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Grouchio posted:Open the loving bloodgates. I think this is based on a mistranslation. People started blowing up about a comment EiC of SZ Plöchinger made, but he later clarified in English: https://twitter.com/ploechinger/status/716782534449897473
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SgtScruffy posted:I heard a few minutes of it on NPR this afternoon, but if I had to guess there's nothing "sexy" enough about it yet for something like CNN to feel like they need to care hahahahah I bet their corporate lawyers care and are restricting them from reporting it until they determine their exposure
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Oracle posted:Name one other power player from Wyoming. The state has less than a million people. Could be some oil/mining CEOs.
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I just checked CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Nytimes, Washpo and none of them have the story on their front pages. Interesting that the US journalists that were a part of the story are mostly small bit players, guess they don't trust the major news corporations, which would make sense. Edit: it's on npr fwiw
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Mister Fister posted:I just checked CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Nytimes, Washpo and none of them have the story on their front pages. Interesting that the US journalists that were a part of the story are mostly small bit players, guess they don't trust the major news corporations, which would make sense. drat, the anti-sanders media at it again.
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Bip Roberts posted:drat, the anti-sanders media at it again. Cool, this has nothing to do with this story. Thanks for the terrible post though.
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Mister Fister posted:Cool, this has nothing to do with this story. Thanks for the terrible post though. Are you talking to yourself?
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Mister Fister posted:I just checked CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Nytimes, Washpo and none of them have the story on their front pages. Interesting that the US journalists that were a part of the story are mostly small bit players, guess they don't trust the major news corporations, which would make sense. https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...omepage%2Fstory WaPo has it on their homepage after scrolling, but under the context of how it's Putin's scandal.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ yeah missed it, took i guess technically on the front page, hidden. Brainiac Five posted:Are you talking to yourself? Which parachute are you
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SgtScruffy posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...omepage%2Fstory To be fair, Putin is by far the most wrapped up in this. There's a shitload of people in it for what so far appear to be more minor offenses from what has been revealed, but Putin is on the hook for $2bn.
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FWIW, I'm sure Democracy Now will be all over this.
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quote:Update on FIA: Failing to conduct proper due diligence on customers is no small matter. Mossack Fonseca was forced to write letters in 2010 and 2013 to the Financial Investigation Agency, explaining why the law firm resigned in 2010 as registered agent for two shell companies whose place of business was Pyongyang, North Korea. That is an obvious red flag given U.N. sanctions on the nation over its program to develop nuclear weapons. North Korea today is believed to be perfecting a compact nuclear warhead that can be delivered on a ballistic missile. Considering their clientele, these two clowns could end up dead by a "heart attack" before they ever testify to anything.
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I'm loving the mental image of very nervous aides showing up to work this morning and receiving very angry calls from very important people.
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Brazil is a bad land, and deserves to clean house. Also nca Iceland.
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Mr. Jive posted:I'm loving the mental image of very nervous aides showing up to work this morning and receiving very angry calls from very important people. Better yet: polonium or ricin poisoning if you're a partner.
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Mister Fister posted:Better yet: polonium or ricin poisoning if you're a partner. Or their IT guy.
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Xandu posted:Or their IT guy. Yeah, if I worked in their IT shop I would be looking into a new identity right now or maybe a deserted island you could live on.
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Mr. Jive posted:I'm loving the mental image of very nervous aides showing up to work this morning and receiving very angry calls from very important people.
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quote:Canadian Senator Pana Merchant is named in the documents as the beneficiary of $2 million in funds placed in tax havens by her husband, Tony Merchant of Regina.
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Just because you have a off shore shell company doesn't mean you broke any laws. The people doing this have to be careful so that innocent people aren't smeared by association. I applaud the news agencies for sitting on this and going through it before publishing but I hope they can properly frame the story.
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Vladimir Putin posted:Just because you have a off shore shell company doesn't mean you broke any laws. The people doing this have to be careful so that innocent people aren't smeared by association. I applaud the news agencies for sitting on this and going through it before publishing but I hope they can properly frame the story. The default position on offshores should be "prove you're not a camel comrade." It may not be illegal in all cases, but the number of "legitimate" uses is pretty small.
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That was fast.quote:The Australian Tax Office (ATO) is investigating 800 Australian residents named in a massive leak of tax and financial records known as the Panama Papers. Vladimir Putin posted:Just because you have a off shore shell company doesn't mean you broke any laws. The people doing this have to be careful so that innocent people aren't smeared by association. I applaud the news agencies for sitting on this and going through it before publishing but I hope they can properly frame the story. Nice try, Vlad. You won't get away this time.
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redscare posted:The default position on offshores should be "prove you're not a camel comrade." It may not be illegal in all cases, but the number of "legitimate" uses is pretty small. Maybe I don't understand it correctly. Are these shell companies that have been opened up your individuals? That per se is nothing special right? Don't you have to dig deeper and see what the activity of those accounts are to have a conclusion of corruption?
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USAToday starting in on their coverage. Not bad, all things considered.
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Vladimir Putin posted:Maybe I don't understand it correctly. Are these shell companies that have been opened up your individuals? That per se is nothing special right? Don't you have to dig deeper and see what the activity of those accounts are to have a conclusion of corruption? P.much. The whole idea of offshoring is to use shells to hide money, mostly to evade taxes or hide dirty money. Using an offshore is not evidence corruption in and of itself, but it's shady as hell and extremely unlikely to be legit in any way, because if it's legit, why hide it?
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Oracle posted:Name one other power player from Wyoming. The state has less than a million people. It could just be that shell companies were set up in Wyoming. There seems to be a history of it going on in the state. The Nevada reference seems to be just be that. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shell-companies-idUSTRE75R20Z20110628
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Atrocious Joe posted:It could just be that shell companies were set up in Wyoming. There seems to be a history of it going on in the state. The Nevada reference seems to be just be that. Shell companies need to disassociate the money from you, right? So it wouldn't really make any sense to have the shell company's address be something that has anything to do with you. And since it's a fake company, the address can just be pretty much anywhere and it can run out of a PO box or whatever. Wyoming sounds like a good place to put a bunch of fake companies.
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redscare posted:P.much. The whole idea of offshoring is to use shells to hide money, mostly to evade taxes or hide dirty money. Using an offshore is not evidence corruption in and of itself, but it's shady as hell and extremely unlikely to be legit in any way, because if it's legit, why hide it? Not entirely true. There's a few legitimate uses of offshore accounts. Setting up joint ventures and things like that. Or just wanting privacy. But I would say that setting up an offshore through Mossack Fonseca is very suspicious given what this company apparently existed to do.
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http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-adani-brother/quote:Aishwarya Rai Well, i have a coworker who won't be happy about this. Also, certain individuals in panama right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpjX4q5ZWQc
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Oracle posted:Name one other power player from Wyoming. The state has less than a million people. And four billionaires last I checked: http://kisscasper.com/who-are-the-wealthiest-people-in-wyoming-how-much-are-they-worth/
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Brocialist posted:USAToday starting in on their coverage. Not bad, ask things considered. Everyone whining the US press isn't involved should wait for Monday's papers to come out. I assume the goal is to hit the start of the news cycle, since the European articles were in their papers' Monday editions.
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So if few Americans are part of this it's probably because they don't do business with a firm that seems to specialize in avoiding sanctions or something, rather than a massive media conspiracy. However, even the Guardian allowed the White House to edit Snowden articles so feel free to be paranoid. Jacob Appelbaum who helped publish pieces in the UK and Germany based on Snowden's leak, went hard against journalists who mishandled different leaks and brings up the above example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJValv4YQcY
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Wow, a lot of people not only assuming but hoping that various politicians (whom I assume they hate personally?) were dumb enough to use a sketchy holding company. Is it too much to expect that your hated Satan of choice was at the very least smart enough to use a better company? I mean hell, at least one poster hopes Obama is tied up in this, and he's just about the least scandal-ridden president to date. Quorum fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/306839585/Declaration-de-Mossak-Fonseca-en-anglais Via Wikileaks' twitter, the first official response from Mossack Fonseca.
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Mister Fister posted:http://indianexpress.com/article/in...-adani-brother/ lmao, well that certainly gives this scene a whole new meaning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io-AZoA3tTg turns out the thugs were tax collectors
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Quorum posted:Wow, a lot of people not only assuming but hoping that various politicians (whom I assume they hate personally?) were dumb enough to use a sketchy holding company. I'm wondering how/if this impacts the FIFA RICO case in the short term. Should be interesting if nothing else.
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TheQuietWilds posted:Yeah, if I worked in their IT shop I would be looking into a new identity right now or maybe a deserted island you could live on. They should move to the virgin islands, a good fit for IT people.
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