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I'm so impotently angry at this. Between Unaoil and the Panama Papers I've just about reached my sheer outrage level this week. I can't wait for the US poo poo. Watch we find out loving Obama and the clintons are on it.
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kustomkarkommando posted:A lot of things are saying the data includes copies of passports of lots of people so I don't think they are going to dump that wholesale I suspected there would be a lot of personal info in them, yeah. Hopefully all of the outlets are thorough. I'm dying to see how many outright criminals and bandits are in office.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:00 |
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kustomkarkommando posted:A lot of things are saying the data includes copies of passports of lots of people so I don't think they are going to dump that wholesale what they've released thus far has certain details censored, so i'd imagine they'll do that for everything they release. and i doubt they'll be doing that for 2.6TB worth of files.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:01 |
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Redgrendel2001 posted:
Yep, from the CBC http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/secret-files-reveal-more-canadians-using-offshore-tax-havens-1.1376407
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Volkerball posted:what they've released thus far has certain details censored, so i'd imagine they'll do that for everything they release. and i doubt they'll be doing that for 2.6TB worth of files. Don't worry, I'm sure wikileaks or someone will release them all raw so people can start hunting through them to get the Clinton Foundation connection we all want so bad. Now I must know if the email scandal has any ties to this too because if so it's going to be the greatest political meltdown in US history.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:02 |
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Mr Hootington posted:I'm so impotently angry at this. Every big name in US politics is dirty as gently caress, even Sanders more than likely. The only thing that matters to the public/media is how good they cover their trails and how outrageous the amount of $$$ is.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:03 |
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http://offshoreleaks.icij.org/search It's a searchable database of offshore companies created by country (I think), listing their intermediaries and addresses. Hong Kong and the UK blow everyone out of the water. Ireland also has a large amount of them relatively speaking. e; welp, my bad, wrong leak School Nickname fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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School Nickname posted:http://offshoreleaks.icij.org/search This seems to be from an old leak from 2013 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshore_leaks
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:05 |
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this is where all the data on the leaks is. https://panamapapers.icij.org/graphs/
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:06 |
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quote:Potential connection between Mossack Fonseca and the 1983 Brink's-Mat robbery Called the "Crime of the Century" the robbery netted £26 million (today approx £79 million) worth of gold bullion, diamonds and cash stolen from a warehouse. Many of the robbery gang were convicted, but the gold has never been recovered. So make that The Boys from Brazil, The Big Short, and Heat.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:08 |
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BadOptics posted:Every big name in US politics is dirty as gently caress, even Sanders more than likely. The only thing that matters to the public/media is how good they cover their trails and how outrageous the amount of $$$ is. Oh yeah I know this. You have to be a bit scummy. It just depends on the level of scum. I do not actually think Sanders, Obama, or even the likes of a Rand Paul would be on this. Clinton, Kissinger, Romney, or Kasich could easily be in here.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:12 |
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Redgrendel2001 posted:So make that The Boys from Brazil, The Big Short, and Heat. Oh come on you work for the SS and found a money laundering company and you can't even get literal Nazi Gold? Ahahaha STRONG ECONOMY turns out the UK is literally a shell for illicit finance lolololol
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:15 |
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Mr Hootington posted:Oh yeah I know this. You have to be a bit scummy. It just depends on the level of scum. I do not actually think Sanders, Obama, or even the likes of a Rand Paul would be on this. Clinton, Kissinger, Romney, or Kasich could easily be in here. I don't think Obama or Sanders have enough money to justify this, but I'm definitely holding out for a good solid Clinton Foundation connection. Maybe some Trump in there too.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:16 |
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Mr Hootington posted:Oh yeah I know this. You have to be a bit scummy. It just depends on the level of scum. I do not actually think Sanders, Obama, or even the likes of a Rand Paul would be on this. Clinton, Kissinger, Romney, or Kasich could easily be in here. Ahem. Grundulum posted:FYI: Dick Cheney represented Wyoming in Congress way back when.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:16 |
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OldMemes posted:Julian Assange is going to use this as a chance to be annoying and attention seeking again, isn't he? Dude wishes he was as cool as Ed Snowden. https://mobile.twitter.com/wikileaks/status/716772373408718849
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:19 |
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So I've not heard of them, can someone give me a pithy, truthy paragraph about the ICIJ? Cynical American attempt to create a partisan wikileaks equivalent? Crusading journalists who care only for truth? Somewhere in between?
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:19 |
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Scaramouche posted:So I've not heard of them, can someone give me a pithy, truthy paragraph about the ICIJ? Cynical American attempt to create a partisan wikileaks equivalent? Crusading journalists who care only for truth? Somewhere in between? Every event in the world is shaped by America so why should this be any different. Please never give any agency to non-Americans. They are in the end just puppets to the true rulers of the world.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:22 |
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It's part of the Center for Public Integrity. I think they're pretty well-regarded as non-partisan. Probably more establishment than wikileaks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Public_Integrity
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:22 |
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Scaramouche posted:So I've not heard of them, can someone give me a pithy, truthy paragraph about the ICIJ? Cynical American attempt to create a partisan wikileaks equivalent? Crusading journalists who care only for truth? Somewhere in between? They have hinted that they will be releasing some US names soon. Most of the investigators were in Europe, so they released the European names first. This isn't a conspiracy or some sort of other bullshit. It is a staggered release because the volume of information is massive.
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https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/716780162403033088
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Xae posted:They have hinted that they will be releasing some US names soon. I wouldn't be shocked if the volume is so massive these papers will give new stories for years.
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I'll scream and hit the ceiling if the name "Clinton" pops up in any capacity.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:25 |
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Vermain posted:I'll scream and hit the ceiling if the name "Clinton" pops up in any capacity. I'll basically guarantee you that every single Republican operative got called into work to ctrl-F Clinton in every document.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:27 |
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Vermain posted:I'll scream and hit the ceiling if the name "Clinton" pops up in any capacity. I wouldn't hold my breath. Shady relationships with lobbyists, sure. Outright corruption including shell companies and illegal activity in offshore accounts to the tune of millions of dollars? That's a hell of an escalation. I really don't think you can get away with that kind of thing in the US as a politician these days, and I doubt many are eager to see if they can get away with it. There might be some lobbyists from corporations wrapped up in it though.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:28 |
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TheQuietWilds posted:I don't think Obama or Sanders have enough money to justify this, but I'm definitely holding out for a good solid Clinton Foundation connection. Maybe some Trump in there too. Here is the rest of his $10 billion. Grundulum posted:Ahem. That is a given. Plus the Bushes and the rest of the gang. I kinda just want to refer to everyone in the documents as bad words. Any British goons have thoughts on how this could affect Cameron? What happens in still destabilized Ukraine? This thing could be huge if given legs. Which it won't. Just like Unaoil seems to not have legs. Just need to burn it all down.
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Xae posted:I'll basically guarantee you that every single Republican operative got called into work to ctrl-F Clinton in every document. Probably Trump too, and I'd imagine the DNC will start ctrl+f'ing republicans too.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:30 |
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TheQuietWilds posted:I don't think Obama or Sanders have enough money to justify this, but I'm definitely holding out for a good solid Clinton Foundation connection. Maybe some Trump in there too. They'd have to be saving a LOT of money in order to create that sort of liability for Hillary. I don't doubt that at least a few prominent donors are going to show up (if only due to demographic overlap) but not the Clintons themselves. Trump would also be a bit surprising since he's the last guy on Earth who's going to hide one red cent of his wealth.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:30 |
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AllanGordon posted:Every event in the world is shaped by America so why should this be any different. Jeeze Louise I'm not even an American and someone upthread said they're funded by USAID so I wanted to find out more.
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Mr Hootington posted:Here is the rest of his $10 billion. Unaoil just came out dude. And still, Iraqs government has already been shuffled around. There's massive protests rocking the country over corruption.
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Vermain posted:I'll scream and hit the ceiling if the name "Clinton" pops up in any capacity. Well the current election cycle is already off the rails this could be the proverbial backhoe that turns it into a full on wreck. (I'm going to take an express train to hell when I die)
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:32 |
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CBC reporting a Canadian senator's husband had a shell company: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/senator-s-husband-put-1-7m-in-offshore-tax-havens-1.1329197 Not exactly a PM, but interested to see what else comes out in the near future. quote:Tony Merchant of Regina, dubbed Canada's class-action king because of the large settlements he has won for his clients, transferred money to a tax haven in the South Pacific and then onward to an account in the Caribbean, according to the files. His wife, Senator Pana Merchant, as well as their three sons are named in the documents as beneficiaries of the funds.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:32 |
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C-SPAN Caller posted:Probably Trump too, and I'd imagine the DNC will start ctrl+f'ing republicans too. I don't think trump has the type of fluid assets that offshoring is good for. His problem is he has a ton of very static and/or imaginary assets.
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People act like anyone will actually get in trouble for any of this.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:32 |
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Volkerball posted:I wouldn't hold my breath. Shady relationships with lobbyists, sure. Outright corruption including shell companies and illegal activity in offshore accounts to the tune of millions of dollars? That's a hell of an escalation. I really don't think you can get away with that kind of thing in the US as a politician these days, and I doubt many are eager to see if they can get away with it. There might be some lobbyists from corporations wrapped up in it though. I agree, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone they're connected to got caught up in it. Also this.
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Volkerball posted:I wouldn't hold my breath. Shady relationships with lobbyists, sure. Outright corruption including shell companies and illegal activity in offshore accounts to the tune of millions of dollars? That's a hell of an escalation. I really don't think you can get away with that kind of thing in the US as a politician these days, and I doubt many are eager to see if they can get away with it. There might be some lobbyists from corporations wrapped up in it though. I mean the Clintons have already shown they used swiss bank accounts as intermediaries for foreign donations to their campaign fund last year so this will probably be brought back up. When you're rich and think you're untouchable you do some insane stuff. Currently my wild pipe dream is like the Russian business elite orphan child abduction rape scheme will show up through something similar for Bill Clinton and the Clinton Foundation, connected to that plane trip that totally didn't happen.
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# ? Apr 4, 2016 01:33 |
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Comedy option: Clinton ends up clean, Sanders implicated for fraud
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Scaramouche posted:Jeeze Louise I'm not even an American and someone upthread said they're funded by USAID so I wanted to find out more. They're funded by a lot of people, and the leaks are also distributed among German and French media. Just conspiratorial minded folks drumming this type of thing up. You can safely ignore them.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:People act like anyone will actually get in trouble for any of this. The Iceland dude is screwed. Everyone else is basically fine.
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quote:Currently my wild pipe dream is like the Russian business elite orphan child abduction rape scheme will show up through something similar for Bill Clinton and the Clinton Foundation, connected to that plane trip that totally didn't happen. Hey guys wouldn't it be great if a bunch of children were raped so that my candidate could win an election unopposed
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