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Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!
This is new Gay thread since the last one was no longer relevant. And mostly centered around hating Jivjov. This thread will focus on the entirety of the LGBT community and their rights around the globe. And as far as I can tell not much has changed in the past month anywhere but America, with a slew of new Republican led so-called Bathroom Bills aimed at the Trans community. So I suppose we should start with that.

e: The most recent things would I guess be AFA's Target boycott declaration, and Drumpf's conservative faux pas in saying that people should use whichever toilet they feel comfortable in.
e2: Truth be told things have sort of reached a bit of a plateau regarding global LGBT rights in 2016. Outside of Estonia and a single Mexican state (Jalisca) marriage rights haven't really progressed any farther.

Schizotek fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Apr 23, 2016

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Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
I'll just leave this here:
https://community.pflag.org/document.doc?id=139

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011
Still don't have gender identity in the Human Rights Act in New Zealand. A Crown Law opinion that said it was covered under sex has been around for a while and resulted in it not be explicitly included, despite not being tested in the courts. That changed in the last few days.

http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/31/article_18200.php

quote:

The implication appears to be that statutory authority has been granted to the Crown Law Office opinion in this context, and that transgendered people are protected from employment discrimination under the Employment Relations Act and Human Rights Act, while transitioning at work. Congratulations, Dakota, you are a pioneer for transgender rights in this country and many transpeople will be grateful for your courage and determination in this context. Moreover, if this applies to employment discrimination, it may also apply to accomodation and service provider discrimination as well.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
One of my friends came out to Obama at a townhall event in London. :3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX8H2IvK1BI

german porn enthusiast
Dec 29, 2015

by exmarx

TinTower posted:

One of my friends came out to Obama at a townhall event in London. :3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX8H2IvK1BI

This is cool.


Odds that the bathroom shenanigans have any sort of impact outside the US, one way or the other?

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
I CAN'T HELP BUT DERAIL THREADS WITH MY VERY PRESENCE

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TinTower posted:

One of my friends came out to Obama at a townhall event in London. :3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX8H2IvK1BI

Haha, I saw this on sky news and was really interested in it, but had to go to work half way. I was thinking, "ah poo poo, probably won't be able to see the rest of this ever, oh well"

metalloid posted:

This is cool.


Odds that the bathroom shenanigans have any sort of impact outside the US, one way or the other?
I think the bathroom shenanigans is an attack on LGBT by a notorious anti-LGBT group, it gives them power and reputation, and also says to anyone watching that this is something people in charge do and think is right. Not only that, but American politics heavily influence English politics anyway, last thing we want is some local bigots getting inspired.

german porn enthusiast
Dec 29, 2015

by exmarx

Megaspel posted:

I think the bathroom shenanigans is an attack on LGBT by a notorious anti-LGBT group, it gives them power and reputation, and also says to anyone watching that this is something people in charge do and think is right. Not only that, but American politics heavily influence English politics anyway, last thing we want is some local bigots getting inspired.

It's certainly anti-LGBT bigot terribleness. What I mean to ask is how much do bigots around the world pay attention to bigots in america?

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Megaspel posted:

I think the bathroom shenanigans is an attack on LGBT by a notorious anti-LGBT group, it gives them power and reputation, and also says to anyone watching that this is something people in charge do and think is right. Not only that, but American politics heavily influence English politics anyway, last thing we want is some local bigots getting inspired.

I suspect it's just a passing fad in the right wing, the current acceptable targets to hate and stir up poo poo over now that gay rights are no longer acceptable targets in the mainstream.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

metalloid posted:

It's certainly anti-LGBT bigot terribleness. What I mean to ask is how much do bigots around the world pay attention to bigots in america?
Quite a lot in parts of Africa, because they make a special effort to be terrible there.

There appears to be something of a fundamental disparity between the anti-LGBT people in the US (mostly religious based, believe being gay is a bad moral choice) and the anti-LGBT people in Europe (often some flavor of generic far-right shithead, believe being gay is a genetic aberration) that means that they don't usually directly help one another out, but they do sometimes unwittingly end up helping the other side by accident, or vice versa. The best example I can think of being when some scientists claimed to have found a gay gene and some LGBT groups in the US celebrated possibly having some sort of biological basis for anti-discrimination laws, whereas the UK's Daily Mail printed "Abortion hope after 'gay genes' findings" because they are literal Nazis :stonkhat:

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Guavanaut posted:

Whereas the UK's Daily Mail printed "Abortion hope after 'gay genes' findings"

I would have a lot of hope for aborting the parents who would show any interest in that.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Guavanaut posted:

Quite a lot in parts of Africa, because they make a special effort to be terrible there.

There appears to be something of a fundamental disparity between the anti-LGBT people in the US (mostly religious based, believe being gay is a bad moral choice) and the anti-LGBT people in Europe (often some flavor of generic far-right shithead, believe being gay is a genetic aberration) that means that they don't usually directly help one another out, but they do sometimes unwittingly end up helping the other side by accident, or vice versa. The best example I can think of being when some scientists claimed to have found a gay gene and some LGBT groups in the US celebrated possibly having some sort of biological basis for anti-discrimination laws, whereas the UK's Daily Mail printed "Abortion hope after 'gay genes' findings" because they are literal Nazis :stonkhat:

No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail?

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

Artificer posted:

No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail?

Rupert Murdoch owns the daily mail, and they frequently make Fox News look subtle by comparison.

HorseLord
Aug 26, 2014

Artificer posted:

No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail?

The mail is a fascist publication. That isn't hyperbole, the people who write that newspaper love racial purity and Hitler, but they restrain themselves from saying anything that might get them shut down. Most of the time.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Artificer posted:

No way. Was there any sort of outrage about that or is that par for course for the Daily Mail?
There was outrage from LGBT groups, but this was in the early 90s when Section 28 was still in force (basically the same as Russia's gay propaganda law but for schools and local authorities) so they obviously felt their targets were disempowered enough for such an attack. Same as what they do now with refugees ISIS vermin sneaking into Europe :byodood:

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
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HorseLord posted:

The mail is a fascist publication. That isn't hyperbole, the people who write that newspaper love racial purity and Hitler, but they restrain themselves from saying anything that might get them shut down. Most of the time.

Yeah this isn't any exaggeration, and England has the advantage of having really old poo poo so we can see how history repeats itself.


If Hitler was British, the Daily Mail would've supported him until the end. Instead, they only supported him until he declared a war on us.

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
whoops, wrong thread. Have this instead, NC's bathroom bill is already starting to bear fruit; a cisgender woman was violently ejected from the women's bathroom by police:

http://www.cartelpress.com/north-carolina-woman-kicked-womens-bathroom-police-mistaken-transgender/

Sharkie fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Apr 23, 2016

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
that's terrible but it does show how retarded relying on peoples observation skills is for this kind of law

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

Sharkie posted:

whoops, wrong thread. Have this instead, NC's bathroom bill is already starting to bear fruit; a cisgender woman was violently ejected from the women's bathroom by police:

http://www.cartelpress.com/north-carolina-woman-kicked-womens-bathroom-police-mistaken-transgender/

Thankfully this particular incident seems to be fake news originating with worldnewsdailyreport.com.

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Prester Jane posted:

Thankfully this particular incident seems to be fake news originating with worldnewsdailyreport.com.

Sorry about my poor reading comprehension, everyone. I'm glad it's fake but I didn't find it very amusing.:colbert:

Still, things like this do happen: http://www.advocate.com/business/2015/06/17/Detroit-woman-kicked-out-restaurant-bathroom-looking-man-sues

curse of flubber
Mar 12, 2007
I CAN'T HELP BUT DERAIL THREADS WITH MY VERY PRESENCE

I ALSO HAVE A CLOUD OF DEDICATED IDIOTS FOLLOWING ME SHITTING UP EVERY THREAD I POST IN

IGNORE ME AND ANY DINOSAUR THAT FIGHTS WITH ME BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T SHUT UP
Can't help but worry there were bad motives behind making fake articles like that.

A lesbian woman was ejected from a bathroom though, this is what I thought you were referring to:
https://www.facebook.com/RealBlackHair/videos/1041393762599408

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Sharkie posted:

Sorry about my poor reading comprehension, everyone. I'm glad it's fake but I didn't find it very amusing.:colbert:

Still, things like this do happen: http://www.advocate.com/business/2015/06/17/Detroit-woman-kicked-out-restaurant-bathroom-looking-man-sues

Hey I've been to that restaurant. Food isn't bad.

That other thing is Pure Michigan :smithicide:

Taitale
Feb 19, 2011

metalloid posted:

It's certainly anti-LGBT bigot terribleness. What I mean to ask is how much do bigots around the world pay attention to bigots in america?

New Zealand has one group (Family First) get a lot of ideas from and work with "Family" groups in America. They had some American from Focus on the Family write some crap about trans people last year and had it sent to schools.

GhostBoy
Aug 7, 2010

I'm hopeful the bathroom bill nonsense will get repealed, if not through the courts, then through pressure from business. Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT civil rights organization along with Equality NC, a similar org from North Carolina, has managed to get quite a number of big companies on board: http://equalitync.org/latest/news/businesses_against_hb2_updated_4_21/

It's poo poo that things like these have to come down to money pressure, but it seems to be a language that politicians understand. Eventually some of the non-diehard voters may start to consider if the cost in jobs is really worth the effort. As long as that piece of poo poo law gets taken off the books, I don't really care much how it is done. There are of course also lawsuits in the works, but part of the problem is that the bills also restrict what you can sue the state for. Anyway, it's not just Bruce Springsteen anymore and that can only be a good thing.

ThingOne
Jul 30, 2011



Would you like some tofu?


Missouri's Religious Freedom Amendment was struck down by a house committee in a 6-6 vote yesterday with three of the more business-minded Republicans jumping ship. You can already hear the religious wing sharpening their knives.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

GhostBoy posted:

I'm hopeful the bathroom bill nonsense will get repealed, if not through the courts, then through pressure from business. Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT civil rights organization along with Equality NC, a similar org from North Carolina, has managed to get quite a number of big companies on board: http://equalitync.org/latest/news/businesses_against_hb2_updated_4_21/

It's poo poo that things like these have to come down to money pressure, but it seems to be a language that politicians understand. Eventually some of the non-diehard voters may start to consider if the cost in jobs is really worth the effort. As long as that piece of poo poo law gets taken off the books, I don't really care much how it is done. There are of course also lawsuits in the works, but part of the problem is that the bills also restrict what you can sue the state for. Anyway, it's not just Bruce Springsteen anymore and that can only be a good thing.

It'll get repealed, because much like many of the 'morality' laws the Right loves to pass, it has no basis in actual established law and, is in fact, contrary to established laws.

Either it gets repealed or the courts will strike it down, and frankly the politicians that passed it know it will happen. Passing these bills is just a way to appease their voting base, and then they can turn and raise a fuss when it inevitably gets struck down.

ThingOne posted:

Missouri's Religious Freedom Amendment was struck down by a house committee in a 6-6 vote yesterday with three of the more business-minded Republicans jumping ship. You can already hear the religious wing sharpening their knives.

Their knives are getting awfully short. That's why all these bills and vocal hatred, they know they are losing their voting base due to age and decrease in members of those evangelical faiths.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Apr 28, 2016

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

CommieGIR posted:


Either it gets repealed or the courts will strike it down, and frankly the politicians that passed it know it will happen. Passing these bills is just a way to appease their voting base, and then they can turn and raise a fuss when it inevitably gets struck down.


While I agree with the rest of the points you made in your post, I personally disagree with this point. I do not think the people passing these laws are aware that they will simply be struck down, nor do I think that this is a cynical Ploy just to rile the bass up. Well that would have been absolutely true 15 years ago, in our post Tea Party World, I really think that these are genuine true believers who have been elected to positions of power that are pushing these policies.

I really think that the systematic effort by the Tea Party the primary everyone who was dumb enough to admit to having a rational opinion about governance and public has resulted in genuine True Believers seizing the reins of power in certain areas of the country. I don't believe at all that this is about just riling up the base at this point, this is about fighting a holy war against the alien other that is coming to destroy them all. They aren't really fighting to win, nor are they fighting to rile up the base 2 continue getting reelected. They're fighting because it's a righteous cause, and they perceived their only real two choices as being either that a passively going along with outright evil, or going down fighting the good fight.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Colombia joins the club
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-36166888

ThaumPenguin
Oct 9, 2013

Prester Jane posted:

While I agree with the rest of the points you made in your post, I personally disagree with this point. I do not think the people passing these laws are aware that they will simply be struck down, nor do I think that this is a cynical Ploy just to rile the bass up. Well that would have been absolutely true 15 years ago, in our post Tea Party World, I really think that these are genuine true believers who have been elected to positions of power that are pushing these policies.

I really think that the systematic effort by the Tea Party the primary everyone who was dumb enough to admit to having a rational opinion about governance and public has resulted in genuine True Believers seizing the reins of power in certain areas of the country. I don't believe at all that this is about just riling up the base at this point, this is about fighting a holy war against the alien other that is coming to destroy them all. They aren't really fighting to win, nor are they fighting to rile up the base 2 continue getting reelected. They're fighting because it's a righteous cause, and they perceived their only real two choices as being either that a passively going along with outright evil, or going down fighting the good fight.

I was about to ask if you had read Prester Jane's thread about this, but something tells me you already have :v:

GhostBoy
Aug 7, 2010

CommieGIR posted:

It'll get repealed, because much like many of the 'morality' laws the Right loves to pass, it has no basis in actual established law and, is in fact, contrary to established laws.

Either it gets repealed or the courts will strike it down, and frankly the politicians that passed it know it will happen. Passing these bills is just a way to appease their voting base, and then they can turn and raise a fuss when it inevitably gets struck down.

Their knives are getting awfully short. That's why all these bills and vocal hatred, they know they are losing their voting base due to age and decrease in members of those evangelical faiths.
I hope you are right, and this is all a knowing ploy by politicians. Because then they might turn the other way, when the winds change. I don't think that is true, though. I think they are diehard believers in stupid causes, that they think the populace wants, and they are prepared to die on that hill, to the detriment of us all until they get off the hill.

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
I just wanted to repost this quote from Mr. Horrible, because these anti-queer laws are not coming from nowhere; edited for pertinacity.

Mr. Horrible posted:


When it comes to identity politics, I think one of the problems is that we are accepting the terms set forth by moderates and right-wing extremists. As an example, here's how one group of allies responded to Ted Cruz's comments wrt bathroom bills:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ddblwBpvA

I don't mean to single these guys out, they're just the first ones I found with a handy bite-size clip of their coverage. But what are we actually getting here? Some head-shaking, some righteous indignation. Sometimes there's a bit of hand-wringing about how the LGBT community is being attacked so heavily by regressives. But what's missing?




1) Context. Did you know that there's a single law firm that has been pushing these bathroom bills? That many of these bills have language that is almost word-for-word identical to the text put out by this anti-gay organization? I'm trans and even I didn't know about this until ChickenArise posted the following URL to the trans megathread:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/alliance-defending-freedom-lobbies-anti-lgbt-bathroom-bills

So in other words, these are not legislatures independently choosing to pursue this issue. This is a coordinated attack on transgender people, carried out by an organization working from the shadows. An organization headed by a man who wrote a book called The Homosexual Agenda. So let's call them what they are: a deep-pocketed hate group that's interfering in the personal lives of minorities. This is an opportunity to showcase how unelected but moneyed interests work behind the scenes to shape our national discourse. That should never be accepted, and should be called out at every opportunity.



2) A refutation of false claims. Transgender women are the victims of sexual assault, not the perpetrators. In fact I've been unable to find a single case of a transgender woman sexually assaulting anyone, much less in a bathroom. But so far, I've only seen a single news organization highlight this point:

http://abc11.com/politics/transgender-sexual-assault-victim-says-shell-defy-hb2/1296062/

Even then, they gave McCrory a pass when he said this was a "new issue." That is a boldfaced lie. The first transgender American to publicly discuss their transition fought in World War 2, and garnered a fair bit of attention and media coverage in the 1950s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen

This is not a new phenomenon, but once again by failing to provide that context the news and even advocates are inadvertently giving legitimacy to their opponents. This issue is not "some people think you have to use the bathroom that matches your birth certificate because they think it will cut down on sexual assault," it's "a hate group is secretly workshopping its discriminatory legislation around to local and state governments to use as a wedge issue in a cynical attempt to get votes by pretending this is a strange new phenomenon, when in reality this issue is over 50 years old and should have been addressed a long time ago." And you can take it further from there: if we knew transgender people were a thing in the 50's, why didn't we start working on it? Why didn't they teach kids about gender dysphoria, so that we could identify the problem and get treatment before they killed themselves (something over 40% of all trans people attempt)? Why was this reality hidden from children growing up before the 21st century, and why did we as a society do nothing to address this very real issue?


How bathroom discrimination is discussed is part of a larger pattern in our national discourse, which is to keep falling for the Golden Mean fallacy.

[...]

Right now, both sides of the debate are usually a regressive social conservative and a moderate liberal. Neither party is interested in discussing the money angle, because they both want the status quo. This framing of the national discourse as a dialog between the socially left and right wings of social conservatives is, obviously, a false narrative. Which is why when we discuss identity politics issues, we have to keep hammering home how important the role of money is in all of our political issues. Off the top of my head, here are some ways in which money plays a part in bathroom bills:

1) Money in politics is not only about bribery. The organization pushing this legislation has a wide reach because they can buy the time and energy required to get it in everyone's hands. And unlike the other side - the HRC, UCLA, etc. - they're doing it while hiding from the public. Why isn't it mandatory for the origin of this legislation to be disclosed to the public? Well, because moneyed interests from out of state know it's bad PR to be caught with their hand in the cookie jar. And in a country where bribery is legal, it was bound to happen that parties other than industry lobbyists would start sneaking around with pre-written laws for power-hungry pols to crib from.

2) Trans people are already handicapped economically, making it hard to fight back. Trans people have some of the highest rates of unemployment and homelessness of any group in America. Given that there is no protection against discrimination for employment or housing in many parts of the country, that's to be expected. And since many health insurance companies won't pay for any of our approved treatments - we're talking thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars - we're on average poorer than even people with the same take-home pay that we get. Without the support of non-profits, we'd be hard-pressed to defend ourselves from a bunch of rich regressives.

3) The only pushback that has made a real difference so far is from the 1%. If it wasn't for large corporations and rich artists boycotting the state, North Carolina would only have a handful of protesters on their hands. McCrory and company have been blindsided because they assumed they'd be able to push trans folks around with impunity, but they weren't counting on the capital class to take a stand (they usually don't, after all). In a country where wealth is concentrated into the hands of a few, the concerns of those few are the only ones that are seriously considered. Whether you're for or against bathroom discrimination bills, that should give you pause.


[...]

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Yadoppsi posted:

I just wanted to repost this quote from Mr. Horrible, because these anti-queer laws are not coming from nowhere; edited for pertinacity.

The connection to Alliance Defending Freedom is much better supported than last week's determination that it must be Matt Staver and Liberty Counsel who were responsible.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.
DoJ sent an interesting letter to North Carolina:
HB2 violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Employment discrimination) and you've got 'till Monday to fix it.
Also, the universities are in violation of Title IX of the Education amendments of 1972.
Also, Dept of Public Safety is in violation of Title VII, too.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
A small town in Alabama called Oxford just released a brand new :eyepop:SUPER TOUGH bathroom law :eyepop:, passed unanimously... and then repealed it days later.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11518364/oxford-alabama-transgender-criminal

Cheers for people realizing how stupid this poo poo is or caving under pressure.

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
It's sad that we've made so much progress yet these terrible 1950s style entrapment stings seem to be something that just won't go away, even in very liberal areas.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/05/long_beach_police_rebuked_for_illegal_anti_gay_stings.html

quote:

Surveying this evidence, Dhanidina ruled that “the Long Beach Police Department harbored animus toward homosexuals in its undercover investigations of lewd conduct.” Dhanidina noted that, in addition to singling out gay men for prosecution, the vice detail prevaricated in its reports, falsely stating that citizens had complained about lewd same-sex conduct where they had set up their stings when no such complaints were ever lodged.

Moreover, every report about one particular restroom dwelt on its purported proximity to a high school—“despite the fact that the school was nearly a football field away,” that “none of the reports contained any reference to students from that school being present anywhere near the public restroom at the time of the investigation,” and that many investigations occurred “at night, after school hours.”

Dhanidina explained that the reports were clearly attempted to depict cruising as a threat to children, then concluded: "This position only finds support in the rhetoric of homophobia that seeks to portray homosexual men as sexual deviants and pedophiles. To the extent that the Long Beach Police Department has tried to appeal to this view by gratuitously referencing school children in the reports of their lewd conduct investigations, the court rejects it wholeheartedly."

This is one of those things that just sits under the radar because few people are willing to defend the people involved in this even when the police are using entrapment tactics and deliberately targeting gay men only.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



MaxxBot posted:

It's sad that we've made so much progress yet these terrible 1950s style entrapment stings seem to be something that just won't go away, even in very liberal areas.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/05/long_beach_police_rebuked_for_illegal_anti_gay_stings.html


This is one of those things that just sits under the radar because few people are willing to defend the people involved in this even when the police are using entrapment tactics and deliberately targeting gay men only.

I just like imagining female cops being told to go into men's restrooms and smile and stare at random men. They'd have half the city arrested within a fortnight.

Thank god the judge wasn't completely loving stupid here.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Mercury_Storm posted:

A small town in Alabama called Oxford just released a brand new :eyepop:SUPER TOUGH bathroom law :eyepop:, passed unanimously... and then repealed it days later.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11518364/oxford-alabama-transgender-criminal

Cheers for people realizing how stupid this poo poo is or caving under pressure.

Willing to bet they repealed it in anticipation of the Feds coming down hard on Carolina.

ecureuilmatrix
Mar 30, 2011

joat mon posted:

DoJ sent an interesting letter to North Carolina:
HB2 violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Employment discrimination) and you've got 'till Monday to fix it.
Also, the universities are in violation of Title IX of the Education amendments of 1972.
Also, Dept of Public Safety is in violation of Title VII, too.

NC is responding with "gently caress YOU DAD YOU CAN'T MAKE ME"
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article75797342.html

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
Time to wake the cybernetic husk of the Winter Sherman.

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Time to wake the cybernetic husk of the Winter Sherman.

I would follow a rampaging Robo-Sherman across the country like my friend's dad used to follow the Grateful Dead.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

And, lo, the Federal Courts did reach down and slap the gently caress out of North Carolina for not understanding the Supremacy Clause.

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