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Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Here, have a picture of Belichick jr taking questions today:

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Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



So the Patriots convinced offensive line god Dante Scarrnecchia to come back after a two year hiatus in which the Patriots OL fell to pieces.

He gave his introductory interview, and boy does he sound... tired

quote:

“It is a tough decision. You get pretty used to a very nice lifestyle. I’m going to tell you, I like retiring now. Retirement was great. It was a lot of fun. We saw things we hadn’t seen ever, took trips, and spent a lot of time with our grandkids. All that was great. To a degree, it’s very, very, hard to give up,” he said.

“But we talked about it, my wife and I, and decided that this would be a good thing on a lot of different levels -- as far as the grandkids being able to come to the game for free, and just be part of it all. And I like coaching football. I love coaching football. I didn’t retire because I didn’t like coaching football. I retired because I got tired of the lifestyle. After two years off, I’m OK.”

“When I got back, the second day we were in a 14-hour personnel meeting and I said, ‘Oh my God.’ But it’s all right. … Hours are long, days are long. It’s a tough business. It’s a really tough business. I was willing to step back into it despite all that."

Please just last until Brady retires Dante.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:

Imagine, he stated that schools for his kids were a big consideration when selecting a team to sign with, so he chose Baltimore.

Yeah, and he's white as hell, so they get to go to the good schools

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Ehud posted:

https://twitter.com/abramsonpbp/status/740944299693617154

let's get one of the best deep threats, overall wideouts and slot guys together and workout it'll be awesome! anyone know a QB?

https://twitter.com/abramsonpbp/status/740944728565395456

:chloe:

To be fair, Brown and Beckham are probably the top two guys you'd want at scooping up incredibly lovely passes, and who better to provide then Geno?

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Maybe players should play in shorts

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Saints 2nd round pick DE Hau'oli Kikaha tore his ACL. His third ACL tear after 2 in college.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



NC-17 posted:

injuries are gay

Also Patriots TE/T Michael Williams tore his ACL.

Decent blocker, absolutely no hands. Was going to be fighting with Clay Harbor (former Eagles/Jaguars TE) for a roster spot.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



You gotta remember to do the checking the meat dance. It's in the rules.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Yeah, in OTA's some UDFA's are making a name for themselves and getting some 3rd/4th year special teams players put on thin ice.

Beyond that, the worst of your teams' starting spots have some modest competition going, but for the most part, the stuff happening now is just seeing who's going to be the first names X'ed out when they have to cut from 90 to 75.

Also someone probably tore their ACL, because life is pain.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



NC-17 posted:

Yeah, that's true I guess about the guys on the rear end end of the roster being on thin ice.

But you know the reports about "QB is light years ahead of where he was last season!" are so ridiculous.

Oh of course. But hey man, beatwriters gotta write something... actually hell, I think Kevin Clark just wrote something about this:

https://theringer.com/nfl-minicamps-offseason-news-cycle-smart-fans-857f4a78f554#.koq1egn19

quote:

Consider this: In May 2013, center Mike Pouncey said he’d noticed Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill getting more vocal, going so far as to call Tannehill the “commander-in-chief” in the huddle. That assessment proved premature, but in June 2014, a teammate again praised Tannehill’s growth. “He’s more of a leader now,” said then-teammate Marcus Thigpen. “He’s more vocal. He was a little quiet last year. But this year he steps up a lot the way he talks to the players and coaches. He’s taking a lead role now.” Thigpen also wound up being ahead of schedule, but in June 2015, it appeared that Tannehill’s leadership was finally, really, truly ready to break through. “[He’s] kind of taking the team on his shoulders and knowing that, hey, we’ve got to come out here every day and put something great together,” teammate Kenny Stills said. Was he right? Well, this month, Pouncey once again found himself talking about Tannehill’s leadership. “I think he’s been a lot more vocal this year as a leader,” Pouncey said. Sensing a trend here, offseason news consumers?

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



I love OTA reports

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Intruder posted:

He's still no Brennan Williams


Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Grittybeard posted:

You don't use the #3 overall pick of the draft to fill 3 years unless maaaaaaybe you're a Super Bowl contender who got that pick out of a trade. Even then, keep in mind, he has to be bad enough to flat out cut, as in not good enough merit a roster spot as a backup, in the fourth year for this to matter at all.

Also this isn't a ton of money in NFL terms. I understand fighting it on principal or whatever right up until the pick starts missing practice time.

Yeah, a bust-y first round draft pick tends to just not get their 5th year option picked up. You have to be incredibly bad to not at least play out your 4th year.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Actually, let's look at this

We'll look at top 10 picks only since there's a point pretty early on where the money becomes pretty irrelevant.

2012:
2 - RG3
3 - Trent Richardson
2011:
10 - Blaine Gabbert
2010:
8 - Rolando McClain
2009:
2 - Jason Smith

So I guess like one a year on average flames out bad enough to not hit year 4?

2013 Could conceivably add Dion Jordan considering he lost a year to suspension

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



LiquidFriend posted:

Cool so the one thing they need to do less of is what they started with.

Alex Smith is the quarterback. That whole "throwing 10 yards down the field" thing just isn't going to work, so might as well master the short game a hundred times over.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Benne posted:

Connor Cook is one of those guys the college football media hypes up to godly levels and then you sit down to actually watch a Michigan State game and you're like "he's okay but I don't see the big deal" and then he graduates and actually lasts a few years in the NFL because some poor sucker wasted a fourth-round pick on him so he rots away as an anonymous third-stringer before disappearing from the face of the earth.

Call it the Matt Barkley Principle.

The best is when those guys go to a good team and then they get multiple chances even when they're meth faced stone footed bums who can't read a defense.

And their fans think they can get draft picks for him.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



sean10mm posted:

Ahahahaha they're already talking up Aaron loving Dobson's training camp! :laffo:

So with Edelman, Amendola and Hogan and Slater locks, there's at most 2 spots depending on how many TE's they keep, so please Nate Washington, please have something left in the tank and be able to get within the same zipcode as Brady.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



That is the best thing.

Why the hell am I doing this coach?

God Matt, I'm sorry, I don't... god damnit.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



https://twitter.com/jakeks19/status/762337619711852547

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



It's weird, because it's not like Hackenberg is getting reps right now. They aren't going to play him this year, Fitz has to get re-acquanted with the offense, Geno Smith still theoretically could develop into something at some point and is the clear backup, and they need to figure out if they're going to keep Bryce Petty on the roster, so when's Hackenberg even getting a chance to suck rear end?

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Edelman is really good, so it'll suck if he's injured for any length of time.

He just came off the pup, so he hopefully just reaggravated something.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001




Good advice for Hopkins at least.

But man, Randy is the best.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Shath Hole posted:

Falcons get Panthers reject? Checks out.

I wonder how much he charges for this lol. I can only hope to live life half as hard as the Nature Boy at that age!

From listening to a podcast where one of the hosts went to Wrestlemania. Ric Flair just sits in the hotel bar of where ever he is and drinks all night, every night.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001




haha gently caress, I was writing that too.

And yeah, Ric Flair's life is really depressing, there's a really good Grantland article from a few years back I'd recommend: http://grantland.com/features/the-wrestler-real-life/

The first line is: "Ric Flair has been physically attacked by at least three of his four wives."

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Rob Ninkovich is the most cerebral lunchpail scrappy uhm.... let's go with Mike Vrabelesque player.

He's always been weird in how consistent he is. He has either 6.5 or 8 sacks in each of the last 5 seasons

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:

Was Jerry Olsavsky ever a Patriot? If so, him and Vrabel were originally drafted by the Steelers. Which means when Tyler Matakevich is inevitably released, he's the heir to Ninkovich.

All 4 of them are like, archetypal Cowher late round picks

Nah, he went to I think the LeBeau Steelers then spent a year in Baltimore once he left Pittsburgh.

But yeah, the Steelers used to be one of like 3 teams running the 3-4, so when Belichick implemented it he was all over your castoffs and practice squad with his hobo cart.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



I gotta say that the Nate Ebner thing has been pretty cool.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/763081729485729792

Also, thank god Edelman's okay, and that really sucks for Ragland.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Normally Belichick makes like a dozen transactions a week as he churns the bottom of the roster, and so far in all of camp, he's cut one guy total because Nate Ebner is back from the olympics.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Hi I'm Johnny Knoxville and welcome to Jonestown.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



poo poo I'd watch a movie where Johnny Knoxville is the dopey cultist assigned to escorting Senator Ryan around the compound and the wacky hijinks that entails.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



I glanced at the 2011 draftermath thread to see if anyone was bitching about Cam.

Gave up after 4 pages of nothing, but I did see:

nuncle jimbo posted:


I would take Cam Newton over Christian Ponder in a heartbeat, pick number and pay and all that poo poo aside


Ponder screams Sage Rosenfels to me

So good job nuncle jimbo.

Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/765954471285227520

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Kalli
Jun 2, 2001



Feel I should mention that 2011 was also pretty much when TFF was at its lowest against top drafted QB's. They cost a billion dollars and had been mostly underperforming for a long while:

Like, going into the 2011 draft you were staring at:

2010: 1-1 Sam Bradford
2009: 1-1 Matthew Stafford
2009: 1-5 Mark Sanchez
2008: 1-3 Matt Ryan
2007: 1-1 JaMarcus Russell
2006: 1-3 Vince Young
2005: 1-1 Alex Smith

Matt Ryan was good at the time, and people though Stafford could really be something, but gently caress man, this was a dire time for lovely teams to be grabbing QB's sucking and getting stuck.

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