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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

Doctor Schnabel posted:

"literary" authors shamefully sniffing their own farts and then writing about their own farts is why all the real creatives moved on to memes and twitter btw

140 char stanza is the iambic pentameter of our times

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Doctor Schnabel posted:

"literary" authors shamefully sniffing their own farts and then writing about their own farts is why all the real creatives moved on to memes and twitter btw
22 Times Black Twitter DESTROYED James Joyce' Gassy Prose

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
After reading his letters I would say beta bitch

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I wish I could see James Joyce reaction to 2 girls 1 cup.

Dogstoyevsky
Oct 9, 2012

If there is no Dog, everything is permitted
Ulysses is dense as gently caress, but I think you can read something like Chapter 12 (Cyclops) and really appreciate it without having to do too much fart-huffing. If I was going to read the whole thing again I think I'd need someone to hold my hand, but there's really a lot there.

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



st1LL_51ngl3 posted:

I've read Ulysses, apparently the bulk of Finnegan's Wake is even more word-salad (which is no easy feat), and the fart letter is probably the longest contiguous stretch of semi-coherent writing of his I've ever come across.


This.

I don't remember which one it was (I think Finnegan's Wake?) but Joyce also had some kind of lovely self insert proto-Mary Sue character in it.

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon

Gaunab posted:

I wish I could see James Joyce reaction to 2 girls 1 cup.

A boner, presumably.

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


Cuckoo posted:



I don't remember which one it was (I think Finnegan's Wake?) but Joyce also had some kind of lovely self insert proto-Mary Sue character in it.

I don't remember which book it was, or what the words were, or what exactly I'm talking about.. but you need to stfu

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

Doctor Schnabel posted:

"literary" authors shamefully sniffing their own farts and then writing about their own farts is why all the real creatives moved on to memes and twitter btw

Joyce's work is so full of product placement, pop song hooks becoming ear worms, lovely advertisement slogans and puns, dudes brainstorming their own lovely advertisement slogans, guys thinking that their own farts could be songs that some think he's one of the first to really write about this particular age of media saturation and destroying notions of high brow/low brow in capitol L literature. All of Ulysses is basically about how the random thoughts and observations of a middle class CuCk going to work supercede something like Homer's Odyssey.

He's often mistaken as snob but he was pretty egalitarian at least when you get down to content. If he was alive today he would probably either be a genius who wasted his time masturbating to poo poo porn and writing deviantart erotica though

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Doctor Schnabel posted:

wait i thought ulysses was the incomprehensible pile of garbage. is there anything this guy wrote that wasnt toilet paper??

what no lol it's pretty easy bud there's a jerk off scene and a funny cyclops scene where an irish nationalist gets all riled up about a jew and a nightclub scene where they all get drunk and rowdy and a catechism scene, it's all pretty easy to read and makes plenty of sense

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Cuckoo posted:

This.

I don't remember which one it was (I think Finnegan's Wake?) but Joyce also had some kind of lovely self insert proto-Mary Sue character in it.

portrait of the artist is entirely about his mary sue, and the same char (stephen dedalus) functions as the telemachus stand-in in ulysses

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

nomadologique posted:

portrait of the artist is entirely about his mary sue, and the same char (stephen dedalus) functions as the telemachus stand-in in ulysses

wouldnt even use mary sue, the guy wimps out in front of dogs and I forgot how it goes but he feels alpha'd by Buck Mulligan cause Buck saved a drowning man when Stephen stood aside afraid to get into the water or something.

The funny/sad thing is that Buck Mulligan's real-life counterpart really did save some one from drowning and was pretty much a smart, kind-hearted stand up citizen dedicating his mind and energy toward being a doctor. He felt James Joyce ruined his reputation and made his existence a big joke by portraying him as a fat cad with no centre throughout the book.

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


Idk what Mary Sue is but I bet it's something really stupid and meaningless like cuck because gokns really love to use it

Kitsunegari
Aug 5, 2013
James Joyce is good sorry if you're a dimwit and don't get it/can't read

Kitsunegari
Aug 5, 2013

Carmant posted:

Idk what Mary Sue is but I bet it's something really stupid and meaningless like cuck because gokns really love to use it

You're right, essentially it's a litmus test for if someone spends too much time online when they treat it like it's a real word/okay to use in conversation

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

Carmant posted:

Idk what Mary Sue is but I bet it's something really stupid and meaningless like cuck because gokns really love to use it

good, nevver learn it. also u havnt read any op-ed pieces about star wars: the force awakens which is how the term burrowed into my brains

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

The Dennis System posted:

Didn't Joyce just write a bunch of nonsense and people only pretend to understand or like it to seem smart??


makes sense to me.

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations
In one of his letters he asked Nora to rub the next letter she sends to him in her crack so he can smell her butt when it arrived and that's something that even modern sexting cant transmit even tho im sure the japanese are working on that but anyway he was ahead of his time

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot

whoflungpoop posted:

To NORA Dublin  8 December 1909

 My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off ...

At every gently caress I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger gently caress than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside.

You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I hosed them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole.

It is wonderful to gently caress a farting woman when every gently caress drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also. 

For a poet he sure sucked at writing perverse love letters.

Kitsunegari
Aug 5, 2013

whoflungpoop posted:

In one of his letters he asked Nora to rub the next letter she sends to him in her crack so he can smell her butt when it arrived and that's something that even modern sexting cant transmit even tho im sure the japanese are working on that but anyway he was ahead of his time

- skid on this letter boo I want to taste test your poo poo

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Doctor Schnabel posted:

wait i thought ulysses was the incomprehensible pile of garbage. is there anything this guy wrote that wasnt toilet paper??

This is the kind of poo poo you say once at a party and no one wants to talk to you afterwards.

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Sheep-Goats posted:

This is the kind of poo poo you say once at a party and no one wants to talk to you afterwards.

Yeah, Ulysses wasn't that dense. Wake is the literal pile of incomprehensible garbage that even his wife thought was insane.

Falun Bong Refugee fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Apr 15, 2016

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Wake is incomprehensible but it's not garbage.

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations

Doctor Schnabel posted:

do you understand it, smart guy?!

you dont have to be smart to understand ulysses

but you do have to study it and gain familiarity with his references (read:entire western canon) and and treat it like almost like something to be researched before you come to see that yeah wow this really is deep and has stuff pinging on things and levels that you couldnt see at first and draws all of it together into the context of his time and ireland and then its like wow yeah dude im starting to get it there's actually a substantive and uniquely powerful beauty behind what at first might look like madness

if you dont want to :effort: it then dont cuz yeah its a lot of work if you dont really care but like anything else in the world it isnt about smarts its about getting out what you put in

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

whoflungpoop posted:

you dont have to be smart to understand ulysses

but you do have to study it and gain familiarity with his references (read:entire western canon) and and treat it like almost like something to be researched before you come to see that yeah wow this really is deep and has stuff pinging on things and levels that you couldnt see at first and draws all of it together into the context of his time and ireland and then its like wow yeah dude im starting to get it there's actually a substantive and uniquely powerful beauty behind what at first might look like madness

if you dont want to :effort: it then dont cuz yeah its a lot of work if you dont really care but like anything else in the world it isnt about smarts its about getting out what you put in

Anthropology major.txt.

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Sheep-Goats posted:

This is the kind of poo poo you say once at a party and no one wants to talk to you afterwards.

okay FIRST off, it must be a pretty miserable party if it degenerates into joyce chat

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

Anthropology major.txt.

idgi

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Doctor Schnabel posted:

okay FIRST off, it must be a pretty miserable party if it degenerates into joyce chat

Seriously

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations
Also there was a letter where he was tuggin it to the idea of her touching herself in a closet and pooping and he was really trying hard to pin down when she would poop, like was it during :shlick: or whether shed wait till she came and then just leave a postorgasmal donk in the closet.

Im not sure if he had a preference as to which but he seemed really curious about both of these options

Doctor Schnabel posted:

okay FIRST off, it must be a pretty miserable party if it degenerates into joyce chat
yalls friends are kinda dumb right

whoflungpoop fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Apr 15, 2016

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015

his letter about licking butthole is better than most college papers i read so cool i guess

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
lemme ask ya this, bucko: would you like to have a nice beer and an enjoyable time with some dummies, or a discussion about modernist lit with ozma?

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
I bet if you have your head far enough up your rear end and are willing to spend a lot of time pontificating about it, Sonichu fanfics are on the same level as Finnegan Wake.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

whoflungpoop posted:

you dont have to be smart to understand ulysses

but you do have to study it and gain familiarity with his references (read:entire western canon) and and treat it like almost like something to be researched before you come to see that yeah wow this really is deep and has stuff pinging on things and levels that you couldnt see at first and draws all of it together into the context of his time and ireland and then its like wow yeah dude im starting to get it there's actually a substantive and uniquely powerful beauty behind what at first might look like madness

if you dont want to :effort: it then dont cuz yeah its a lot of work if you dont really care but like anything else in the world it isnt about smarts its about getting out what you put in

whoflung you're marrying the wrong man

:h:

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Doctor Schnabel posted:

okay FIRST off, it must be a pretty miserable party if it degenerates into joyce chat

Welcome to Shithead, Nebraska. We know how to parrrrrrtayyyyyyyy

raton fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Apr 15, 2016

Utz
Aug 1, 2008

by vyelkin

Colonel Cancer posted:

I bet if you have your head far enough up your rear end and are willing to spend a lot of time pontificating about it, Sonichu fanfics are on the same level as Finnegan Wake.

You're one dumb motherfucker, aren't you?

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Whole lot of really stupid assholes itt

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer
i dont know james joyce is he like stephen king?

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015

JiveHonky posted:

i dont know james joyce is he like stephen king?

yeah

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

No one expects you to. It's not you're fault.

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May 29, 2011



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