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 http://i.imgur.com/jTxtApl.gifv Stellaris is at attempt by Paradox to make a space strategy game rather than their usual games which focus on fairly narrow slices of human history. Stellaris is more or less a standard "4X" space game like any of the dozens of space strategy games where you build colonies and space ships and research tech and conquer poo poo. Paradox though hyped up the fact that this would not just be a "4X" but instead a "grand strategy" game because genre buzzwords mean something. Behind the buzzwords it meant that they were making a classic 4X game but with lots of interesting random events, a greater focus on diplomacy, and a strong sense of exploration and discovery in the early game. Unfortunately a lot of Paradox's ambitions for the game didn't quite pan out. Entire mechanics were found to be not fun or not working and had to be scrapped and new systems hastily put together. Paradox had little experience or skills in the "4X" genre and underestimated how hard it is to create a fun, manageable, and balanced core mechanic for how your empires grows and expands, and how important that is for every other feature in the game. They also seemingly rushed the game out the door with massive bugs and major event chains and features that simply did not work or were disabled last moment because no one could figure out how to make them balanced or fun in time for release. The early game is quite compelling, you have a genuine sense of wonder and excitement for what you'll find out there, what your empire will become. But it quickly spirals into micromanagement hell and you realize a lot of the cool choices you've been making or directions you're trying to take your empire are meaningless. The cool sense of early discovery quickly goes out the window after your 3rd or 4th game as you realize you encounter the exact same mysterious alien life forms and mostly the same events and only slightly different random alien races every time. For a paradox game the diplomacy is quite simple, and you never really interact with the entirely randomly generated aliens to generate much of a narrative in your head or get to know any of your rivals or allies. Ship design seems cool until you realize battle feedback is extremely unintuitive and optimal ship design ends up being extremely boring, generally with a single size or design being king. The player has no control over battles and your fleets often behave in very non-optimal ways, which often devolve into a giant ball of ships and explosions. Should you buy this game now? That's pretty subjective. I got a good 30 hours of fun out of the game, although most of that was because I was making a lot of assumptions that the core mechanics work and I simply wasn't good at the game or understood it yet. Once I figured out that no, a ton of the mechanics are poo poo, the fun quickly evaporated. Some people love the game, admit it has a long way to go, but still have a blast playing it in its current stage. I'd recommend holding off, wait for the first DLC or two and see what direction they're taking the game because it's almost certain there's going to be big changes going forward. MODS Stellaris is fully workshop integrated and there are tons of mods. Do you want only white humans? Do you want animes? Do you want balance mods? Do you want nazi balance mods with giant anime tits? The workshop has you covered. MULTIPLAYER Despite being a massive real time micro-management fest some people play this with other people. Some people in fact say it's the only way to truly enjoy the game. There are a few goon groups and ongoing games based on time zones. I'm baffled how anyone can play a Paradox game multiplayer without the ability to constantly ramp between pause and maximum speed and then use a bunch of console commands to fix some ugly borders or an event that didn't fire properly, but they do it, and they love it, and they want you to play too. This OP, like the game, is a bit poo poo and very much  Thank you for your time, god bless. Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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I sure hope this turns out better than the last time Paradox tried publishing a space 4X.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:49
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Space hype! Also this is happening in one hour. https://twitter.com/StellarisGame/status/710518731168993280
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Mar 17, 2016 18:50
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-Troika- posted:I sure hope this turns out better than the last time Paradox tried publishing a space 4X. This is different! They're actually developing it this time!
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Mar 17, 2016 18:51
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Paradox - why are you making me wait until May?!? I'm seriously looking forward to this one.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:51
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 Love this dude's head.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:51
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Erev posted:Paradox - why are you making me wait until May?!? I'm seriously looking forward to this one. It's amazing to see SA's own Wiz doing the AI. I have faith in this one - the last few paradox releases are beyond anything they ever used to do. CK2 and such came out and actually worked so fingers crossed for this. I do wish Steam would give a price for it though so I can pre order.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:54
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Stellaris looks great. I like that there will be a space game that has a robust domestic policy and diplomacy sphere instead of just Warship Lego Sets
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Mar 17, 2016 18:56
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There is no  big enough for this game.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:58
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I have not been fully on a hype train for many years, but this game, it has me in it's hype grip. I generally really like paradox games, and I've been dying for a good 4x space game since basically moo2. I've got a good feeling about this, and my biggest reservations are all minor things that won't ruin the game one way or another. The DLC potential for this is absolutely wallet-destroying as well.
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Mar 17, 2016 18:58
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I feel bad because I can't get hype for this. I will play it, I strongly suspect quite a bit, and equally strongly enjoy it, but it's just there. Lurking, knowing I will play it, biding its time.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:02
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Orv posted:I feel bad because I can't get hype for this. I will play it, I strongly suspect quite a bit, and equally strongly enjoy it, but it's just there. Lurking, knowing I will play it, biding its time.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:06
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Can you play as Pig People? This is really important.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:07
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Can you play as Pig People? This is really important.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:13
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Bort Bortles posted:I was initially put off by a few of the game features, such as planet tiles, but the rest of the game looks so good that I am getting a little excited.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:15
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I want to pre-order it but I can't. Please fix.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:18
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Can you play as Pig People? This is really important. Races with big members?!
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Mar 17, 2016 19:18
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I'm extremely hype for this game, but I'm hoping we get a lot of info in the UI, like if there are tell-tale signs about a race's culture from their ships, their map color, or some kind of icons.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:21
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I will be making a race or fungus people that live on arctic planets. Xenoophobic, spiritual fungi that are slow as hell because they come from a cold climate.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:25
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I am read to Make Space Great Again (on May 9th).
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Mar 17, 2016 19:26
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Torrannor posted:I will be making a race or fungus people that live on arctic planets. Xenoophobic, spiritual fungi that are slow as hell because they come from a cold climate. Juffo Wup fills in my fibers and I need a nap.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:26
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I'm hyped for this. Very hyped.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:29
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What I hope from the game - which is hard to see in previews - is that it has a lot of character and theme. I'm worried that it'll be like in GalCiv. You're the BlogBlogs and you colonise planets or you're the Jerkjerks and colonise planets and they all have the same names. Yes you can name them yourself but it brings the sides alive for me to do that. There's so much more to me about fighting over New Frankfurt than there is to fighting over Aldaris_001 which I've seen in five different games and is just generic as gently caress. Say every Avian alien race has 400 different potential planet names and it picks them based on what sort of system it is. That'd be great and not too hard. I liked in EU2 when you colonised a place the city there had a name based on who you are - Nye Sjaelland if you're Denmark and so on. I am sort of after that.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:31
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Please add this picture to the Humans section
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Mar 17, 2016 19:33
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Look at these loving guys:              But most of all, LOOK AT THIS GUY 
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Mar 17, 2016 19:35
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/\/\/\/\ The alien art is ~AMAZING~, and I will be happy to pay for DLC that adds more crazy cool aliens.Taear posted:What I hope from the game - which is hard to see in previews - is that it has a lot of character and theme. Yeah, I hope this makes it in. If not it should hopefully be easy to mod in like the Rosetta mod for EUIV that renames provinces based on culture.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:38
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What kind of ethos should stoic slug have?
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Mar 17, 2016 19:38
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I really hope the off-map intergalactic invasion is just straight up Aztecs.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:44
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Just a heads up, Paradox are about to do a stream of the game in about 20 minutes on their twitch channel.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:45
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Baronjutter posted:But most of all, LOOK AT THIS GUY Ahahaha, the smuggest slug.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:46
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I really want to buy that hat, I'm so hyped. Make Space Great Again!
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Mar 17, 2016 19:48
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Inevitably smug slug will be your random generated nemesis and you're going to rue the day he entered your reality.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:49
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Have they talked about mod support for this game at all?
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Mar 17, 2016 19:50
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hahaha new thread title is good Mod support will be like previous paradox games, hopefully better than ever from what we've heard. They've said it will be very easy to make custom race graphics too, not sure on ship sets. I'm sure it will all be doable and there will be some amazing "TC" mods.
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Pakled posted:Have they talked about mod support for this game at all? It's still on Clausewitz so just as moddable as CK2 and EU4.
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A fun DLC that would probably be easy to make and please history fans would be a 'Legacy of Earth' DLC or something that adds: 1.) More unique clothing sets for humans - Military dicatorships with medals and such, priestly robes for everyone, Star Trek style space unitards, exotic gold imperial poo poo, etc 2.) More human portraits 3.) Human name sets for characters/ships - Unified Earth (the default mix), Chinese, German, American, etc. 4.) Some unique human events
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Mar 17, 2016 19:53
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Can't wait to be murdered by space Ottomans so I can shake my fist at the sky and yell, "DOOOOOOOMDARK!"
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Mar 17, 2016 19:55
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Fintilgin posted:A fun DLC that would probably be easy to make and please history fans would be a 'Legacy of Earth' DLC or something that adds: They already know humans will be by far the most popular race to play. I'm sure within months they'll release stats saying 70% of players play some sort of "custom human". So some rather human-centric DLC should hopefully come down the pipes. Although stuff like portraits and clothing should be within modders easy reach. Just grab the big HUMAN CLOTHING PACK, or of course the most popular content on the forums, the human portrait pack that is 100% white people with slightly nazi-esq fashion.
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Mar 17, 2016 19:56
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Baronjutter posted:They already know humans will be by far the most popular race to play. I'm sure within months they'll release stats saying 70% of players play some sort of "custom human". So some rather human-centric DLC should hopefully come down the pipes. Although stuff like portraits and clothing should be within modders easy reach. Just grab the big HUMAN CLOTHING PACK, or of course the most popular content on the forums, the human portrait pack that is 100% white people with slightly nazi-esq fashion. Haha yeah gently caress those hypothetical casuals
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Phlegmish posted:Haha yeah gently caress those hypothetical casuals Casual forums nazi's ??
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