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WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Digital Fingers posted:

Stuff that makes me legit believe are things like the 1952 washington dc ufo incident, the battle for los angeles, the phoenix lights, claims from astronauts, the massive amounts of foo fighters that were reported in WW2, military pilots being scrambled to intercept UFO's with radar information to back it up their own aerial observations, commercial pilots reporting UFO's in detail- again with ground radar backing them up, people with incredibly hard to explain radiation burns, lots of genuinely good evidence.

The Battle of Los Angeles was a balloon or more likely nothing at all, the Phoenix lights were flares, supposed claims by astronauts are more often than not purposefully misconstrued by believers (and some of the astronauts are simply credulous), and foo fighters were probably nothing. Tons of “eyewitness” things like radiation burns are nothing more than stories, too.

The commercial airline pilot sightings, and those with multi-factor confirmation are the best evidence of something going on because they're way harder to handwave away. I love first-hand accounts from people on the ground but they're harder to believe and can lead to damaging publicity a la the Phoenix lights.

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WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Digital Fingers posted:

Anyone who's read about any of this stuff knows all those explanations chum, and they all suck poo poo. The phoenix lights were in the air for over an hour and were seen moving at a steady pace across a bunch of areas over Arizona not just phoenix, poo poo ain't flares boyo. Saying the battle of los angeles was them shooting 14 000 shell for over an hour at a balloon or "nothing at all" while the target was illuminated by crap ton of search lights is an incredibly poor explanation for the event. To avoid quoting huge walls of text you can just google the astronaut thing and see their quotes word for word.

The foo fighters being "probably nothing" when hundreds of photos and reports exist of them? Really buddy? Also you left out the DC sighting, were those balloons or flares my man?
I've read the exact poo poo youre saying now a dozen times on this site, it's incredibly loving tedious. Like gently caress, the dudes using this thread the bitch about bernie are more interesting.

For everyone else who wants to look at more cool ufo stuff instead of trying show off how rational and well grounded they are here's some peeps talking about the McMinnville UFO photos:
https://youtu.be/Gwmeq-tdg5I

Hey buddy we're on the same side you just believe in the fake stuff too it's cool settle down

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Digital Fingers posted:

You're a loving dweeb

Don't bring up explained sightings if you don't wanna get called out!!

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Digital Fingers posted:

like i added that as a after thought because i knew some boring rear end fedora goon would say "weather balloons & flares" and you posted pretty much word for word what I thought you would say. Do you understand how loving terrible and banal your post is for me to have already have written it for you in my head before you even posted it? You didn't even call me out you just made a smug garbage post.

I called those sightings out precisely because they are explained and elicit the "boring rear end fedora goon" response. It's also why I left the DC sighting out, because that's a good sighting.

That's why, at the end of the post you clearly didn't read, I said

WEH posted:

The commercial airline pilot sightings, and those with multi-factor confirmation are the best evidence of something going on because they're way harder to handwave away. I love first-hand accounts from people on the ground but they're harder to believe and can lead to damaging publicity a la the Phoenix lights.

Don't bring up poo poo people are just gonna jump on, point to the Japanese pilots seeing the giant UFO off of Alaska complete with primary radar returns. There's no easy answer to stuff like that.

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Digital Fingers posted:

just go back to not posting man, kiss my rear end

Why are you so mad??

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

Even the stuff with no easy answer doesn't necessarily mean "visit from extraterrestrial intelligence".

Our faces are gonna be so red when the Greys hold a press conference and tell us they're Elves and they mess with cows cus they're pissed we stopped giving them bread and milk.

Or kept disturbing their rocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulduf%C3%B3lk#Road_construction_stopped

But yeah I think it's ~mostly~ black projects

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

I'm reading Secret Life: Firsthand Accounts of UFO Abductions atm and the parts where the aliens are super confused by bleached hair and braces are good, imo

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Yvershek posted:

If good ol' Jimmy couldn't get to the bottom of it, no one can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_UFO_incident

“Defense implications” aka “the scary people say I can't build houses for poors if I squeal”

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Turbosnowy posted:

One of my fav UFO stories is the one that happened in good ol' Blighty. Hicks getting anally probed in middle of nowhere-ville and dodgy pics of saucers are ten a penny and mostly just make people think everything is a hoax, but when you get weirdness going on that is recorded officially with tonnes of witnesses etc - I dunno just seems there is a bit more too it than - 'oh um a weather balloon or swamp gas or flares or whatever the normal handwavy explanations are' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident

Of course it could be explained with the theory that it was a working F35 from the future, but that would require not only the invention of time travel devices but also getting the F35 joint strike fighter to work at some point , which I think pushes this theory ouf of the bounds of credibility.

If you listen to the tape recorded by one of the dudes during the second incident, they mention seeing the object at a very similar frequency to the rotation of a nearby lighthouse. The first day is mostly hearsay as far as I can tell.

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

NeoHentaiMaster posted:

What's really cool is how over the past 10-15 years the rates of people with instant access to high resolution cameras as well as cameras that are just always on and watching the sky ( like dashboard cams ) have increased by several of magnetite but videos of UFOs have actually dropped. Hmmmm!

It's not a causational link because cell phone cameras are as ubiquitous as they are terrible at capturing things in the sky/at night and very few people carry a camera around capable of doing so. Same deal with dashcams, which are fixed wide-angle and aren't going to be much use for anything in the sky other than bolides.

You're better off attributing it to increased awareness of atmospheric phenomena, education, and/or light pollution removing much of the night sky for far more people nowadays than before.

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Mercrom posted:

arguments against:
- its literally impossible

Traversable wormholes and Alcubierre drives are theoretically possible, so...

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Mercrom posted:

might as well be humans rather than aliens then because those things are time machines

1) Why would humans come back and 2) That far in the future they'd probably be so far removed from us they might as well be aliens.

Haier posted:

He always questioned a lot of the big attractions in ufology, such as the Majestic 12 papers, Area 51, and other things. He's sarcastic as hell and Saucer Smear is like Mad Magazine for UFO topics.

Thanks for this!

WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Fojar38 posted:

bernouts think that an offhand joke clinton made about aliens is going to sink her campaign and usher in a thousand years of glorious socialism

Personally, I think enough morons living in bunkers will be swayed by this to get her into the white house

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WEH
Feb 22, 2009

Was he also the dude who said Obama took a stargate to Mars as a teen? Either way, Icke has the dubious honor of being so insane that Mysterious Universe makes fun of him

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