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I wonder what the security services think about politicians branding everyone to the left of them as terrorists? With all the inane discussion on and offline it must increase their false lead workload by thousands.
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# ¿ May 1, 2016 11:08 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 14:54 |
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Pissflaps posted:Why do some people need to otherise those they find annoying? It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was Us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things. This is part of reason why you should respect Terry Pratchetts writing ability.
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# ¿ May 1, 2016 14:51 |
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Pissflaps posted:I like chips and fried rice and curry sauce from the chinese all in one tray mmm. I too like Chinese soups.
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# ¿ May 3, 2016 12:55 |
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The New Pissflaps: Going beyond the question
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# ¿ May 5, 2016 13:46 |
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I've only got PCC elections where I am and they're all saying the same thing about PCSOS and neighbourhood watches picking up the slack while saying there's too much bureaucracy about. gently caress that, can't even be arsed to spoil.
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# ¿ May 5, 2016 17:36 |
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This first year of Corbyn leadership has been rocky as hell, no question. If the threats of insurrection from the PLP continue to get in the way of anti-austerity arguments then yeah maybe it was all for nothing but it's a bit early to declare that.
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# ¿ May 6, 2016 10:48 |
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Osbourne says he is glad to hear Johnson is sober.
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# ¿ May 9, 2016 12:27 |
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I would play a video game where adventurers or politicians have to murder famous architectural landmarks which have come to life and are rampaging around like Shadow of the Collussus.
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# ¿ May 9, 2016 16:15 |
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It's top grade trolling because it appears to be a generous offer but when almost no one takes it up they can go 'arrogant/soft westerners just hate Mother Russia!'
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# ¿ May 9, 2016 21:10 |
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Chucat posted:Wasn't this actually what the opening and ending of the political discussion show On the Record was? Yeah but they cancelled all the actions bits and had a rubbish Telltale esque 'Your choices matter' game instead.
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# ¿ May 9, 2016 22:43 |
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The only solution to right-wing power of any size is leftwing power. We've seen the left hosed in both the UK and the EU so it's a hard call but as I said last thread expecting anything leftwing to come from the EU in its current institutional form is hoping that legacy legislation and inertia will provide it, reform isn't going to come before collapse so if you want anything different from a leftwing basis it's got to be Leave. Sadly the same is true for things on a more right-wing basis, but a left paralysed by fear of the right is no good either.
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# ¿ May 10, 2016 18:23 |
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Dabir posted:The right is in power right now and the question is being asked on their terms. Then abstain because neither option is actually about helping Europeans, it's about who gets to make their lives worse and how.
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# ¿ May 10, 2016 18:37 |
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Galaspar posted:Does anyone have a trusted poll (well, trusted as a poll can be) for the EU referendum in the last few days? I can't shake the feeling that we're about to sleepwalk into Brexit, with a strident Leave campaign getting the vote out while the broadly satisfied majority stay at home. Wouldn't suprise me if Cameron is keeping back some massive fear-bomb to get the Remain vote out in the last few days. Shame the politics of fear became so unfashionable lately. Witness and suffer! http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls/
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# ¿ May 10, 2016 23:09 |
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Maybe they each got to pick each others.
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# ¿ May 10, 2016 23:23 |
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Zalakwe posted:That's coming for a similar, albeit far more successful, electoral vehicle soon imo. Or hope, I'm not sure anymore. La....Labour?
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# ¿ May 11, 2016 13:26 |
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Lesbian sword fights were banned under the Tory anti-porn legislation I'm afraid.
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# ¿ May 11, 2016 14:00 |
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Don't vote: it'll only encourage them. Wow I just said that in a fairly earnest way.
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# ¿ May 11, 2016 23:26 |
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I'd say it's because the UK labour movement was misogynistic as hell historically and that image if not practise carried over to its political party.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 10:18 |
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kustomkarkommando posted:As someone who lives in a border county the Leave side has not convinced me they have any idea about what will actually happen if a Leave vote is successfully or that they've actually thought about it very much A Vote for Leave is a vote for anarchy. An argument for both sides to use.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 13:39 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Someone please tell me soothing lies about how whichever way I vote JC will sort it all out and drive the Tories from the temple with a flail. Following a vote to Remain David Cameron happily declares that Britain has seen the way forward and happily declares the the UK is a proud member of the European project with a firm belief in its independent rights as a country and happily declares a future of prosperity for all of England. He and most of cabinet is then shot by an angry racist. Following a vote to Leave David Cameron happily declares that Britain has seen the way forward and happily declares the the UK is a proud member of the European project but has a firm belief in its independent rights as a country and happily declares a future of prosperity for all of England. He and most of cabinet is then shot by an angry capitalist.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 19:18 |
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Tesseraction posted:is there a number that represents me headbutting him in the dick while making GBS threads on his face? That's the Rusty Venture.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 20:02 |
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XMNN posted:is it your underpants In your bloodstream.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 22:00 |
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Someone on facebook pointed out that as the government holds an anti-corruption summit they've been taken to court over their own iffy failure to submit the receipts for the battle bus at the election. Heh.
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# ¿ May 12, 2016 22:34 |
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Lol why did he resign in the first place?
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# ¿ May 13, 2016 18:34 |
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So let's take the right wing of Labour seriously for a moment and say that Corbyn should adopt some of their platform so they find enough common ground to work together: what the hell do they want him to actually do? Support military campaigns started by the government? Stop talking about protecting British industry by any means including nationalisation? The Labour right wing is trapped in a situation where they whine about how being out of power is bad because you can't help people yet cannot articulate any way of helping people except for what is already being done by the Tories only sometimes less so. Why should anyone listen to them?
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# ¿ May 13, 2016 19:07 |
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I'm reading some fairly interesting things about the problems of using averages when doing statistical analysis (i.e. the dominant idea that averages (means) are somehow the least wrong representation of a population overall rather than potentially a value or construction which matches none of the population at all) and I'm wondering if there's an application of that to politics. Seeking a political platform which tries to sit itself in the middle ground either between either publicly acceptable ideological positions or the territory of competing parties to try and sap away edge voters from all positions doesn't seem to be working from seeing the Lib Dem meltdown and rise of the far right so if we're in an age where median voter theory is stupid trash for idiots how should political parties organise? If we were in a 'most wants satisfied' mode of thinking with multiple 'strains' of people with different beliefs then we'd be seeing rising popularity of parties along those lines, so does that mean there's only really two strains in the UK: right and far right? Or should we consider the Labour revival the action of the Left in the UK? Not needing to judge it by its success (for now), only its presence. It's hard to see where it should go from there though, trapped in a state of popularity with its base but unable to set policy to achieve its goals nor shake the bedrock of society to grow in strength. Works for the KKE I guess.
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# ¿ May 13, 2016 22:34 |
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Tesseraction posted:so in other words you've heard the term 'pasokification' Well I guess but that refers to the death of a party, not the change in conception of political activity. Most Pasokification is argued that the party was too rightwing for the times, not that it tried to strike a deal between groups that members of the groups were no longer interested in. OwlFancier posted:Work to expand its base. Yeah but how do you move from a political outlook where voters have a matrix of political positions and you win by carving the neatest line through all of them to get the most votes and a view that there are distinct groupings of voters which you cannot just tailor tax policy or whatever and draw them away from their voting intention. How do you stop appealing to the public and instead get the public to change?
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# ¿ May 13, 2016 23:54 |
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That still seems to rely on the idea of the masses not being educated properly about what is really good for them and how an innovative campaign will turn it all around as they start making rational choices along their matrix of preferences. I'm just wondering if an approach which doesn't take that as given is better suited to times when information and argument is always available and yet things are not changing as you'd expect or hope.
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# ¿ May 14, 2016 00:11 |
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Darth Walrus posted:John Lewis was the John Lewis. As in, the department store chain that also runs Waitrose. He founded the company and made it a workers' collective. Pretty decent dude. Ah ok so Rhodes is the edgy pick to ensure there's outrage over this book with resulting publicity because otherwise why the gently caress would anyone buy or read it? Really it's not even one of the books that right-wing businesses would buy in bulk to push it up the best seller list.
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# ¿ May 14, 2016 11:39 |
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TheHoodedClaw posted:He inherited the company, but had a crisis of conscience and turned it into a workers collective. He gets a pass from me. It's the best to hope for from the bourgeoisie.
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# ¿ May 14, 2016 13:33 |
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Marenghi posted:At one point we were winning so often the RTE deliberately chose a rubbish song because it was costing too much to host the events. That backfired and we went on to win again. https://youtu.be/jzYzVMcgWhg vvvv Nah, increasingly bizarre remixes of My Lovely Horse namesake fucked around with this message at 08:20 on May 15, 2016 |
# ¿ May 15, 2016 07:55 |
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serious gaylord posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-a7027446.html A hahaha loving hell we are such a corrupt poo poo hole built on money stolen from the people of the world. They only didn't stuff ballots because it wasn't needed.
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# ¿ May 15, 2016 09:48 |
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I suppose it's relevant to compare to asking Americans how many states the USA has as a marker of knowledge about their European identity but it doesn't really swing it one way or the other as it's a lack of knowledge about the EU for those who want to leave but it shows the failure of education and importance of the EU for those who want to stay.
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# ¿ May 15, 2016 11:01 |
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The EU anthem should be whatever won the latest Eurovision contest.
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# ¿ May 15, 2016 13:07 |
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Are we down to four now? The recession must have hit them hard. Their Murders and Acquisitions sections are booming actually.
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# ¿ May 15, 2016 20:57 |
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JFairfax posted:Murders and Executions... Yes but it makes less sense with the actual quote! Edit: 1981: The first Delorean is made in Northern Ireland. Sadly no one uses it to go back in time and stop Thatcher. namesake fucked around with this message at 21:13 on May 15, 2016 |
# ¿ May 15, 2016 21:10 |
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Lol I can really see the Remain side throwing this. This is just nuts. Who reckons there'll be some sort of capitulation from the EU where we sort of leave but the structure of the EU isn't threatened by it if we go?
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# ¿ May 16, 2016 09:08 |
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I hear they have tennis table tables in their breakrooms and encourage relationships between staff so that there's less chance of someone's partner being a security risk.
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# ¿ May 16, 2016 14:33 |
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Through joint struggle and excellent posting the people will be united into a real Commonwealth.
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# ¿ May 16, 2016 21:47 |
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All posters go to bed now there's school in the morning.
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# ¿ May 16, 2016 23:58 |