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Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016



Discord if you want to play or guest with us:

VIDEOS:
Playlist of entire LP thus far
1992

Wolfenstein 3D:
Part 1/6
Part 2/6
Part 3/6
Part 4/6
Part 5/6
Part 6/6

Commander Keen 1: (Released 1990)
Part 1/1 (Part 7 Overall)

Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny
Part 1/4 (Part 8 Overall)
Part 2/4 (Part 9 Overall)
Part 3/4 (Part 10 Overall)
Part 4/4 (Part 11 Overall)

Catacomb 3D (Released 1991)
Part 1/1 (Part 12 Overall)
[img]http://lpix.org/2471018/sha]dowcaster.png[/img]
Shadowcaster (Released 1993)
Part 1/1 (Part 13 Overall)


Blake Stone:Aliens of Gold/Planet Strike(Released 1993,1994)
Part 1/1 (Part 14 Overall)


Capstone Games(1994?)
Part 1/1 (Part 15 Overall)

Super 3D Noah's Ark(1995)
Part 1/1 (Part 16 Overall)

Rise of the Triad/Extreme Rise of the Triad(1994,1995)
Part 1/1 (Part 17 Overall)

1993

Doom:
Part 1/6 (Part 18 Overall)
Part 2/6 (Part 19 Overall)
Part 3/6 (Part 20 Overall)
Part 4/6 (Part 21 Overall)
Part 5/6 (Part 22 Overall)
Part 6/6 (Part 23 Overall)


Commander Keen 2: The Earth Explodes(Released 1990)
Part 1/1 (Part 24 Overall)

1994

Wolfenstein 3D SNES Port:
Part 1/1 (Part 25 Overall)


Spear of Destiny Mission Pack 1: Return to Danger:
Part 1/2 (Part 26 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 27 Overall)


Spear of Destiny Mission Pack 2: The Ultimate Challenge:
Part1/1 (Part 28 Overall)


Wolfenstein 3D Mac Port:
Part 1/1 (Part 29 Overall)

Top 10 Wads of 1994
Parts 30-47


Doom II: Hell on Earth
Part 1/10 (Part 48 Overall)
Part 2/10 (Part 49 Overall)
Part 3/10 (Part 50 Overall)
Part 4/10 (Part 51 Overall)
Part 5/10 (Part 52 Overall)
Part 6/10 (Part 53 Overall)
Part 7/10 (Part 54 Overall)
Part 8/10 (Part 55 Overall)
Part 9/10 (Part 56 Overall)
Part 10/10 (Part 57 Overall)


Heretic
Part 1/6 (Part 58 Overall)
Part 2/6 (Part 59 Overall)
Part 3/6 (Part 60 Overall)
Part 4/6 (Part 61 Overall)
Part 5/6 (Part 62 Overall)
Part 6/6 (Part 63 Overall)


Commander Keen 3: Keen Must Die (Released 1990)
Part 1/1 (Part 64 Overall)


Doom Sega 32X Port (Part 65 Overall)



Doom Atari Jaguar Port (Part 66 Overall)



DEU -- Creating our first map (Part 67 Overall)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cuew1040yvofw6j/DEUTEMIN.WAD?dl=0
You can download it here if you want.


The Lost Episodes of Doom
Part 1/3 (Part 98 Overall)
Part 2/3 (Part 99 Overall)
Part 3/3 (Part 100 Overall)

100th EPISODE SPECIAL -- Stuff I Missed Part 1/? (Part 101 Overall)



The Ultimate Doom -- Thy Flesh Consumed
Part 7/6 (Part 102 Overall)
Part 8/6 (Part 103 Overall)


SNES Doom Port
Part 1/1 (Part 104 Overall)


Hexen: Beyond Heretic
Part 1/8 (Part 105 Overall)
Part 2/8 (Part 106 Overall)
Part 3/8 (Part 107 Overall)
Part 4/8 (Part 108 Overall)
Part 5/8 (Part 109 Overall)
Part 6/8 (Part 110 Overall)
Part 7/8 (Part 111 Overall)
Part 8/8 (Part 112 Overall)


Doom: Custom Playstation Edition
Part 1/3 (Part 113 Overall)
Part 2/3 (Part 114 Overall)
Part 3/3 (Part 115 Overall)


Keen Dreams
Part 1/1 (Part 116 Overall)


Master Levels for Doom II
Part 1/6 (Part 117 Overall)
Part 2/6 (Part 118 Overall)
Part 3/6 (Part 119 Overall)
Part 4/6 (Part 120 Overall)
Part 5/6 (Part 121 Overall)
Part 6/6 (Part 122 Overall)


DETH -- The Joy of Teleportation (Part 123 Overall)

Get the wad here if you'd like: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7hfqlbzqe9b79w2/TEMNPORT.WAD?dl=0


Chex Quest
Part 1/1 (Part 169 Overall)


Doom 3DO Port
Part 1/1(Part 170 Overall)


Hexen: Deathkings of the Dark Citadel
Part 1/5 (Part 171 Overall)
Part 2/5 (Part 172 Overall)
Part 3/5 (Part 173 Overall)
Part 4/5 (Part 174 Overall)
Part 5/5 (Part 175 Overall)


QTest
Part 1/1 (Part 176 Overall)


Heretic: Shadow of the Serpent Riders
Part 1/4 (Part 177 Overall)
Part 2/4 (Part 178 Overall)
Part 3/4 (Part 179 Overall)
Part 4/4 (Part 180 Overall)
Part 5/4 (Part 181 Overall)


Commadner Keen 4
Part 1/2 (Part 182 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 183 Overall)


Strife: Quest for the Sigil
Part 1/6 (Part 184 Overall)
Part 2/6 (Part 185 Overall)
Part 3/6 (Part 186 Overall)
Part 4/6 (Part 187 Overall)
Part 5/6 (Part 188 Overall)
Part 6/6 (Part 189 Overall)


Final Doom -- TNT: Evilution
Part 1/8 (Part 190 Overall)
Part 2/8 (Part 191 Overall)
Part 3/8 (Part 192 Overall)
Part 4/8 (Part 193 Overall)
Part 5/8 (Part 194 Overall)
Part 6/8 (Part 195 Overall)
Part 7/8 (Part 196 Overall)
Part 8/8 (Part 197 Overall)

~200th Episode Special! (Part 198 Overall)


Final Doom -- The Plutonia Experiment
Part 1/6 (Part 199 Overall)


INTRO:
Welcome to a completely original idea!
Doom holds a very special place in my heart. Developed by a handful of dudes in Mesquite, Texas, and uploaded as shareware on December 10th, 1993, Doom was a multi-million dollar making masterpiece of a game. It revolutionized the First Person Shooting genre (which had actually been referred to as the Doom clone genre back in the day), and became, as ID software predicted, "The number one cause of decreased productivity in businesses around the world" for a couple of years. ID software's story is quite fascinating to me, and seeing as there is a new Doom game on the horizon, I think now is as good time to take a look back at ID's legacy.

WHO WE ARE:
I'm Temin_Dump. I've been playing doom ever since it first came out. (Yes, ever since I was a little baby.) Having played these games a million and a half times, I'd say I'm pretty qualified to go through with this journey. Joining me is my good friend, Redysseus, and internet friend Explosive Coffee Salesman (Albeit a bit less frequently than us two.). Both pretty big fans of the Doom games. My aim is to deliver as much informative commentary and background for these games as possible, while filling the rest of the time with dumb banter with my buddies. I am also open to having other guests on board as well, so if you want to join us, just shoot me a message, or you can contact me on Skype (Temin Dump).

FORMAT:
I plan on releasing videos on a weekly basis (with some hiatuses between games to build up a small backlog of recordings) The goal is to start with ID's first commercial FPS (Wolfenstein 3D), and work our way up to the new Doom game. I also plan on covering the many various ports of these games as bonus videos.

20 Years of Doom may sound like a misnomer, but believe me, there will be more Doom than anything else in this thread by the end of it. Since Doom is well known for its huge modding capabilities, we will also be looking at ~20 years of doom mods as well. The main source of these wads will be the Cacowards on Doomworld.com. I'm completely open to any suggestions for mods, so feel free to send some our way. I also want to take a look at some mods for other ID games, but I'm not quite as familiar with mods for games other than doom. Mod suggestions for Wolf 3D, the Quake series, and Doom 3 will also be greatly appreciated.

MULTIPLAYER:
I plan on streaming multiplayer for any of the games on the list that have that capability. We will have Co-op streams and Deathmatch streams. For coop, the idea is to see how quickly the three of us can blast through the games together. For deathmatch scenarios, I'd like to have some goons join me and my friends for some mindless fun.

THE GAME LIST
(Big thanks to Red for this image.)

(And also, like a million wads and other surprises. I'll update the full list here.)

Temin_Dump fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Mar 18, 2021

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Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

20 Years of Doom Mods

Note to self: Make this post better later...

1994 Mods

Crossing Acheron -- By John "Dr. Sleep" Anderson
Part 1/1 (Part 30 Overall)


Doomsday of UAC -- By Leo Martin Lim
Part 1/1 (Part 31 Overall)


Galaxia.wad by Pavel Hodek
Part 1/1 (Part 32 Overall)


Slaughter Until Death by The Innocent Crew
Part 1/2 (Part 33 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 34 Overall)


Return To Phobos -- By Michael Kelsey
Part 1/2 (Part 35 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 36 Overall)


The Unholy Trinity by Steve McCrea, Simon Wall, and Elias Papavassilopoulos.
Part 1/1 (Part 37 Overall)


The Evil Unleashed -- By The Innocent Crew
Part 1/4 (Part 38 Overall)
Part 2/4 (Part 39 Overall)
Part 3/4 (Part 40 Overall)
Part 4/4 (Part 41 Overall)


Aliens T.C. By Justin Fisher
Part 1/2 (Part 42 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 43 Overall)


Serenity -- By Bjorn Hermans and Holger Nathrath
Part 1/2 (Part 44 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 45 Overall)


Eternity.wad -- By Bjorn Hermans and Holger Nathrath
Part 1/2 (Part 46 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 47 Overall)

1994 Bonus Videos

Doom II Map 29 Pistol Start


Part 1/2 -- Hallowein 3D by Bill Neisius

Part 2/2 -- Halloween DOOM by Carl Schrammel, Steve Belinkoff, and Jeremy Nimmer


1995 Mods

Doom 3: Mr. Smiley Head's Safari by some kids somewhere.
Part 1/1 (Part 68 Overall)


H2H Xmas by H2H Gaming Network
Part 1/9 (Part 69 Overall)
Part 2/9 (Part 70 Overall)
Part 3/9 (Part 71 Overall)
Part 4/9 (Part 72 Overall)
Part 5/9 (Part 73 Overall)
Part 6/9 (Part 74 Overall)
part 7/9 (Part 75 Overall)
Part 8/9 (Part 76 Overall)
Part 9/9 (Part 77 Overall)


Enigma By Jim Flynn
Part 1/5 (Part 78 Overall)
Part 2/5 (Part 79 Overall)
Part 3/5 (Part 80 Overall)
Part 4/5 (Part 81 Overall)
Part 5/5 (Part 82 Overall)


A Fistful of Doom by Wad Factory
Part 1/1 (Part 83 Overall)


Obituary By The Innocent Crew
Part 1/7 (Part 84 Overall)
Part 2/7 (Part 85 Overall)
Part 3/7 (Part 86 Overall)
Part 4/7 (Part 87 Overall)
Part 5/7 (Part 88 Overall)
Part 6/7 (Part 89 Overall)
Part 7/7 (Part 90 Overall)


Infinity by Bjorn Hermans and Holger Nathrath
Part 1/2 (Part 91 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 92 Overall)


The Final Gathering by Daniel "Stormin" Norman
Part 1/1 (Part 93 Overall)


DWANGO5 by the internet circa 1995 ft. Bob Huntley
Part 1/1 (Part 94 Overall)


Fava Beans by Sean Birkel
Part 1/1 (Part 95 Overall)


The Artifact by Paul Schmitz
Part 1/1 (Part 96 Overall)


Nostromo's Run by Rich "Nostromo" Johnston
Part 1/1 (Part 97 Overall)

1996 Mods

Polygon Base by Rick Lipsey
Part 1/1 (Part 124 Overall)



Memento Mori by the Memento Mori Crew
Part 1/10 (Part 125 Overall)
Part 2/10 (Part 126 Overall)
Part 3/10 (Part 127 Overall)
Part 4/10 (Part 128 Overall)
Part 5/10 (Part 129 Overall)
Part 6/10 (Part 130 Overall)
Part 7/10 (Part 131 Overall)
Part 8/10 (Part 132 Overall)
Part 9/10 (Part 133 Overall)
Part 10/10 (Part 134 Overall)



The Trooper's Playground by Matthias Worch
Part 1/3 (Part 135 Overall)
Part 2/3 (Part 136 Overall)
Part 3/3 (Part 137 Overall)



]Icarus: Alien Vanguard by Team TNT
Part 1/7 (Part 138 Overall)
Part 2/7 (Part 139 Overall)
Part 3/7 (Part 140 Overall)
Part 4/7 (Part 141 Overall)
Part 5/7 (Part 142 Overall)
Part 6/7 (Part 143 Overall)
Part 7/7 (Part 144 Overall)


Marine Doom by Daniel G. Snyder
Part 1/1 (Part 145 Overall)


99 Ways to Die by Warren Marshall
Part 1/1 (Part 146 Overall)


A Hidden Mountain Factory by Grzegorz Werner
Part 1/1 (Part 147 Overall)


Dystopia 3 by Anthony Czerwonka and Iikka Keränen
Part 1/3 (Part 148 Overall)
Part 2/3 (Part 149 Overall)
Part 3/3 (Part 150 Overall)


All Hell is Breaking Loose by Joel Huenink
Part 1/1 (Part 151 Overall)


Memento Mori II By the Memento Mori Crew
Part 1/11 (Part 152 Overall)
Part 2/11 (Part 153 Overall)
Part 3/11 (Part 154 Overall)
Part 4/11 (Part 155 Overall)
Part 5/11 (Part 156 Overall)
Part 6/11 (Part 157 Overall)
Part 7/11 (Part 158 Overall)
Part 8/11 (Part 159 Overall)
Part 9/11 (Part 160 Overall)
Part 10/11 (Part 161 Overall)
Part 11/11 (Part 162 Overall)
Part 12/11 (Part 163 Overall)


Army of Darkness TC By Stefan Maes, et al.
Part 1/2 (Part 164 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 165 Overall)


Osiris by Marshal Bostwick and Glenn Payne
Part 1/2 (Part 166 Overall)
Part 2/2 (Part 167 Overall)


WolfenDoom: The First Encounter by Laz Rojas
Part 1/1 (Part 168 Overall)

Temin_Dump fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Mar 12, 2021

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

DOOM NOVELS
Yeah, we're actually reading these too.

Knee Deep in the Dead

Chapters 1-4
Chapters 5-13

:siren: THREAD CONTEST NONSENSE :siren:

NOTE TO SELF: UPDATE THIS!


Temin_Dump posted:

So, a few people have already chimed in with their guess to the final video count (And I'm happy to let them change their answers since I haven't posted this yet), but yeah, we're playing The Price is Right Rules here; the closest to the actual number without going over.

Anyone is free to guess both the final death tally, the final video count, and the death count for each "section" of the LP. I'll update one of the OP posts with this information.

What I'm looking for now is the death count for all of the 1994 wads. The deadline for this will be Friday, August 12 by 11:59 P.M. PST (Or you know, before I go to sleep that night).
This contest will be a thing that runs throughout the life of the thread. People will gain points for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place.

The final death count, and final video count deadlines will be Saturday, December 31st, by 11:59 P.M. PST Just throw a number out there. I don't even know what the final count could possibly be, and we're not even close to the end. I will allow you to change each of these guesses once, but just once.

So, that's 3 contests (That I have planned anyway) for the thread. I plan to have some form of prize, but that is far off and TBD. The final numbers are out of everyone's control, so this ought to be interesting.

B-Roll Footage:
Wolfenstein 3D Demo Loop

Supplemental Videos:
Id Software's Super Mario Bros 3 Demo
Wolfenstein 3D E4M10 100% (Why would you do this?)
Wolfenstein 3D Alpha Version (Thanks to Sharp_angus for pointing out that this exists.)
A Visit to Id Software 1993


Cool Stuff By Other People In The Thread:

Fish Noise posted:

This drat image has been stuck in my mind all day and I have taken measures to get it out.

KennyMan666 posted:

You gave me an idea, and one thing led to another. Kind of counts as LP fanart as it bridges the gap between the Nocturnal missions and the first three episodes, and it wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started calling the officers milkmen.


Unperson_47 posted:

This thread has made me go back and check out DoomRL again. I wish that was updated more frequently. But on the subject of abusing strafing control oversights:



Morholt posted:



i made you a fanart

Redysseus posted:

I'm not sorry. Thanks to Thyrork for the spotlight banner idea.



As per usual, here's the originals. http://imgur.com/gallery/DaQKk

Fish Noise posted:








I'm afraid I must point out a critical flaw in an otherwise excellent concept.

hey that's not Doomguy

Jobbo_Fett posted:



That sour lemon smell... I knew what it was about instantly...


Fish Noise posted:

I used to think that The Doom Comic was the most bizarre and inane of Doom tie-in media, but no, all this time, we've had Flynn Taggart's train of thought rapidly oscillating between oo-rah and inexplicable lemon rage.



Jobbo_Fett posted:

This explains everything...



Fish Noise posted:

It is very unfortunate that the co-op stream recording was lost. Therefore, I have attempted to re-create one of the highlights of that stream for anyone who missed it or wants to experience it again.


Certain embellishments may or may not have been added to the events depicted

Jobbo_Fett posted:


Also, re:Doomguy being a contractor, I think you guys were a little off the mark...



Doomguy Pest Control is on call 24/7 to rid your planet of nasty pests. Don't miss out on limited time offers and seasonal rebates on Aliens, Demons, Spirits (evil or otherwise), and more!



PSWII60 posted:

Merry Christmas Doom thread.




Morholt posted:



Detail from A Safer Moat by the Adolf Hitler School of Design

Temin_Dump fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jun 29, 2017

Redysseus
Dec 13, 2011

Designing existence is hard.
Ah yeah, about that giant image thing. I slapped together an album with some of the original versions, as well as larger resolutions. The Poster versions are the big ones, the Post versions are the same as the thread image. Although I don't see actual poster prints of these things ever actually coming into existence, do with them what you will. http://imgur.com/a/gOmnx/all

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment
Godspeed, you mad motherfucker, you. :stwoon:

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
My LP doesn't get a sick OP shoutout? Boo, sir!

Looking forward to this tho, Doom owns.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Lady Naga posted:

My LP doesn't get a sick OP shoutout? Boo, sir!

So sorry! i didn't realize there were even more out there! I'll remedy this ASAP.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment
I'm disappointed that you didn't use the proper tag for a doom franchise play through. :colbert:

That looks like a pretty good 20 years to me, when your low point is either hexen, doom 3, or maybe rage.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Klaus88 posted:

I'm disappointed that you didn't use the proper tag for a doom franchise play through. :colbert:

That looks like a pretty good 20 years to me, when your low point is either hexen, doom 3, or maybe rage.

Sorry, man. I'm a stupid newbie. And honestly, I think the lowest point for this series is gonna be Wolf 3D, but I guess we'll see

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Temin_Dump posted:

Sorry, man. I'm a stupid newbie. And honestly, I think the lowest point for this series is gonna be Wolf 3D, but I guess we'll see

Wolfenstein 3D is great though. It gets pretty samey as you go through it (especially if you include SoD) but it's a fun and challenging game.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Tiggum posted:

Wolfenstein 3D is great though. It gets pretty samey as you go through it (especially if you include SoD) but it's a fun and challenging game.

That's my main problem with the game though! I certainly don't hate it, but it does get to be hard to come up with new material for it.



Also, on an unrelated note, is there a way to change the tag for my thread? I feel kinda dumb for that now.

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment
PM or otherwise contact a mod.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
:( No Brutal DOOM on the list

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Gridlocked posted:

:( No Brutal DOOM on the list

:staredog:

Hopefully all us nerds can co-exist in peace without a great big slap fight over what constitutes "doom" RIGHT GUYS/GALS?

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Gridlocked posted:

:( No Brutal DOOM on the list

Don't worry, It'll be there eventually. It didn't come out until around 2011, after all.

Klaus88 posted:

:staredog:

Hopefully all us nerds can co-exist in peace without a great big slap fight over what constitutes "doom" RIGHT GUYS/GALS?

Oh god, please don't let this happen.

Temin_Dump fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Apr 20, 2016

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Klaus88 posted:

:staredog:

Hopefully all us nerds can co-exist in peace without a great big slap fight over what constitutes "doom" RIGHT GUYS/GALS?

I am prepared to nerdy slap fight anyone who says Brutal Doom isn't a fully fledged DOOM game. It is that good.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.

Klaus88 posted:

That looks like a pretty good 20 years to me, when your low point is either hexen, doom 3, or maybe rage.

Really? You'd rate Chex Quest over all of those? I mean, I had fun with it back in the day, and I'm looking forward to seeing it covered, but...

Also, if we're talking about what constitutes a 'Doom game', does DoomRL count?

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

FredMSloniker posted:

Also, if we're talking about what constitutes a 'Doom game', does DoomRL count?

It certainly does. It's on the secret master list that nobody but me and the gang get to see until it's all out there. Thanks for bringing it up though. I'm totally open to any suggestions for Doom fan games as well.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Temin_Dump posted:

It certainly does. It's on the secret master list that nobody but me and the gang get to see until it's all out there. Thanks for bringing it up though. I'm totally open to any suggestions for Doom fan games as well.

Any number of DOOM/DOOM 2 re-textures in one compilation video mostly because they don't change anything except making the game look different.

Ones I can remember are: Star Wars, Simpsons, 70's Batman, Ghostbusters and James Bond.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




FredMSloniker posted:

Really? You'd rate Chex Quest over all of those? I mean, I had fun with it back in the day, and I'm looking forward to seeing it covered, but...

Also, if we're talking about what constitutes a 'Doom game', does DoomRL count?

I dunno, all you had to do to get Chex Quest was buy a $5 box of cereal, that's a pretty low cost for entry in comparison to some of the other things on there.

Honestly I am most surprised that Quake Wars is on there, I thought that never got past the "hey we're doing the beta for this so people can play it" stage (although I did enjoy that)

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Temin_Dump posted:

It's on the secret master list that nobody but me and the gang get to see until it's all out there.
Are you going to show off Catacomb 3-D at all?

Oh, and you mentioned in the video about enemies sometimes taking different amounts of damage in Wolf3D, and I think it's based on whether they're aware of you or not (and possibly other factors). But if you shoot a regular dude who hasn't reacted to your presence yet, you'll kill him in one hit. The same seems to apply to the player on Death Incarnate difficulty, where a guy shooting you from behind can kill you in one hit.

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

All doom's are good dooms

I've been thinking of trying to make a Doom 3 lp of my own because I actually loved it completely, but you can do it for me

Choronzons son
Mar 1, 2011
To me it sounds like "Frans" (Franz?) is saying "Platz da!", which translates to "make place"/"move over".
Which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Maybe he really has to go?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
gently caress yeah, Doom 2 is still the best platformer of all time. This is one huge nostalgia trip for me, I think I actually played every single of these games growing up. Particularly looking forward to see someone being actually competent at Strife.
e: Welp, apart from Rage. Not sure if I missed out on anything there.
e2: Speaking of mod suggestions, it's a bit early for that but if you don't do Alien Vendetta, there shall be cries and gnashing of teeth.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Apr 20, 2016

Redysseus
Dec 13, 2011

Designing existence is hard.
There will be crying and gnashing of teeth regardless because Alien Vendetta gave me PTSD. :stare:

It is distinctly one of the first Doom wads/mods I remember playing, and I was much happier off not remembering it. (Okay it's not that bad I was just dumb and 12 probably)

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Tiggum posted:

Are you going to show off Catacomb 3-D at all?

I don't know. Anything's possible! yes

anilEhilated posted:

gently caress yeah, Doom 2 is still the best platformer of all time. This is one huge nostalgia trip for me, I think I actually played every single of these games growing up. Particularly looking forward to see someone being actually competent at Strife.
e: Welp, apart from Rage. Not sure if I missed out on anything there.
e2: Speaking of mod suggestions, it's a bit early for that but if you don't do Alien Vendetta, there shall be cries and gnashing of teeth.

We're trying to do things in a mostly chronological order, but don't worry. There will be Alien Vendetta.

Spudd posted:

All doom's are good dooms

I've been thinking of trying to make a Doom 3 lp of my own because I actually loved it completely, but you can do it for me

Yeah man, I loved Doom 3 too! :hfive: Looking forward to that one.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Is Super 3D Noah's Ark doom?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Temin_Dump posted:

We're trying to do things in a mostly chronological order, but don't worry. There will be Alien Vendetta.
Awesome.

Redysseus posted:

There will be crying and gnashing of teeth regardless because Alien Vendetta gave me PTSD. :stare:

It is distinctly one of the first Doom wads/mods I remember playing, and I was much happier off not remembering it. (Okay it's not that bad I was just dumb and 12 probably)
Really? I mean yeah, it's hard, but it's got clever levels and the fights are thought out and varied. If you want real pain try something like Hell Revealed 2, that'll spam you to death.

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
Wolf3D was my first FPS when I found it on my Dads computer way back in ~'94 at the tender age of 8. He only had the Shareware episode though, so I didn't get to kill Hitler until a year later when I discovered that one of my friends not only had a copy too, but his Dad had shelled out the money for all the episodes; and thus did I become a software pirate at 9.

I don't remember exactly when we got Doom, but I know it was after the Doom 2 release (which I really wanted, back then you could buy a double-wide box that had the full versions of Doom I and II, but Mom really didn't like that we even had the Shareware version, so that was that). Our shareware copy came as a surprise in the bottom of the box for a Joystick my dad and I bought to enhance our Flight-Sim sessions (Knights of the Sky and Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe), which we had previously been playing using keyboard controls (oh early 90's gaming, there are many things about you I do not miss). Doom was an upgrade over Wolf3D in every way, and I played the hell out of it. This was pre-internet for me (when didn't get internet access until I was in Junior High), so everything I found in the game, every level I beat, secret I found, was accomplished through trial and error.

One of my favorite gaming memories was testing out a theory that my Dad and I had, that there was more to the last level to be found after you enter the portal, since the room it drops you in is full of guys who kill you. We knew that the room would disable God Mode, but putting the code in would restore you to full health. So while my dad did his best to shoot all of the demons, I was on code duty, putting in IDDQD over and over again until all the enemies were dead... At which point we discovered that the room has a damage floor and there was nothing else to do except let yourself die. Oh well.

PSWII60
Jan 7, 2007

All the best octopodes shoot fire and ice.
Wolf 3D was my first FPS too, and one of my first games with Operation Neptune and Word Rescue. I can't remember if I ever finished Wolf 3D or not as a kid. I don't think I did :(. Doom? I still play Doom, Doom 2 more so, and Hexen is still one of favorite FPS's.

Jesus that list :stonk:


EDIT: I thought there were dudes in white behind that locked door on floor 10? What am I remembering?

PSWII60 fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Apr 21, 2016

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Ooh, one thing I forgot to mention: really glad you subscribe to the Only True Doom Philosophy Of Ultra Violence Being The Canon Difficulty.

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

RickVoid posted:

Wolf3D was my first FPS when I found it on my Dads computer way back in ~'94 at the tender age of 8. He only had the Shareware episode though, so I didn't get to kill Hitler until a year later when I discovered that one of my friends not only had a copy too, but his Dad had shelled out the money for all the episodes; and thus did I become a software pirate at 9.

I don't remember exactly when we got Doom, but I know it was after the Doom 2 release (which I really wanted, back then you could buy a double-wide box that had the full versions of Doom I and II, but Mom really didn't like that we even had the Shareware version, so that was that). Our shareware copy came as a surprise in the bottom of the box for a Joystick my dad and I bought to enhance our Flight-Sim sessions (Knights of the Sky and Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe), which we had previously been playing using keyboard controls (oh early 90's gaming, there are many things about you I do not miss). Doom was an upgrade over Wolf3D in every way, and I played the hell out of it. This was pre-internet for me (when didn't get internet access until I was in Junior High), so everything I found in the game, every level I beat, secret I found, was accomplished through trial and error.

One of my favorite gaming memories was testing out a theory that my Dad and I had, that there was more to the last level to be found after you enter the portal, since the room it drops you in is full of guys who kill you. We knew that the room would disable God Mode, but putting the code in would restore you to full health. So while my dad did his best to shoot all of the demons, I was on code duty, putting in IDDQD over and over again until all the enemies were dead... At which point we discovered that the room has a damage floor and there was nothing else to do except let yourself die. Oh well.

This is bizarrely similar to my childhood experiences with Doom. Minus Wolf 3D though. Weird.


PSWII60 posted:

I thought there were dudes in white behind that locked door on floor 10? What am I remembering?

I'm like 90% sure those guys don't appear until episode 3. It is a weird thing I noticed with old games, where it's really easy to misremember what things are in the game and not. I stopped playing Doom II for a couple years when I was a kid, and when I came back to it, I swear the pain elementals were a completely new thing that I had never seen before.


anilEhilated posted:

Ooh, one thing I forgot to mention: really glad you subscribe to the Only True Doom Philosophy Of Ultra Violence Being The Canon Difficulty.
Yeah, man! :hfive:

Temin_Dump fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Apr 21, 2016

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Hey, everyone. Part 2 is up here!

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Temin_Dump posted:

Hey, everyone. Part 2 is up here!

So what was supposed to be at the end of that maze?

Temin_Dump
Mar 14, 2016

Tiggum posted:

So what was supposed to be at the end of that maze?

That's something we're gonna cover at a later date. Sorry to leave you hanging.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Temin_Dump posted:

Hey, everyone. Part 2 is up here!
I can't help but think of some very specific music when I see that Mutant firing animation.

Morholt
Mar 18, 2006

Contrary to popular belief, tic-tac-toe isn't purely a game of chance.
Just posting to say that the fast forwarding is good.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




yeah I don't mind fast forwarding Wolf3D, there is nothing spectacular to the level design and you're still playing the soundtrack so it's all good.

Fish Noise
Jul 25, 2012

IT'S ME, BURROWS!

IT WAS ME ALL ALONG, BURROWS!

Fish Noise posted:

I can't help but think of some very specific music when I see that Mutant firing animation.
This drat image has been stuck in my mind all day and I have taken measures to get it out.

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anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Morholt posted:

Just posting to say that the fast forwarding is good.
It's really the only way to LP Wolf3D without either the LPer or the audience going insane.

I just realized what was bothering me: they had a totally awesome sound for the chaingun in Wolf3D, why the hell did they change it to the wussy one we get in Doom?

e: He says "Mein Gott in Himmel!" - my god in heaven!
A rather interesting exclamation given the context.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Apr 27, 2016

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