Prester Jane posted:

Thankfully this particular incident seems to be fake news originating with worldnewsdailyreport.com.

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"This unrealistic deadline by the federal government is quite amazing," he said in his Fox News interview. "It's the federal government being a bully."...
McCrory also points to the fact that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act uses the term "sex" when it comes to gender issues, and "Congress does not define sex" as something that can be chosen.

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The most straight forward reading of Title VII is that discrimination "because of ... sex" includes discrimination because an employee's gender identification is as a member of a particular sex, or because the employee is transitioning, or has transitioned, to another sex. As the Court explained in Price Waterhouse, by using "the simple words 'because of,' ... Congress meant to obligate" a Title VII plaintiff to prove only "that the employer relied upon sex-based considerations in coming to its decision." 490 U.S. at 241-242. It followsthat, as a matter of plain meaning, Title VII' s prohibition against discrimination "because of ... sex" encompasses discrimination founded on sex-based considerations, including discrimination based on an employee's transitioning to, or identifying as, a different sex altogether.

Al-Saqr posted:

Can someone explain to me what the Gender neutral bathroom signs actually mean? What's the difference between the blue signs and simply stating that a bathroom is Unisex?

CommieGIR posted:

Everything feed into their persecution narrative. The entire backstory for the Liberty Council and half the Evangelicals is that they are being oppressed by NOT being allowed to oppress others.

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Today, we are filing a federal civil rights lawsuit against the state of North Carolina, Governor Pat McCrory, the North Carolina Department of Public Safety and the University of North Carolina. We are seeking a court order declaring House Bill 2’s restroom restriction impermissibly discriminatory, as well as a statewide bar on its enforcement. While the lawsuit currently seeks declaratory relief, I want to note that we retain the option of curtailing federal funding to the North Carolina Department of Public Safety and the University of North Carolina as this case proceeds.

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fishmech posted:

Reminder that the first TERFs were people who got real mad when trans people dumped them.

There were feminists who didn't like trans people before that of course, but the TERF movement of people who were actively against them started with a bunch of feminists who got dumped.

Xanderkish posted:

Nah, terfs suck because they attack trans people under the guise of being progressive, and that arguably makes them more awful than people you can know and expect to hate you like the right. It's even more insidious because they can then be co-opted by right groups to further their own bigotry.

fishmech posted:

Janice Raymond was an activist for transgender rights before her partner transitioned (ftm) and left her because he didn't feel like he could be in a lesbian relationship anymore, at which point she immediately flipped and wrote The Transsexual Empire and started lobbying against things like medicare/medicaid covering anything to do with transpeople. Several other feminists of that time period had similar things happened and joined up with Janice Raymond.

Yardbomb posted:

Jesus christ what a loving shitbag.

Octatonic posted:

Regardless though, this kind of ideology sees gender identity as inherently a poisonous thing, particularly for people assigned female at birth, and rather than breaking down the system, to them, gender transition upholds it. IMO it's the great irony of a lot of feminist praxis, including modern trans inclusive/driven ones that we end up constantly recreating the gender binary in our quests to free ourselves from it, exchanging social position for hormonal status or, birth assignment, or some related intangible. IMO it's a mistake to center your analysis around birth sex assignment or internal gender identity when they're effectively invisible things, but that's another can of worms.

Keeshhound posted:

This leads be to a question I've been wondering about for a while but wasn't sure where to ask/if it would be offensive. If it is, just tell me and I'll retract it, but, for those here who ate trans and are comfortable talking about it:

If there was a safe, reliable chemical (meaning brain chemistry) treatment for gender dysphagia that would make you comfortable with the physical sex you were born with, would that be something you'd entertain using? Or is the condition one that you can only see being solved through physical reassignment?

OwlFancier posted:

You could similarly phrase the question as "what if gay conversion therapy worked" and get a similar answer.

Keeshhound posted:

I can own that, but to clarify; the reason I asked is that people say that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder a lot, and I can see the reasons for that, but it never really felt right to me as a classification. The responses I've gotten so far confirm that; if it really is just a disorder, then like depression you'd expect to be able to alleviate it somewhat by treating an underlying cause. That people reject the idea of "antidysphoria" drugs implies to me that calling it a mental disorder is too shallow a reading of the problem, and that it probably gives people the wrong idea about trans issues as a whole.

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Persons experiencing gender dysphoria need a diagnostic term that protects their access to care and won’t be used against them in social, occupational, or legal areas. When it comes to access to care, many of the treatment options for this condition include counsel-ing, cross-sex hormones, gender reassignment surgery, and social and legal transition to the desired gender. To get insurance coverage for the medical treatments, individuals need a diagnosis. The Sexual and Gender Identity Disorders Work Group was concerned that removing the condition as a psychiatric diagnosis—as some had suggested—would jeopardize access to care. Part of removing stigma is about choosing the right words. Replacing “disorder” with “dysphoria” in the diagnostic label is not only more appropriate and consistent with familiar clinical sexology terminology, it also removes the connotation that the patient is “disordered.” Ultimately, the changes regarding gender dysphoria in DSM-5 respect the individuals identified by offering a diagnostic name that is more appropriate to the symptoms and behaviors they experience without jeopardizing their access to effective treatment options.

Keeshhound posted:

Sorry, I was really just trying to get a better grasp on the issue beyond "some people are intentionally assholes to people who don't deserve it," and wound up unintentionally being one of those assholes.

Badger of Basra posted:

Too late, we're already getting some incredibly bad op-eds! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/opinion/the-scope-of-the-orlando-carnage.html


Jesus Christ.

Kylra posted:

Like, that has to be directed at reassuring the religious right that is still ok to hate gay people because it's still protestants that are truly persecuted, right?