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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA5JpK_aFSk Oliver Stone's latest masterpiece has a full trailer out. It features the following brilliant artistic choices: -the NSA working out of a bunker full of glass walls and computery poo poo -a protagonist passing a test in RECORD TIME! -JGL doing a goofy imitation accent of a guy with a fairly unremarkable voice -motion graphics showing the internet as a series of screens, tubes, and flashing lights, The best element is boiling down Snowden's protest to be basically "The NSA is gonna watch you gently caress!" Last Buffalo fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 18:25
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I get the feeling that you could just watch Last Week Tonight's bit on government surveillance and the Citizen Four documentary and be way more entertained and informed than watching this. But maybe for the sake of those people that have been living under a rock for the past 3-4 years and still have no idea who he is and what he did, making a movie about the government watching you go to the bathroom and making sexy time is worth it. Maybe in a way its like a really lovely looking version of The Big Short and Nicolas Cage is here to tell you it really happened!
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Apr 27, 2016 18:32
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Last Buffalo posted:The best element is boiling down Snowden's protest to be basically "The NSA is gonna watch you gently caress!" To be fair, as according to the Last Week Tonight bit that Betty mentioned, this is what it takes to get a regular person to actually give a poo poo about a global surveillance state. Timestamped embed below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M&t=1486s
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Apr 27, 2016 20:10
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Teaser is so Oliver Stone'd out I can't not go see this. Great filmmaker if rarely subtle.
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Apr 28, 2016 15:02
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Teaser is so Oliver Stone'd out I can't not go see this. Great filmmaker if rarely subtle. Yeah, that's how I feel as well. Though his voice thing is definitely going to distract me.
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Apr 28, 2016 18:54
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Nicholas Cage better just be playing his Bad Lieutenant character the whole movie
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Apr 28, 2016 23:16
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On the one hand, this movie looks gorgeous and I am glad the story is being told and the American Government being the bad guy is a strange but kinda...true trend. On the other hand though this movie looks as subtle as a strip club and I do not look forward to my arm chair activist friends on Facebook talking about it. Optimist with doubt fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 23:56
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There's no reason for this movie to stick to the truth. For that, there's already the unbeatable Citizenfour. This one looks hammy as gently caress and it's going to be awesome.
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May 2, 2016 15:26
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It's Oliver Stone so I guess I just gotta strap in for this nonsense.
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May 2, 2016 16:17
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That trailer does a really good job of making this movie look super both pretentious and like its typical over dramatized Hollywood dreck.
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May 2, 2016 18:21
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Last Buffalo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA5JpK_aFSk i mean this is a guy that made a movie about the jfk assassination that had something like 100+ errors.
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May 2, 2016 23:55
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Groovelord Neato posted:i mean this is a guy that made a movie about the jfk assassination that had something like 100+ errors. Hell of a yarn though.
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May 2, 2016 23:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:i mean this is a guy that made a movie about the jfk assassination that had something like 100+ errors. No thats real
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May 3, 2016 00:14
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Hat Thoughts posted:No thats real I used to think it was a bunch of mumbo jumbo, but it's true. All of it.
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May 3, 2016 00:16
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Hell of a yarn though. Yeah, I think liked JFK more after learning how much of it was bullshit. It's like an infowars history of the United States, but done with grace and style.
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May 3, 2016 06:49
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's Oliver Stone so I guess I just gotta strap in for this nonsense. Why? What forces you to endure his poo poo movies? World Trade Center was 10 years ago and people still haven't learned. Really sad
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May 3, 2016 07:22
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Nic Cage returns to theatres. I'm sold.
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May 3, 2016 08:28
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A CRUNK BIRD posted:Why? What forces you to endure his poo poo movies? World Trade Center was 10 years ago and people still haven't learned. Really sad 9/11 was 15 years ago, actually.
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May 3, 2016 09:41
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A CRUNK BIRD posted:Why? What forces you to endure his poo poo movies? World Trade Center was 10 years ago and people still haven't learned. Really sad I love Oliver Stone. Dude's been making bad movies since the 80's, by the way.
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May 3, 2016 12:19
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Platoon is the best Vietnam War movie
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May 3, 2016 14:17
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I keep forgetting that George W Bush movie was a thing. All I remember from that movie was Josh Brolin slo-mo choking on a pretzel.
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May 3, 2016 16:20
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Last Buffalo posted:Yeah, I think liked JFK more after learning how much of it was bullshit. It's like an infowars history of the United States, but done with grace and style. IIRC Stone actually said it was a 'counter-myth' to the Warren Commisson 'myth', so it wasn't ever supposed to be accurate (although it still pissed off Mark Lane). The opening montage leading up to the gunshot is the best thing Stone has ever done imo
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May 3, 2016 16:42
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Everything since Rush To Judgement has probably pissed Mark Lane off, I'm sure he felt like Martin Luther nailing up the Theses when he wrote that book.
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May 3, 2016 16:46
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MorgaineDax posted:I keep forgetting that George W Bush movie was a thing. All I remember from that movie was Josh Brolin slo-mo choking on a pretzel. It was very cathartic at the time. Like an exorcism for the culture.
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May 3, 2016 16:52
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A CRUNK BIRD posted:Why? What forces you to endure his poo poo movies? World Trade Center was 10 years ago and people still haven't learned. Really sad That might be his worst but even since then there's been interesting work. W. was fascinating and I'd never see Savages again but it had better action than most of its contemporaries. His films all have such an incredible, unique flow. He always overdoes it on the message front but the ride is always worth the price of admission.
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May 3, 2016 18:15
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While I like a lot of his films, he has absolutely terrible taste when it comes to style nowadays and can't keep his blowhard tendencies under control. Wall Street 2 has to be the dumbest screenplay I've ever seen produced, yet it really thinks it's speaking truth to power. The doc he directed, South of The Border, actually has a lot of really interesting points and observations, but it's completely undercut by him needing to film himself in a tan suit looking inquisitive after every goddamn bullet point. Snowden seems particularly bad because, as his past movies have shown, Oliver Stone doesn't really get the idea of the internet or modern media. After Bush, he's gotten pretty lazy when it comes to saying anything more than "The establishment sucks, man" and "Weed is cool," so I'm not expecting powerful new takes on intelligence and privacy.
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May 3, 2016 18:53
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Clipperton posted:IIRC Stone actually said it was a 'counter-myth' to the Warren Commisson 'myth', so it wasn't ever supposed to be accurate (although it still pissed off Mark Lane). the warren report wasn't a myth though. that's like ben stein calling expelled a "counter-myth".
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May 3, 2016 19:17
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Vegetable posted:Platoon is the best Vietnam War movie It's apparently a really good portrayal of Vietnam but it isn't a great movie.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the warren report wasn't a myth though. that's like ben stein calling expelled a "counter-myth". it is if you're oliver stone
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May 4, 2016 03:34
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I still really like a lot of W, definitely down with Nixon, Platoon... Apparently Savages was garbage?
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TheFallenEvincar posted:I still really like a lot of W, definitely down with Nixon, Platoon... Thandie Newton was so bad as Condoleezza though I think that movie is really important though, since it effectively conveys the image most people had of W during his first term, which will be useful when we need to explain to our children how he ever got re-elected
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LGD posted:Thandie Newton was so bad as Condoleezza though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVmVdOohAXg It's weird, because if Stone's intentions with W or Nixon was anything but humanizing them, thereby engendering more sympathy for them (well, not "them" so much as their Oliver Stone-y movie caricatures), he really dropped the ball.
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TheFallenEvincar posted:I still really like a lot of W, definitely down with Nixon, Platoon... Savages was good.
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May 5, 2016 16:03
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Savages was good. I hated it, but it was also weird so it gets points from me.
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May 5, 2016 16:18
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I hated it, but it was also weird so it gets points from me. Yeah I thought Savages was horrible but I didn't hate watching it. It just has so much crazy poo poo going on at all times.
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May 5, 2016 22:10
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Oh, don't get me wrong, it wasn't one of my favorites of that year, but I can't reasonably call a movie bad when it's that fun to watch.
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May 5, 2016 22:12
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That scene between Travolta and Benicio in the kitchen is why I bother with Oliver Stone movies post 90's.
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May 6, 2016 00:26
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Last Buffalo posted:The best element is boiling down Snowden's protest to be basically "The NSA is gonna watch you gently caress!" A little bird at the NSA told me this will be playing over the credits: https://youtu.be/4zH9Zca1vRM
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For me Alexander is probably the Stone movie I dislike the most, I mean I respect trying to make a sword and sandal historical epic in the 2000s, but it just isn't a good film.
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