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Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

"unemployed" is technically accurate, but feels a bit unfair to use on a literal millionaire.

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BrownThunder
Oct 26, 2005

EXTEND BEN!
Forever and ever and ever

The Bengals took that pick JUST to gently caress the Steelers. I cannot believe it

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Some midround reciever this weekend is going to make a shitload of money four years from now from teams doubling AJ Green and Eifert.

WAMPA_STOMPA
Oct 21, 2010
Fields sown with salt

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

Chichevache posted:

Wasn't one of the knocks on Apple that he might be rather... effete? :gay: Didn't Amukamura get bullied for the same thing his rookie season?



I think New York has a type. :sissies:

Don't forget all the Odell rumors.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

BrownThunder posted:

The Bengals took that pick JUST to gently caress the Steelers. I cannot believe it

Nah. That's just a perk. Bengals defense is predicated on having cornerback depth and their best is one of the oldest players and their second best is a mystery. I wish they had taken Nkemdichi, but Jackson makes a ton of sense in retrospect.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Coldforge posted:

He was the second highest player on their board. They give that pick the top rating in the draft.

I know it's puzzling.

axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Chichevache posted:

"unemployed" is technically accurate, but feels a bit unfair to use on a literal millionaire.

is anyone actually going to sign him? he's a trainwreck.

Shangri-Law School
Feb 19, 2013

Who are you, and what have you done with Jim Caldwell?

Pops Mgee
Aug 20, 2009

People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!
Tell me what to say to all the Packer fans that are mad that Ted Thompson didn't pick a name that they knew.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
The Browns are gonna trade up to another pick in the 2nd I think.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

cardinals with team all spice

Pistol Packin Poet
Nov 5, 2012

Everyone needs an
escape goat!

hifi posted:

cardinals with team all spice

if only we got tunsil

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

Pops Mgee posted:

Tell me what to say to all the Packer fans that are mad that Ted Thompson didn't pick a name that they knew.

Tell them they are dumb and the guy you guys (whose name is not coming to mind but I know it is the ucla dt) is really good

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

axeil posted:

is anyone actually going to sign him? he's a trainwreck.

Probably not until well after he stops getting his picture taken at bars

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

There should be some good pass rushers available for the Colts tomorrow, and if not then I'd be fine taking some of the DL or secondary talent that will almost certainly still be on the board.

If we can get Spence, Billings, Jack, or Chris Jones tomorrow I'll be thrilled. If we can get Ragland or Dodd I'll merely be pleased.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Yay Colts getting a center so Luck doesn't get killed again.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

Coldforge posted:

PFF's grades for the first round: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/04/28/draft-2016-nfl-draft-pick-by-pick-grades-and-analysis-of-round-1-2/

1. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Goff | Grade: A
2. Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz | Grade: A-
3. San Diego Chargers: Joey Bosa | Grade: A
4. Dallas Cowboys: Ezekiel Elliott | Grade: C+
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jalen Ramsey | Grade: A
6. Baltimore Ravens: Ronnie Stanley | Grade: B-
7. San Francisco 49ers: DeForest Buckner | Grade: A+
8. Tennessee Titans: Jack Conklin | Grade: B-
9. Chicago Bears: Leonard Floyd | Grade: B+
10. New York Giants: Eli Apple | Grade: C-
11. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Vernon Hargreaves | Grade: A-
12. New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Rankins | Grade: A
13. Miami Dolphins: Laremy Tunsil | Grade: A
14. Oakland Raiders: Karl Joseph | Grade: B+
15. Cleveland Browns: Corey Coleman | Grade: A
16. Detroit Lions: Taylor Decker | Grade: D+
17. Atlanta Falcons: Keanu Neal | Grade: D
18. Indianapolis Colts: Ryan Kelly | Grade: B
19. Buffalo Bills: Shaq Lawson | Grade: A-
20. New York Jets: Darron Lee | Grade: C-
21. Houston Texans: Will Fuller | Grade: C
22. Washington Redskins: Josh Doctson | Grade: A
23. Minnesota Vikings: Laquon Treadwell | Grade: C+
24. Cincinnati Bengals: William Jackson III | Grade: A
25. Pittsburgh Steelers: Artie Burns | Grade: D
26. Denver Broncos: Paxton Lynch | Grade: B
27. Green Bay Packers: Kenny Clark | Grade: C+
28. San Francisco 49ers: Joshua Garnett | Grade: C+
29. Arizona Cardinals: Robert Nkemdiche | Grade: B-
30. Carolina Panthers: Vernon Butler | Grade: B
31. Seattle Seahawks: Germain Ifedi | Grade: D
Reminder thse PFF nerds literally make things up and don't have a clue about the sport of football. But I agree Ifedi looks bad.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Cruel and Unusual posted:

Who are you, and what have you done with Jim Caldwell?



Reverse the curse

muon
Sep 13, 2008

by Reene
https://twitter.com/TheLegendMerlin/status/597605418744061952

I love this dude already

Ragnarok the Red
Jun 21, 2002
So are the Cowboys only sorta dumb or REALLY dumb for passing on Ramsey for Elliott?

I mean I would have preferred Ramsey also but thought Elliott was a close second choice, I think he can come comparably close to DeMarco's '14 production behind Dallas' offensive line while being less injury prone, and his blocking skills will hopefully help Romo not get killed over the next few years.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Let's play a game called pick out the agent

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/725894203079839751

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

I am so disappointed he won't be a Hawk. Even more so knowing he will be wrecking Ifedi for years to come.

Coldforge posted:

PFF's grades for the first round: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/04/28/draft-2016-nfl-draft-pick-by-pick-grades-and-analysis-of-round-1-2/

1. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Goff | Grade: A
2. Philadelphia Eagles: Carson Wentz | Grade: A-
3. San Diego Chargers: Joey Bosa | Grade: A
4. Dallas Cowboys: Ezekiel Elliott | Grade: C+
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jalen Ramsey | Grade: A
6. Baltimore Ravens: Ronnie Stanley | Grade: B-
7. San Francisco 49ers: DeForest Buckner | Grade: A+
8. Tennessee Titans: Jack Conklin | Grade: B-
9. Chicago Bears: Leonard Floyd | Grade: B+
10. New York Giants: Eli Apple | Grade: C-
11. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Vernon Hargreaves | Grade: A-
12. New Orleans Saints: Sheldon Rankins | Grade: A
13. Miami Dolphins: Laremy Tunsil | Grade: A
14. Oakland Raiders: Karl Joseph | Grade: B+
15. Cleveland Browns: Corey Coleman | Grade: A
16. Detroit Lions: Taylor Decker | Grade: D+
17. Atlanta Falcons: Keanu Neal | Grade: D
18. Indianapolis Colts: Ryan Kelly | Grade: B
19. Buffalo Bills: Shaq Lawson | Grade: A-
20. New York Jets: Darron Lee | Grade: C-
21. Houston Texans: Will Fuller | Grade: C
22. Washington Redskins: Josh Doctson | Grade: A
23. Minnesota Vikings: Laquon Treadwell | Grade: C+
24. Cincinnati Bengals: William Jackson III | Grade: A
25. Pittsburgh Steelers: Artie Burns | Grade: D
26. Denver Broncos: Paxton Lynch | Grade: B
27. Green Bay Packers: Kenny Clark | Grade: C+
28. San Francisco 49ers: Joshua Garnett | Grade: C+
29. Arizona Cardinals: Robert Nkemdiche | Grade: B-
30. Carolina Panthers: Vernon Butler | Grade: B
31. Seattle Seahawks: Germain Ifedi | Grade: D

How can PFF give the Cardinals a B- for picking a consensus top defensive talent with one of the last picks in the first round. :psyduck:

Chichevache fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Apr 29, 2016

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Usually financial advisors wait until after you retire to gently caress you over

Aniki
Mar 21, 2001

Wouldn't fit...
I'm really happy with the Treadwell pick. The Vikings have needed a big receiver for a long time and he gives them a physical receiver, who attacks the football, has a huge catch radius, and is a devastating run blocker. Teddy hasn't had a receiver who he could trust to make tough catches and I expect him to become a favorite target in the red zone. The Vikings have needed a receiver like this for a long time. I also want to thank Houston for trading up and jumping on the Fuller grenade. The Vikings apparent;y liked him a lot, but Fuller would have been a terrible fit for Minnesota's offense and would have been a terrible fit for their offense.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Chichevache posted:

I am so disappointed he won't be a Hawk. Even more so knowing he will be wrecking Ifedi for years to come.


How can PFF give the Cardinals a B- for picking a consensus top defensive talent with one of the last picks in the first round. :psyduck:

the same way they can give DeForest Buckner the highest grade in the draft

by being loving terrible

Abugadu
Jul 12, 2004

1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.

Pops Mgee posted:

Tell me what to say to all the Packer fans that are mad that Ted Thompson didn't pick a name that they knew.

That you go with the safe pick in the 1st round, that we have a massive hole at NT with Raji gone and Pennel suspended, and there were two NTs worth a 1st-2nd rounder, one of them being Clark. Clark is a big space eater who is strong enough to get penetration on passing downs as well, is young, and doesn't have medical issues.

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Chichevache posted:

I am so disappointed he won't be a Hawk. Even more so knowing he will be wrecking Ifedi for years to come.


How can PFF give the Cardinals a B- for picking a consensus top defensive talent with one of the last picks in the first round. :psyduck:

You could....follow the link and read what they have to say?

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012
Murray is going to be able to run the ball to the LoS before getting touched most of the time :unsmith:





i hope

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Lions didn't draft a TE, RB or WR in the first round.

That's a success, IMO.

Its Rinaldo
Aug 13, 2010

CODS BINCH

https://twitter.com/KofieSpeaks/status/725893628464340992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

http://twitter.com/JPedroza/status/725901119046574080/photo/1

Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Apr 29, 2016

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Seriously though I would have never thought we'd get such a steal while dodging the Eli Apple bullet

Oh thank you Giants thank you so much

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Pops Mgee posted:

Tell me what to say to all the Packer fans that are mad that Ted Thompson didn't pick a name that they knew.

"Damarious Randall"

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Coldforge posted:

You could....follow the link and read what they have to say?

Did you follow your own advice? The link is to quick blurbs and doesn't quite explain how a top 5 value rates a b-. They seem to think he's going to be a good fit in the Cards scheme, and they don't seem to think it wasn't a position of need for the Cardinals, so why grade so low?

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Coldforge posted:

You could....follow the link and read what they have to say?

They didn't say anything about smoking spice and jumping out of a hotel window, so he's a "former potential top 5 draft pick" picked at 29, and that's a B- grade completely on the basis of his football skills. Someone remind me why we give a poo poo about PFF

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

hifi posted:

They didn't say anything about smoking spice and jumping out of a hotel window, so he's a "former potential top 5 draft pick" picked at 29, and that's a B- grade completely on the basis of his football skills. Someone remind me why we give a poo poo about PFF


An idiot posted:

29. Arizona Cardinals: Robert Nkemdiche | Grade: B-

A former top recruit, Nkemdiche is one of the best interior pass rushers in the class (+23.4 ranks ninth) and his quick burst and power are tough to handle for opposing guards. Some of Nkemdiche’s struggles come in the running game — particularly when he’s playing on the interior — as he can get pushed off the point of attack against more powerful linemen. There are also times his explosiveness can disrupt in the running game, and there are ways to hide his deficiencies in the run game to maximize his down-to-down production. This pick will be remembered by how well Nkemdiche rushes the passer — if he can learn how to keep his balance and finish better, he’ll be a disruptive force in the middle of Arizona’s defense.

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

Chichevache posted:

Did you follow your own advice? The link is to quick blurbs and doesn't quite explain how a top 5 value rates a b-. They seem to think he's going to be a good fit in the Cards scheme, and they don't seem to think it wasn't a position of need for the Cardinals, so why grade so low?

Because that's what stone cold says so

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Chichevache posted:

Did you follow your own advice? The link is to quick blurbs and doesn't quite explain how a top 5 value rates a b-. They seem to think he's going to be a good fit in the Cards scheme, and they don't seem to think it wasn't a position of need for the Cardinals, so why grade so low?

Yes, they basically say he's a pass rush specialist who sucks against the run, so he needs to really turn out to be a great pass rusher to have value (and he has issues with balance and finishing that may prevent him from being great).

quote:

A former top recruit, Nkemdiche is one of the best interior pass rushers in the class (+23.4 ranks ninth) and his quick burst and power are tough to handle for opposing guards. Some of Nkemdiche’s struggles come in the running game — particularly when he’s playing on the interior — as he can get pushed off the point of attack against more powerful linemen. There are also times his explosiveness can disrupt in the running game, and there are ways to hide his deficiencies in the run game to maximize his down-to-down production. This pick will be remembered by how well Nkemdiche rushes the passer — if he can learn how to keep his balance and finish better, he’ll be a disruptive force in the middle of Arizona’s defense.

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

Rushing the passer from the interior is way more valuable than stopping the run though, and if you watched his tape he mostly gets blown off the ball from triple teams or "struggles" on double teams which would be almost literally impossible to do except it's happened to the texans last year. He's not a 'pass rush specialist' either when he's either playing between the tackles on meaningful snaps or stuck on the end when they are only rushing 3 in garbage time.

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Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

hifi posted:

Rushing the passer from the interior is way more valuable than stopping the run though, and if you watched his tape he mostly gets blown off the ball from triple teams or "struggles" on double teams which would be almost literally impossible to do except it's happened to the texans last year. He's not a 'pass rush specialist' either when he's either playing between the tackles on meaningful snaps or stuck on the end when they are only rushing 3 in garbage time.

Yeah, I dunno. I only watched him against Vanderbilt, but he looked good enough against the run to me.

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