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Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
Vincent Freeman was diagnosed with a congenital heart condition that could kill him at any time after the age of thirty, as well as nearsightedness. He hides these handicaps from his employers at the space program (by assuming the identity of someone with a more suitable genetic profile) and through hard work and determination, earns a spot on the Mars mission. Hooray! Triumph of the human spirit over cold genetic calculation, right?

Wrong.

Vincent Freeman is endangering the lives of his fellow astronauts and the viability of the Mars mission. What happens when he has a heart attack halfway between Earth and Mars, huh? What happens when he runs out of saline solution for his contact lenses after six months? Because there's no way he brought an eight year supply.

What happens when one of his contacts gets dislodged during a spacewalk and he can't fix it because of his space suit, and his hand eye coordination is severely impaired?

And even if nothing bad happens, are we to assume also that none of his fellow astronauts are going to notice he's putting in contact lenses every day? How can they trust him once they discover he's not who he said he was?

I'm not denying that what Vincent did was a major accomplishment, nor that he overcame seemingly impossible odds to accomplish his dream, but he was so focused on whether he could do it, he never stopped to ask himself whether he should.

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Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Johnny Aztec posted:

Maybe he got that laser eye surgery off screen before the last scene.

We can only hope.

Though I doubt it as the whole reason he didn't get laser eye surgery in the first place was that the scars are detectable.

I haven't seen the movie in over a decade so I don't remember if the space program did any other tests besides the urine sample immediately before the mission.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Fishy Joe posted:

I thought it was a prison???

You're thinking of Attica.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

No. 6 posted:

I thought it was to Saturn and not Mars, OP? Maybe your parents should have paid the geneticist more to give you better brain think meat.

Well if it's Saturn that makes it even worse because Saturn is farther away. Gives his ticker even more time to conk out.
And very few days go by where I don't wish I'd been a designer baby so I'm with you on that.

ArmZ posted:

he was in a ship by himself. theory destroyed.

I would have sworn there were at least two other astronauts on the mission.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Frankenstyle posted:

Wait. I thought he ended up in imagination land cause he went nuts while Monty Python in a baby mask tortured him.

No that was 12 Monkeys.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

The Dennis System posted:

The Gattaca world doesn't seem like a nightmare distopya to me. Sure the genetically unengineered are an underclass who have to do janitorial work, but the society seems better overall than the society we have now. Then again, maybe the Gattacaverse was never meant to be a nightmare future, just a flawed one.

Yeah I agree. We'd probably be a lot better off with designer baby technology.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Sialia posted:

It's pretty retarded, there is no way he will not be discovered in space anyway, and then he will be remembered as a criminal. Additionally, there was never any proof there wasn't a heart condition, we just didn't see it yet. He may well have developed something after launch

Imagine the damage he would do to the social standing of in-valids if he had a heart attack in space and it came out he cheated the system. He's not just screwing over his fellow astronauts, but every non-designer baby on Earth.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

this movie was against social darwinism and I disapprove!

also I just learned that chrome auto-capitalizes darwinism :lol:

I'm against recklessly endangering the lives of astronauts.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

John Denver Hoxha posted:

really his parents are the jerks for having hosed up cum and egg

Yeah seriously they should have sprung for the friggin' designer package.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Cockmaster posted:

Which does raise an interesting question: Is there any ethical excuse to let a child suffer from a debilitating condition because the only effective treatment to prevent it is too unnatural for your liking?

None that I can see. Objecting to designer babies is tantamount to saying you think it's good and right that some people be born with congenital disabilities.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Pawn 17 posted:

What are they gunna do? Turn the shuttle back? Do you have any idea how much it costs to launch a shuttle to mars? Even in the future, they'd be like *ehh*, gently caress it. Then they would crack down on testing 10x as hard on the rest of the workers LOL

Exactly, Vincent's little stunt basically hosed everyone over on the ship and Earth. Congratulations on being the last in-valid who will ever even get to look at a spaceship, dickhead.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

MeLKoR posted:

Why did they scan everyone every day? People usually don't have to show their ID every day in case someone shows up at the office and starts pretending to be them while no one else notices.

The movie takes place in the same shared universe and at the same time as Minority Report. It's just neither movie bothers to mention the other so it's not obvious.

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Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
You can read all about it in my fanfiction: the Gattaca Report on Fanfiction.net.

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