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Temin_Dump posted:
Rage is a good man-shooter.  Its just that someone decided to bolt on a  driving game to it.
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Fish Noise posted:In the classic Wolfensteins, is there anything that beats the Mutant Death Dance as the literal worst thing? Absolutely not. Klaus88 posted:Rage is a good man-shooter. I wasn't saying that Rage was a bad game or anything. Although I do agree, the driving parts are completely asinine.
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So, the final level of Spear terrified me as a kid. Not sure when I exactly played it, as I played it after Doom was out, but I remember the final boss with its sudden change of environment and the spooky ghosts really bothering me. Consequently, I never beat it! 
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Thyrork posted:So, the final level of Spear terrified me as a kid. Not sure when I exactly played it, as I played it after Doom was out, but I remember the final boss with its sudden change of environment and the spooky ghosts really bothering me. Consequently, I never beat it! Having never played SoD, only the shareware Wolf3D, that was about the only part I'd call actually interesting in the entire playthrough.
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Temin_Dump posted:Absolutely not. I'm gonna have LOTS to say about Rage when we get there. (btw hit me up if you are doing Wasteland Legends and want a bro-operator)
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Skippy Granola posted:I'm gonna have LOTS to say about Rage when we get there. Certainly. I was actually just checking out your rage LP. Good stuff! I'll be sure to get in touch when we get to that point
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It's Catacomb 3D! (Also Hovertank, but whatever) Thyrork posted:So, the final level of Spear terrified me as a kid. Not sure when I exactly played it, as I played it after Doom was out, but I remember the final boss with its sudden change of environment and the spooky ghosts really bothering me. Consequently, I never beat it!
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Oh yeah, Doom hosed me up around the same time that SoD did. I remember that childish dread being nearly overwhelming and reminding myself that stopping it all is just a ESC button away.  I also remember being super pumped at fighting not one but two "bosses" at the same time at the end of the first episode. (soft spoilering that since we're not there yet  )That I remember this so vividly 24ish years later says something.
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is Catacomb 3D using Commander Keen music? It sounds really familiar
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Thyrork posted:Oh yeah, Doom hosed me up around the same time that SoD did. I remember that childish dread being nearly overwhelming and reminding myself that stopping it all is just a ESC button away. Haha, yeah Doom leaves one heck of an impression on children it seems. It indirectly taught me that everybody dies, but that's a story for Doom 2. Aces High posted:is Catacomb 3D using Commander Keen music? It sounds really familiar It sure is! They couldn't even be bothered. Temin_Dump fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Huh, so the game I played as a kid was the sequel to Catacomb 3D: Catacomb 3D Abyss. It had a nice sense of progression as there was a different tile set and monsters for each level.
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I'm trying to imagine what modern sequels/remakes of these two would be like and for Hovertank all I got is "first person Brigador"
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how much did games like this cost again? I think I recall you would get your shareware episode and then it would cost $15 and mailing fee for the rest of the game? Did you have to do that for poo poo like Hovertank and Catacomb too? That just seems like a waste of money
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Aces High posted:how much did games like this cost again? I think I recall you would get your shareware episode and then it would cost $15 and mailing fee for the rest of the game? Did you have to do that for poo poo like Hovertank and Catacomb too? That just seems like a waste of money That did seem to be the case with the Commander Keen games. Though for the 2 Softdisk games we just did, I'm pretty sure it worked through some kind of magazine subscription thing. If I remember correctly, Softdisk had a monthly software catalog, and the bimonthly gamer's edge catalog, and Hovertank and Catacomb were part of that. No idea how much the subscription cost though.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Huh, so the game I played as a kid was the sequel to Catacomb 3D: Catacomb 3D Abyss. It had a nice sense of progression as there was a different tile set and monsters for each level. Both sequels are better design-wise, with way prettier areas and more interesting monsters, but there's literally no music instead of a repetitive track so that's... maybe good?
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Aces High posted:how much did games like this cost again? I think I recall you would get your shareware episode and then it would cost $15 and mailing fee for the rest of the game? Did you have to do that for poo poo like Hovertank and Catacomb too? That just seems like a waste of money I have no idea about the cost but I'm fairly certain buying the full game got you a catalog with everything they had for sale as well. I'm mostly curious about people who bought the full game abroad, did they have to import the full version back in the day? By comparison the shareware would spread far and wide pretty much anywhere an IT guy might be asked to travel for work.
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Aces High posted:is Catacomb 3D using Commander Keen music? It sounds really familiar Even better, that menu interface is ripped from the later Keen games as well. It's reskinned, but it's the exact same menu. Even the little pong thing is there. Edit: I could be wrong but I think some of the wall textures are graphics lifted from Keen as well. In the level with the fake portals there's a block with a grey slimy looking wall that I'd swear is straight out of the tar island level in Keen 4. General Maximus fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Jun 3, 2016 |
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Captain Rufus posted:Wouldn't mind seeing Shadowcaster in there. Well, I've got good news and bad news for you. The good news is that we covered Shadowcaster The bad news is that I'm terrible at it.
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Holy poo poo, Catacombs 3D uses literally everything from Keen 4: the music, the sounds, the graphics, the colour scheme. That's really weird. Also if you need someone to talk over Keen with, I've got 31 videos of me doing just that. But please don't do Keen GBC, I haven't erased it from my memory quite yet.
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Coccyx. These Wolf3D-Doom era games have been pretty fascinating to watch.
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Crosspeice posted:Holy poo poo, Catacombs 3D uses literally everything from Keen 4: the music, the sounds, the graphics, the colour scheme. That's really weird. Haha, wow they phoned it in even more than I thought! Also, sorry, I gotta do Keen GBC. Fish Noise posted:Coccyx. I knew there was an easy one that I was missing! Also yeah, it's interesting to see what people were able to pull off with such a simplistic engine. Temin_Dump fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jun 3, 2016 |
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Shadowcaster felt much more like it was set in real environments rather than just rough schematics of some poorly defined building, compared to Wolf3D. That's just my impression from your short video here. I'd say the reason it isn't better known today is probably because of its bad interface.
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Shadowcaster's inventory system is exactly the same as I.M. Meen's. I wonder if they based it on the Shadowcaster engine?
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Gloomy Rube posted:Shadowcaster's inventory system is exactly the same as I.M. Meen's. I wonder if they based it on the Shadowcaster engine? Oh wow, I just looked this up, and it's uncanny how similar the interfaces are.
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Are you gonna do that zombie island game that's half shooter, half first person adventure game and which I can't remember the name of right now?
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Klaus88 posted:Are you gonna do that zombie island game that's half shooter, half first person adventure game and which I can't remember the name of right now? I'm happy to say that I won't be playing Isle of the Dead for this thread. Unless there's like a huge demand for it of course.
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While checking to see what engine Meen uses, I discovered that apparently Shadowcaster had an automap? Did I miss you using it in the LP or did you not know there was one either?
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Gloomy Rube posted:While checking to see what engine Meen uses, I discovered that apparently Shadowcaster had an automap? Did I miss you using it in the LP or did you not know there was one either? I knew about the automap, and used it for like a second around the 3 minute mark. I just didn't find it terribly useful due to the way it maps things out.
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Holy drat, this looks like a huge undertaking. I friggin' love Doom and modding Doom though. I'll throw a couple at ya'll if interested when you get to that point. Goonspeed 
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it's crazy that you are doing all the licensed stuff in addition to the games made directly by ID. See you stumble around shadow caster was driving me nuts. I remember the manual had a bunch of useful tips like Kurt being able to swim but the cat beast getting hurt by water, because it's a cat you see. good luck with the rest of the LP you'll need it. burnaboy fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Well dammit. I just stumbled on this thread, and I had been planning on doing my own Doom megathread once I had a little more confidence that I could put out videos that weren't complete poo poo. I'll probably still end up doing it, since I plan on doing strictly Doom games and modding all of them. (Except DO4M of course) Definitely good to see that there is a decent amount of interest in this though.
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Wamdoodle posted:Holy drat, this looks like a huge undertaking. I friggin' love Doom and modding Doom though. I'll throw a couple at ya'll if interested when you get to that point. Goonspeed burnaboy posted:it's crazy that you are doing all the licensed stuff in addition to the games made directly by ID. LogicalFallacy posted:Well dammit. I just stumbled on this thread, and I had been planning on doing my own Doom megathread once I had a little more confidence that I could put out videos that weren't complete poo poo. I'll probably still end up doing it, since I plan on doing strictly Doom games and modding all of them. (Except DO4M of course) Definitely good to see that there is a decent amount of interest in this though.
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Two Doom threads? The answer is obvious. DEATHMATCH
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S.D. posted:Two Doom threads? The answer is obvious.  true Doom experience)
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LogicalFallacy posted:No I will not be advocating it as the Good. We're celebrating Doom here and that means celebrating it at its best.
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Speaking of Doom mods, I haven't mentioned yet, but we're gonna be playing vanilla Doom until the source ports come into existence. I hadn't even thought much of it until it was brought up. Hopefully it won't be a problem for people.
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Temin_Dump posted:Speaking of Doom mods, I haven't mentioned yet, but we're gonna be playing vanilla Doom until the source ports come into existence. I hadn't even thought much of it until it was brought up. Hopefully it won't be a problem for people. As in version 1.666 for DOS, emulated? (I don't actually remember if there were any later patch-versions of the original.)
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nielsm posted:As in version 1.666 for DOS, emulated? (I don't actually remember if there were any later patch-versions of the original.) As in version 1.1 in DosBox. Of course I'll be upgrading my version as new wads require them. Around 1997, we'll start seeing some source ports.
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Aces High posted:
A couple pages back, but there's an entire blog dedicated to things like this. http://itrunsdoom.tumblr.com/
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hoooooly poo poo that is cool