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Her manager has confirmed that Chyna has been found dead in her home. Until the site properly loads, this is all that I can put for now. Would anyone be willing to elaborate? https://twitter.com/WrestlingSheet/status/723005589249503232 http://prowrestlingsheet.com/chyna-found-dead-at-home-dies/
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AMReese posted:Her manager has confirmed that Chyna has been found dead in her home. Until the site properly loads, this is all that I can put for now. Would anyone be willing to elaborate? It sounds like it was death from drug use, whether intentional or not we don't know yet.
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I'll keep trying to refresh, but according to the Twitter comments, PWS always seems to have trouble with traffic when it comes to breaking news stories like this.
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Well drat. That was not the next passing I was expecting to hear about.
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Chyna basically ruled and this sucks.
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Apr 21, 2016 05:45
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This sucks and sucks bad. I can't decide if her death should be talked about in the context of the business or if I feel like her demons were beyond that and that I think it'd be loving gross to use a woman's death for an agenda.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:This sucks and sucks bad. If wrestlers dying young was a rare occurrence it would be gross. Unfortunately that isn't the case.
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http://uproxx.com/prowrestling/joanie-laurer-chyna-passes-away/ Yep likely drugs
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SamuraiFoochs posted:This sucks and sucks bad. While there were likely pre-existing issues, getting double-crossed both personally and professionally and having it be borne out of a pro wrestling angle probably isn't good for your psychological wellbeing.
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Apr 21, 2016 05:50
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SamuraiFoochs posted:This sucks and sucks bad. I think you can do both and be respectful. There are legitimate reasons she felt and acted the way she did. It is a show business story in general. You don't need to be all Vince/HHH deriding and fist shaking to comment on the pitfalls of rapid fame and just as rapid flame-out.
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Is this her final interview? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmIjyMiR2Ys
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Apr 21, 2016 05:52
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I think it'd be loving gross to use a woman's death for an agenda. Don't treat her like a woman Don't treat her like a man
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Apr 21, 2016 05:52
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Well drat that really sucks.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7_URKdAwfo Like this is basically insane and obviously two of the three people involved are now gone, but good lord does this rule. She bent steel bars and hosed up Owen Hart's day. Chyna ruled.
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Seams posted:If wrestlers dying young was a rare occurrence it would be gross. Unfortunately that isn't the case. My point is more that Chyna was in the business for what, like...5-6 years? And only really broke down hard afterwards? She hasn't shown up in wrestling at all since like '09 in TNA. Not that wrestling was good to her but it's more kinda like...I wonder if it just put fuel to the fire, and in that case do you blame the fuel or the fire? It's a really loving sticky situation, and unless it's an Eddie or a Benoit type deal I hesitate to bring it up in the same breath, if that makes sense. It's like when Nancy Grace was trotting out names of dead wrestlers in the wake of Benoit when some of them were car crash victims or whatever the gently caress. Either way a woman is dead at the age of 45 and that is really really sad.
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chyna's story is one of the saddest, drat. Wish she got the help she needed but the deck seemed pretty stacked against her for her entire life.SamuraiFoochs posted:This sucks and sucks bad. oatgan fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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about as clear a case of being chewed-up-and-spat-out by the industry as you can get, unfortuntately
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Ah, poo poo, ease off a bit would you, 2016? 
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It's weird because I just recently started getting into the Attitude Era Podcast and it has reminded me of how much Chyna owned back in the day. This blows.
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oatgan posted:chyna's story is one of the saddest, drat. Wish she got the help she needed but the deck seemed pretty stacked against her for her entire life. It's more that she publicly poo poo on him a bunch and he has really thin skin, combined with WWE running from anyone who might relapse on their watch. But it's the making GBS threads on HHH and the company way more.
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Ty1990 posted:It's weird because I just recently started getting into the Attitude Era Podcast and it has reminded me of how much Chyna owned back in the day. This blows. She was def. a fav and a woman wrestler I could actually look up to and not feel embarrassed to see them rolling around in pudding every week
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Man, and I thought 2015 was a bad year, 2016 is just non-stop wreckage.
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MassRafTer posted:It's more that she publicly poo poo on him a bunch and he has really thin skin, combined with WWE running from anyone who might relapse on their watch. But it's the making GBS threads on HHH and the company way more. see i thought that came afterwards
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MassRafTer posted:It's more that she publicly poo poo on him a bunch and he has really thin skin, combined with WWE running from anyone who might relapse on their watch. But it's the making GBS threads on HHH and the company way more. Didn't she hint at child porn on Twitter or something similar? I remember her being way out of control years ago to the point Howard Stern had to stop talking to her on the air because it made him feel like a lovely person.
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I came to wrestling long after Chyna was gone, but I think without her the bedrock for Trish and Lita would have never been lain after Vince gave up on Women's Wrestling again in 95. Without those two there would have been no place for Molly Holly, no place for Gail Kim, no place for Beth Pheonix, no place for any of the great women's wrestlers who did everything they could to keep the dream alive against all odds, against constantly being sidelined in favor of worthless bikini models, against constant active sabotage of their booking, their characters and their very credibility as athletes by lovely human beings. They endured it all, and made it to 2016, where Becky, Sasha and Charlotte had the best match on the card at Wrestlemania, the most prestigious Women's title in North American history is still flying high in NXT, and the WWE Universe has become an environment where the fans will not give the assholes in back even one loving inch on their precious Eva Marie because she can't wrestle and being hot isn't enough to sleepwalk to adoration anymore. Chyna was the focal point, the origin of it all. Before her women's wrestling in America was dead and buried. She made women cool to wrestling fans when a period where based on any kind of study of who those fans were that ought to have been impossible. She got to play in the boy's sandbox and she kicked down castles as hard as some of the best who've ever laced up a pair of boots. The likes of Chris Jericho, Triple H and Eddie Guerrero were her peers, and in many ways she surpassed them, finding fame outside of wrestling and main stream pop culture relevance that was enjoyed only by the elite among elites, like Stone Cold and Rock. She didn't have a fraction of any of their talent for ringwork OR promos, but she had something special and she knew how to make it work for her, and at the end of the day, that's all a wrestler really is, and in that she was one of the best of all time. She didn't deserve what happened to her, to be driven out of WWF for things she had no control over, for which she was the victim, and to have everything she'd meant to them tossed in the trash. Regardless of how far she fell over the years, I'll think of her fondly and regret that she couldn't correct her life and find happiness. I may not have been a Chyna fan, but if Chyna had never been there something I love dearly probably would have never been born. If nothing else, that deserves recognition.
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I'm watching 1998 WWF, around the time of Fully Loaded, and there are three women on the roster. Chyna, Jacqueline and Sable. Women's wrestling in the WWE has come a long way since then. ^^ yeah
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natetimm posted:Didn't she hint at child porn on Twitter or something similar? I remember her being way out of control years ago to the point Howard Stern had to stop talking to her on the air because it made him feel like a lovely person. Something akin to that yes, and it was relatively recently. I can definitely agree this is a really goddamn tragic story, whatever other dimensions of it you want to surround it with.
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oatgan posted:chyna's story is one of the saddest, drat. Wish she got the help she needed but the deck seemed pretty stacked against her for her entire life. I agree, but let's be honest: the grossest thing will be when she gets in the Hall and HHH is the one inducting her
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Alain Post posted:about as clear a case of being chewed-up-and-spat-out by the industry as you can get, unfortuntately They can dress it up with wellness programs and concussion protocols and call it "sports entertainment", but pro wrestling will always be a business that will utterly destroy a lot of the people who spend more than a couple of years in it. RIP.
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skaboomizzy posted:They can dress it up with wellness programs and concussion protocols and call it "sports entertainment", but pro wrestling will always be a business that will utterly destroy a lot of the people who spend more than a couple of years in it. I would play devil's advocate on this but now is really, really not the time, so yeah. RIP Chyna.
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oatgan posted:see i thought that came afterwards The timeline is really confusing before she was forced out. After that it's really one sided in a sad way. She'd lash out about him, the company had her blacklisted so he'd rarely say anything back... then years later she hasn't made a peep about him and he decides to come up with the porn cover story for why she's blacklisted. Good show. Chyna is such a weird figure in WWE. She was half this really strong character, but the portrayal had all of these undertones of transphobia that made it really uncomfortable. I guess those are more forgotten now because when the company was on fire those had subsided. Early on in her run there was this element of LOL SHE LOOKS LIKE A MAN that made it pretty loving uncomfortable.
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She was IC Champ. She may not have been a great promo or whatever but it was enjoyable seeing her go over folks like Jeff Jarrett and Chris Jericho.
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Chyna would deserve to go into a WWE Hall of Fame except for the fact that putting her into such a hall would be absurdly disrespectful. It's a weird business.
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If it wasn't for Chyna, WWE wouldn't have had hot chicks..... RIP Queen of the Ring
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Chris James 2 posted:I agree, but let's be honest: the grossest thing will be when she gets in the Hall and HHH is the one inducting her That would be the second grossest thing. The grossest thing would be Steph doing it and claiming she was the inspiration for her divas revolution.
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I wasn't watching when she was active, but I saw her at a nerd convention last year and if she wasn't pointed out to me she would've just been another normal looking person. She was walking away from the photo area and laughing and joking around with someone. drat shame.
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If they wanted to be classy about it they could have someone like Jericho induct her. Even Waltman would be better than HHH or his wife.
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MassRafTer posted:Chyna is such a weird figure in WWE. She was half this really strong character, but the portrayal had all of these undertones of transphobia that made it really uncomfortable. I guess those are more forgotten now because when the company was on fire those had subsided. Early on in her run there was this element of LOL SHE LOOKS LIKE A MAN that made it pretty loving uncomfortable. There's honestly not as much of that stuff going on as I thought there would be. Like, JR will call her an 'Amazon' and they'll talk about how physically impressive she is etc but not much more than that.
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natetimm posted:If they wanted to be classy about it they could have someone like Jericho induct her. Even Waltman would be better than HHH or his wife. xpac used to abuse her iirc
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