to it. non-violence, grounded in radical spirituality, borne out of Love, is the only way to overcome the devil
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take your meds also lol the protestors failed
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Carol Pizzamom posted:nah, op. all i care about is Burritos sure you can have a little donkey
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:take your meds they earned the right to "get the ball into their hands", but yes their choices with the ball led them to failure, no doubt this is why it's never enough to simply tear down the existing structure, any movement that isn't anchored by the heart in Love and by the brain in Theory is doomed to fail as well just look at Occupy Wallstreet, their righteous indignation and strength of will and determination forced the cameras of the world on them, they were in the spotlight, but their lack of moral grounding and theoretical compass means that the spotlight only showed them pooping in the street and ineffectually chasing their own tails like a bunch of bronies
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Cake Smashing Boob posted:take your meds If the protestors had hosed over the military, using weapons like guns etc, they would be in power now, but no the pussies let the military instigate a coup. Bwahaha
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if you want to be part of the protest saying NO to the existing system and you want to play a part in tearing it down, you MUST be ready and willing to take part in the rebuilding, which requires discipline, education, theory. you must do some reading, you must THINK hard thoughts, you must be disciplined and ready to step out of your comfort zone. comfortable lil babies who just want to protest without looking forward are doing the work of the enemy by dooming the movement to failure. educate yourself, learn, or you will become an unwitting agent of the enemy
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as long as we can wear berets. all good socialist paramilitary groups wear berets
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Commie NedFlanders posted:wrong. Jolly slot that is SO gay (in the bad way, which is lame, rather than the cool & good way that is homosexuality) I think your party is going to lose a lot of support if you follow this loser!!!
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SirEvelynTremble posted:If the protestors had hosed over the military, using weapons like guns etc, they would be in power now, but no the pussies let the military instigate a coup. Bwahaha that's a good strategy! that's why the US has spent the last 80 years or so giving weapons to people who dislike their governments how has that worked out?
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I've opened a small shed to keep dissidents in - please let me know if you are against us in any way and I'll give you directions so you can be locked up.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:that's a good strategy! the US funds anti_Socialist groups to take over Socialist countries so we need to watch out for that when we put our flag on the Redhouse (we're gonna paint it red obvs)
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