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 With the release of Season 3 of Killer Instinct as well as the PC port, I wanted to go ahead and start fresh with a new thread. After seeing a bit of positive buzz from you guys playing, I wanted to get some resources for a lot of the newer players. What is Killer Instinct? Killer Instinct is a Free to Play fighting game for the Xbox One and Windows 10. Originally helmed by Double Helix, Iron Galaxy took over the second season and have turned the game around. The game is divided into 3 seasons of 9 characters. The game rotates the free character weekly giving players to test out the cast without heavily invested. Characters can be bought in individuals seasons for 20 dollars or peace meal. A complete edition of the game with all 3 current seasons is being sold for 50 dollars. The game is both cross-play and cross-buy. Anything you buy on the Xbox One version carries into the Windows 10 version and vice versa. How Does it Play? Killer Instinct is unique from most fighters due to the way its combo system works. Combo's can be broken with specific button presses allowing a smart player to make a comeback from a particularly vicious attack. A lot of higher level play is based around this. The risk/reward system balances more damaging combos having a better chance to be broken. The longer your chain, the more chances an opponent has to knock you out of it. This is also balanced by the lockout systems. If your opponent makes a bad read they get locked out of another combo breaker for a set amount of time depending on the strength of the button. The general combo system also has a specific flow that looks like this: Opener ->auto double/manual->Linker->Ender There is a fair amount of variation between those, but that is what your general combo flow should look like. Combos are not infinite and each move of the string puts players closer to what is called a blowout. A blow out occurs when the player does too many hits in a combo without cashing out their damage with an ender. Cashing your combo out adds a significant damage boost and leaves your opponent at disadvantage. Letting your opponent blow out puts them at a small advantage and can kill momentum. I'll be giving some links to a better explanation of the systems in the next post. Features Killer Instinct is one of the more robust and fully featured fighting games. Some of the cooler stuff includes: -Fully fleshed out tutorial -Shadow A.I system that lets players play AI versions of themselves -A plethora of training modes and options including full combo breaker training, hitboxes, frame data -Character move lists include frame data for everything -Fairly diverse roster of playstyles and skill sets -Extensive Ranked league with tiers, options for best of 3 and 8 player lobby support Controller Support Killer Instinct right now only supports XB360 fight sticks with XB1 coming at a later date. For the rest of us who have PS3/4/etc sticks, this guide will help you make it possible to use those via XOutput. It's what I personally use and it is similar to what you have to do to make PS4 sticks work for SFV. https://www.reddit.com/r/killerinstinct/comments/4ciyx5/steps_to_getting_xoutput_to_work_with_ki_pc/ SethSeries fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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Where do I start with learning the game As stated in the prior post, the actual game tutorial is the best place for a new player. It is incredibly comprehensive and covers every system the game has in depth. It's an excellent resource. Once you feel comfortable with that, we move on to a different source material. The Guide Infil's SF Players Guide to Killer Instinct is by far the best resource for the game. It covers the finer points of the combat system as well as extensive guides for every single character in the game. It features gifs, videos and numerous explanations for anything you want to know about the game. It also is what the character descriptions I'm using come from. The guide can be found here: http://ki.infil.net/index.html Characters Jago http://ki.infil.net/jago.html Style: Balanced Most Similar To: Ryu Players to watch: YOMI JagoBlake Sabrewulf http://ki.infil.net/sabrewulf.html Style: Rushdown Most Similar To: Cammy, Guy Players to watch: EG Justin Wong, MyGod Glacius http://ki.infil.net/glacius.html Style: Zoning Most Similar To: Dhalism, Dormammu(UMvC3) Players to Watch: Rocksteady, F3 Hollywood Sleep Thunder http://ki.infil.net/thunder.html Style: Grappler Most Similar to: Zangief, T HAWK Players to watch: Rico Suave Sadira http://ki.infil.net/sadira.html Style: Aerial Rushdown Most Similar To: C. Viper, Ibuki, Akuma Players to Watch: TSwagg Orchid http://ki.infil.net/orchid.html Style: Rushdown Most Similar to: Fei Long, Dr Doom (UMvC3) Players to watch: YOMI Saltface Spinal: http://ki.infil.net/spinal.html Style: Projectile Rushdown Most Similar To: Seth, Makoto (If you replace command grab with skulls) Players to watch: BassNS Fulgore: http://ki.infil.net/fulgore.html Style: Balanced Most Similar to: Guile, Ken, Seth Players to watch: Nicky, Rico Suave Shadow Jago http://ki.infil.net/shadowjago.html Style: Balanced Most Similar to: Demetri TJ COMBO http://ki.infil.net/tjcombo.html Style: Grappler Rushdown Most Similar to: Balrog, Abel Players to watch: Rebelo Requisite Geoff the Hero tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNFhOwzNzCY Maya: http://ki.infil.net/maya.html Style: Projectile Rushdown Similar to: Nobody Players to watch: CD Jr. Kan-ra: http://ki.infil.net/kanra.html Style: Trap Zoning, Ranged Grappling Similar to: Uhh.... Players to Watch: F3 Hollywood Sleep Riptor http://ki.infil.net/riptor.html Most Similar to: El Fuerte, Dudley Style: Rushdown, Hit and Run Players to Watch: GfromtheStreets Omen http://ki.infil.net/omen.html Style: Balanced Most Similar To: Rose, Ibuki, Firebrand(UMvC3) Aganos: http://ki.infil.net/aganos.html Style: Armored Rushdown and Zoning Most Similar to: Charles Barkley's Monstars clone in Space Jam Hisako: http://ki.infil.net/hisako.html Style: Surprise Grappling, Counter-Attacking Most Similar To: Makoto, Cody, Rose Requisite GeoffTheHero Tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tb-A4f3VQY Cinder http://ki.infil.net/cinder.html Style: Highly Mobile Frame-Trap Rushdown, Hit and Run Most Similar To: Decapre, Magneto (Marvel vs. Capcom 3), Snake (Super Smash Bros. Project M) Players to Watch: DOMI Baal explaining Cinder in his car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2rWZN1PkTw Aria: http://ki.infil.net/aria.html Style: Balanced Most Similar To: Jago, with C. Viper, Fei Long, and Sagat flavors, on a Marvel vs. Capcom team Season 3's cast will be put up here as their guides are updated. TUSK http://ki.infil.net/tusk.html Style: Mid-range Bullying Most Similar To: Birdie (SFV), Waldstein (UNIEL) Rash Kim-Wu Arbiter http://ki.infil.net/arbiter.html Style: Balanced, Trap-Based Mixups Most Similar To: Arbiter (Halo series) Mira Current trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHqhxGE-IyA IG offical character walkthrough: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmwstSikfuY SethSeries fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Apr 4, 2016 04:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqg23EkE-QE
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Apr 4, 2016 05:03
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No, but for real KI's actually pretty fun.
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Apr 4, 2016 05:05
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Get this if you wanna use a PS4 controller: DS4windows It's good poo poo.
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Apr 4, 2016 05:18
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I'll update the OP with that in the morning.
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Apr 4, 2016 05:19
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I think this game became a lot more fun during Season 2. I liked the Battletoad when everyone could test him. Will probably wait until it's on sale before getting season 3.
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Apr 4, 2016 06:40
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KI is a game that is entirely too good to be saddled on the windows store and xbone. i can do a million hits as a man who is bad at fighting games and thats the good poo poo.
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Apr 4, 2016 12:07
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Killer instinct is the best fighting game released for PC in 2016.
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SFV refugee reporting in. I have only paid attention to KI with mild amusement until now. The pc version is a great port and the game has a truly sick feature set for a fighting game. I am extremely impressed. I've actually barely played any matches in this so far because the super open ended nature of the combo systems (having to pluralize that word is strange!) is overloading my baby street fighter brain that is used to short combos and obvious optimizations. I think a ton of the design decisions in this game are really smart and others are at least interesting risks to have taken. I think it's obvious the devs understand a lot about what makes fighting games fun and also competitively solid. The level of detail in the patch notes also shows a level of competency I am not used to seeing from game devs in general (particularly Capcom-housed ones) and is definitely not what I expected from a pseudo-f2p title. Anyway I'm saying this game seems really cool so please give it a try!
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I jumped in online playing Hisako (ghost waifu is the best) and made a player whine "~I hate cheap players~" over the mic as he leapt into my anti air again and again and again so game owns as far as I'm concerned. (I'm terrible and the next person Stage Ultra'd me into brutal submission)
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Whoa. I thought KI was generally considered a Really Bad Game(tm) around here, so I certainly didn't expect to ever see a thread for it. I'm glad there is one now, though, because even with its issues it's been my favorite Xbox One game since launch. I need to get in on season 3 action and try out the PC version as well, so you all can kick the poo poo out of me with 280-hit ultras. PLAY HARD WITH THE FEELING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxpZaBwznxs
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Apr 4, 2016 13:27
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The general consensus was that KI was a good game shackled by a bad console. It is a great game that has a lot of tools to help new players. Speaking of, my XBL/Win10 name is ManSeriesSA. Ill be on most nights this week learning Kim Wu. I'll also ve updaing the op throughout the week.
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Apr 4, 2016 13:32
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KI S1 seemed pretty poo poo but once Iron Galaxy took over they kind of made a decent game out of it. I mean as decent as a KI could probably be. I'm enjoying it.
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In spite of it's reputation as a game that's only about long, flashy combos and garish particle effects, KI is actually a deep game about player psychology, footsies (yes, you can win with just footsies), zoning, rushdown, mixups, and meaningful player choice. Unless you make mistake or a bad guess during a combo, at no point during a match are you a passive observer to your rear end getting kicked. Similarly, if you're dishing out the combo, you're not reduced to being a meat robot pushing buttons to make an optimized combo happen, because the other guy has a say in if you'll succeed. In fact, the optimal damage combo can often be the least successful option you can choose, because it will almost always be the easiest to break. I like KI a lot because it isn't a rock, paper, scissors guessing game, but because it's a game where you have to make decisions that will be rewarded or punished depending on if you got them right.
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My first game was a Shadow Jago utterly destroying my poo poo. It was like trying to fist fight a loving tornado. I cant wait to git gudder.
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can i use xbox point cards to buy stuff on pc im not giving ms any payment info ever again
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Apr 4, 2016 16:46
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:can i use xbox point cards to buy stuff on pc Im not sure. I think you can through the xbox store but dont quote me.
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Apr 4, 2016 17:08
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I'm trying to download it from the Store but it says I need the latest Windows Update for Windows 10. When I try installing the latest update it doesn't let me.
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Sodomy Non Sapiens posted:I jumped in online playing Hisako (ghost waifu is the best) and made a player whine "~I hate cheap players~" over the mic as he leapt into my anti air again and again and again so game owns as far as I'm concerned. Posting this again. https://a.pomf.cat/tehiot.webm Game is fun and worth playing. Europe to USA is more than playable, it's great. Lots of bad players to grind on while picking the game up. I hope SFV picks up within the next 6 months because the features this game has just poo poo all over what Capcom has offered.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I'm trying to download it from the Store but it says I need the latest Windows Update for Windows 10. When I try installing the latest update it doesn't let me. Check the ultra-combo.com forums. I recall seeing a fix for this on there.
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I am finding this game to be measurably more enjoyable than SF5. Orchid owns super hard
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Of loving course the Fei Long player likes Orchid.
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what does it cost. i dont think im gonna buy it it looks terrible but still i want to know
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Buhbuhj posted:Of loving course the Fei Long player likes Orchid. dangerdoom volvo posted:what does it cost. i dont think im gonna buy it it looks terrible but still i want to know
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dangerdoom volvo posted:what does it cost. i dont think im gonna buy it it looks terrible but still i want to know Nothing if you want to download the game and play the free rotational character in all game modes, 5 bux if you want to buy one character,20-40 buxx plus your prejudices if you want to buy the larger packages. At this time, the most you can spend on the game is something like 50 dollars, which gets you every character from every season and every money costume accessory.
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I'm enjoying the game even though I don't have the money at the moment to play anyone other than the free character. I've managed to beat a couple level 50/50 people with Sabrewulf, but that may have just been dumb luck. Weirdest thing so far was beating a Jago with just a sliver of my life left, and watching the replay of the fight, I lost? It was weird. I watched the replay a second time and the fight played out differently and I still lost, but the Jago had almost a full red health bar that time. It was weird, has anyone else encountered that? Other than that, great game, when does it switch free characters? I've gotten to level 14 with Sabrewulf but I'd like to try someone else.
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50/50 level often just means they've grinded the single-player content enough to get all the unlocks, it doesn't mean anything. They can still be trash garbage at the game itself. The free character changes every 2-3 weeks I think.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:can i use xbox point cards to buy stuff on pc I was trying to find this out too. People are saying yes but you gotta like, buy the Xblox version on their site since it's cross-buy so getting that will get it for your PC-version too. (That version's also another  though Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Apr 4, 2016 |
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Regardless of whether the Goon Hivemind opinion is "KI is bad and you are bad for liking it" or "KI isn't bad shut up", the one consensus is that the music was really good for the first two seasons. So of course the guy who did those tracks is gone and the ones for season 3 are kinda meh. Tusk is okay with all of the Viking stuff, Arbiter's got some Halo influence as you'd expect, but Kim Wu is a whiff and I wasn't impressed by Rash. The problem is that all of the new tracks are electric guitar based whereas the first two seasons had a lot of diversity in theme and execution. I'm hoping as new characters get released we'll get some more variety in the themes but I'm not holding my breath.
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Picked this up over the weekend, really really fun so far. My new gsync crazy refresh rate monitor arrives today though and I heard the game has problems with that. Have they said when a fix for that will be out?
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Mr.Citrus posted:Picked this up over the weekend, really really fun so far. No, but one of the splash screens when you first start the game says that they're aware of it and are working on it.
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It kinda sucks that you cant try characters out before buying them. I'm actually enjoying myself but I'm stuck with the free Saberwulf forever because I dont wanna give the Windows store 50 bucks for the whole package, but I dont wanna single characters unless I know who I'll enjoy. Based on appearance alone though, I'd love to play HIsako
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Apr 5, 2016 04:02
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What did the tier list for season 2 look like?
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Gutcruncher posted:It kinda sucks that you cant try characters out before buying them. I'm actually enjoying myself but I'm stuck with the free Saberwulf forever because I dont wanna give the Windows store 50 bucks for the whole package, but I dont wanna single characters unless I know who I'll enjoy. I'd say the OP does swell explaining most. Really are some oddballs in the roster though. Nothing really quite captures feeling a character out though. Except Rash. I almost wanna write him off as a joke character.
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So, accepting that combo breakers have to exist in Killer Instinct, I really like most of the design decisions in this game, but I find one aspect really confusing: When you want to do the heavy version of a linker in a combo you have to hold down the button while doing the L or M version of the move, since the H version gives you the "ender" version of the move at that point. This seems backwards to me, why not just make H version of specials function as linkers the same way and make it so you hold down any strength button to do the ender version and cash out your combo? If anyone knows a technical reason for this or any other explanation I'd love to hear it cause it seems very un-intuitive to the point that I can't actually understand why they would make that decision. I guess in the end it doesn't really matter cause practice and muscle memory will make it all function the same but it just seems like a significant misstep for something that had an obvious and easier implementation.
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I don't like that you can't record in training mode for characters you don't own. I wanted to see what you can do about the frogs wrecking ball and tongue snatch moves because literally everyone I've seen just uses the tongue to get in and the ball at random.
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:I don't like that you can't record in training mode for characters you don't own. I wanted to see what you can do about the frogs wrecking ball and tongue snatch moves because literally everyone I've seen just uses the tongue to get in and the ball at random. the tongue is a really good cross-up tool. i kinda feel it also has some good escape capabilities but i haven't been able to test it out yet. the wrecking ball has one hit of super armor after start up so its a pretty safe way to get in people's faces overall especially if you follow it up with a jumping medium kick if you fail to him them with the wrecking ball itself. (lot of KI players don't anticipate blocking that)
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I thyink you can DP the wrecking ball on block, but not sure. Xbox users can also send you salty ragemail if you're on PC, just open the xbox app and you'll receive them. Reminds me of old GFWL days.
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Gutcruncher posted:It kinda sucks that you cant try characters out before buying them. I'm actually enjoying myself but I'm stuck with the free Saberwulf forever because I dont wanna give the Windows store 50 bucks for the whole package, but I dont wanna single characters unless I know who I'll enjoy. The free character rotates every few weeks. Also, you don't have to buy the big package to get a bunch of characters.
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