NFL Training Camp/OTA Thread: "No weaknesses in Legedu Naanee's game" -Omar

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Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

This thread is to chat about the goings on...going ons...the stuff happening at rookie mini camps, OTA's and training camp.

Miami is taking a very different approach to rookie mini camps:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2016/05/miami-dolphins-unveiling-a-radical-idea-for-rookie-minicamp.html

quote:

The Miami Dolphins will have their eight draft picks and 10 undrafted free agents in town beginning Thursday, and rookie minicamp will go from Friday to Sunday. And the rookies will not touch the field at the team's training facility once during those three days.

No pads. No helmets.

No practice during minicamp.

Brilliant!

No, really. This is happening. And it is really smart. And radical.

Adam Gase has been planning for months as coach of the Dolphins -- and for over a year before he became an NFL head coach -- how he would handle something that seems so mundane to the rest of the world as a rookie minicamp. And he's got ideas. And he's implementing those this week.

And they will not include actual practices on the field.

Instead Dolphins rookies will spend all their time during this minicamp in classroom sessions learning how to be Miami Dolphins. That means they're going to get schooled on the schemes they're playing, their assignments, and everything football that involves the brain.

But they're also going to get a little polished up as people. They're going to get life labs to help them with nutrition, financial planning, sports science, and dealing with the media -- the last of which is a big part of their job believe it or not.

The point of all of this is two-fold and here is the genius part, in my opinion.

Gase wants to combat the rookie wall syndrome that seems to stop some rookies dead in their tracks come late November or December. There is a theory these young men hit that wall because they're playing four preseason and 16 regular-season games in the NFL and usually play 12 games -- maybe three more if they're on the best teams -- in college.

There may be validity to that.

But this: The Dolphins understand every single one of these rookies regardless of where they went to school, just played their 2015 seasons and as soon as that was over they began training.

They trained for the Indianapolis Combine.

They trained for their Pro Days.

They trained for the various workouts they did for teams privately.

And they also spent much of the past six weeks or so flying all over the United States (greatest country on Earth) to meet with the various team coaches, general managers and others who might be deciding whether to pick them.

That takes a toll. So Gase believes it's time to take the foot off that pedal for these rookies. He doesn't want to burn them out physically.

Meanwhile, Gase wants these guys more mentally ready to be a factor the next time they get on the field, which will be with veterans. Dolphins vets have been in their conditioning program for four weeks and just had a minicamp of their own where they got coached on the playbook and such.

So Gase wants to get the rookies as caught up as possible up mentally as quickly as possible so when they get on the field, there is less hesitation and they play faster.

So what's the downside?

The Dolphins don't think there is any but if you have to nitpick, it means the Dolphins won't be bringing 30-40 players to camp as tryouts. Teams typically do that so they can actually field a weekend of rookie minicamp practices. The players gladly come for a chance to catch someone's eye and get a big break.

None of that this year.

So do the Dolphins miss out on an opportunity to find ... to find ... I cannot think of a player who was discovered as a tryout and went on to greatness in the NFL. Not this century, anyway.

The Dolphins simply believe their energies should be better focused on getting the 10 or so rookies that are actually going to make this team ready to contribute as quickly as possible rather than finding that improbable one kid who comes out of nowhere and takes the team to the Super Bowl.

I think the odds favor the Dolphins in this regard.

The Dolphins recently had a veteran minicamp. Here are some highlights of that...

# ¿ May 2, 2016 21:27

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 05:51

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Eifert Posting posted:

I would be down with Bengals stealing Miami's idea.

(First time I've ever thought that, for sure.)

I like the idea a lot, the more I think about it.

The rookie mini camp is fun to follow along on Twitter, but I question how useful it actually is. At best, you start hearing some buzz about an UDFA who then disappears completely when training camp begins. The stuff Gase has planned seems like a potentially more productive use of the limited time teams are allotted to spend with their rookies.

I also like that this is evidence that Gase isn't afraid to challenge conventional wisdom and approach things from a new perspective.

lol we'll have a new coach in 3 years

# ¿ May 3, 2016 15:57

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/jimtrotter_nfl/status/728628459417690112

Copycat league now not even waiting to see if an idea works!

# ¿ May 6, 2016 17:55

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2016/05/post-practice-sunday-update-on-whitesides-injury-heats-adjustments-and-more.html

quote:

Four years after unsuccessfully trying to sign him, the Dolphins finally got Peyton Manning in their building this offseason. And it was entirely his idea.

It speaks volumes about new Dolphins coach Adam Gase that Manning chose to quietly visit Dolphins headquarters earlier this spring to meet with Gase (his former offensive coordinator in Denver) and share some knowledge with Ryan Tannehill.

�It was really cool,� Tannehill told me. �A guy that had his career, the living legend he is, coming off a Super Bowl winning season --- it was really cool just to be able to sit and pick his brain about things he's done in this offense and football things in general: snap counts, things you like, the way you want guys to run routes, little details about the game. We really just got to talk the game, which is something we both love.�

Manning, who is now retired, told Tannehill some of the nuances of Gase�s offense.

�At that time, we weren't able to meet with the coaches or anything, so I didn�t really have a great handle yet,� Tannehill said. �So I wasn't really able to dive into the playbook too much. So I had a few questions [for Manning]. If he comes back now, we can have a completely different conversation.�

What was clear, Tannehill, said is that Manning �respects Adam. The things they did, getting to a Super Bowl together, there is a mutual respect there. He is something I aspire to be, as good or better as he is one day. Hopefully, we'll be able to get him to come around some more.�

if you spend time with somebody you absorb some of their skills right

# ¿ May 9, 2016 13:16

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Miami's first session open to the media is tomorrow. I'll see how many "Ryan Tannehill has turned the corner" tweets I can find to share with you all.

# ¿ May 25, 2016 22:16

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

AAA DOLFAN posted:

This is Omar Kelly's Super Bowl and you're wasting my time talking about Ryan Tannehill?

Omar told us last year that Tannehill turned the corner and had become an elite QB because of OTA's and camp hehe

# ¿ May 25, 2016 22:37

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

I can't believe you guys don't remember when Omar was telling Miami fans that Tannehill had arrived, he looks different this year, he's making all the throws, don't worry Dolphins fans you've finally got a QB, blah blah blah. Then the games started and Omar backed off of it, stating that Tannehill is only good in practice but shrinks in games because he can't KILL.

# ¿ May 26, 2016 01:16

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

It's like I'm the only Dolphins fan here who reads Omar Kelly's timeline religiously and saves all the dumbest tweets or something!

# ¿ May 26, 2016 01:17

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/735656647272468480

That's actually cool IMO

# ¿ May 26, 2016 03:34

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

NC-17 posted:

Guidelines for Posting to ehud

- Don't forget your preworkout!
- I don't respond to stupid newbies.
- Not interested in any talk of the Dolphins winning less or more than 8 games.
- Mentioning Joe Philbin will get you added to ignore.
- Don't be a terrorist.

lol

# ¿ May 26, 2016 17:39

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Dolphins ota update

Suh is good and is ruining practice for our scrub OL

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 16:36

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/abramsonpbp/status/740944299693617154

let's get one of the best deep threats, overall wideouts and slot guys together and workout it'll be awesome! anyone know a QB?

https://twitter.com/abramsonpbp/status/740944728565395456

:chloe:

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 18:04

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/740950394453397505

lol

https://twitter.com/nflstroud/status/740949543265636354

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 18:16

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Kalli posted:

To be fair, Brown and Beckham are probably the top two guys you'd want at scooping up incredibly lovely passes, and who better to provide then Geno?

so Geno is like a human batting donut

I like this theory

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 18:29

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

NC-17 posted:

injuries are gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bff_09uGi70

is this you

# ¿ Jun 9, 2016 19:58

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

The Big Jesus posted:

A bunch of friends were in town for the weekend. We were partying until about 4am Friday night. Since the plan was to have the shoulders for dinner, I knew there was no way they would be ready when everybody would want them unless I cooked them overnight. It was my first attempt at an overnight smoke, and only the second time actually smoking something (brisket came out perfect first time). Drunk me didn't put the meat and pan in before getting it up to temperature, and instead waited until it was at 225. I opened it up to put the stuff in but left a couple things inside and ended up taking a couple minutes to close the smoker. And I passed out immediately. By then the temp skyrocketed. Hell I only got up at 8 still drunk because my dogs needed to go out. I figured I'd check the meat. Saw the thermometer was at 500 and figured it was broken or something. Opened it up and just started screaming.

Made another shoulder the weekend after for Thanksgiving and it came out perfect though.

FTFY

# ¿ Jun 10, 2016 21:37

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

indigi posted:

as opposed to Fitzpatrick's ball security, so renowned that six NFL teams have realized that it was unjust to cage such a rare, beautiful butterfly and set him loose to test the waters of free agency

I mean, Fitz isn't great, but Geno is legitimately one of the worst QB's in the NFL.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 17:47

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Why are they getting rid of Monroe again?

Also:

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/743052328085954562

lol @ Omar Kelly for saying Reshad was going to sit out games

# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 13:27

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/abramsonpbp/status/743541341490028544

lol

He got beat out by a 7th round rookie

# ¿ Jun 16, 2016 21:35

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Raku posted:

Doughty led like the best offense in FBS to be fair

It is insane that he had almost 10k yards and 100 TD's combined between his junior and senior years :stare:

# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 00:30

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

It looks like Gase and all his trash talking of the defense has been sort of contagious

https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/743607186719313920

lol @ Suh motioning for an unsportsmanlike flag

# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 02:00

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

fsif posted:

Bills beat writers are very high on Tyrod right now. I have no frame of reference for its relevance to the regular season as I've never read anything positive about Bills quarterbacks in my life.

I was told by several beat reporters and national guys that Tannehill had arrived last training camp

edit: also he looked really good in the preseason

# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 18:55

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

So the same guy we've had for four years so far, got it.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 20:15

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

fsif posted:

Can't wait for Tannehill to disappoint slightly and then watch Miami roll in with a much worse quarterback in 2017.

No it goes:

"he's in a new offense so you can't count this year against him

2017* is the new make or break year"

*Parker and Landry will both hit IR in week 3 and Tannehill will be the QB in 2018 as well because he lost his WRs

# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 22:06

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Ehud in 2023 posted:

Ryan Tannehill... I think he's all right. Give him some more time with his new coaches!

# ¿ Jun 19, 2016 19:08

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/756447662174416896

Almost there

# ¿ Jul 22, 2016 12:34

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/757194614147133442

# ¿ Jul 24, 2016 13:49

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Looks like profanity is allowed at Dolphins camp again

https://twitter.com/shanerauso/status/758064197196316672

Ehud fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Jul 27, 2016

# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 03:44

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/758280450565562368

# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 14:06

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

NC-17 posted:

Joe Philbin is rolling over in his Chevy Malibu.

Now I am imagining him in one of those stupid commercials. Thank you.

# ¿ Jul 27, 2016 15:15

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/758647890466181120

# ¿ Jul 28, 2016 14:28

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

AAA DOLFAN posted:

This year for Miami it'll be Jakeem Grant a 5'6 165 lb 4.2 speedster who will TOTALLY play receiver in the NFL you guys

This is what I actually believe

# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 00:46

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/gunnerhal/status/758980889967628289

I'd be on the horn with Cromartie at this point. We need warm bodies.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 13:05

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

I just realized Cam Wake is not on the PUP list :stonk:

# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 13:25

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/759017004128804865

# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 14:50

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

FizFashizzle posted:

Kelvin Benjamin looked really good in camp yesterday.

Please keep your tendons in one piece you oddly proportioned football freak

my buddy was just asking me if I wanted to head up to Wofford

# ¿ Jul 29, 2016 17:14

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/adamhbeasley/status/759357970895495168

they found my truck y'all

# ¿ Jul 30, 2016 14:32

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

Waroduce posted:

Any news on the oregon corner the fins picked up from the browns who shredded his knee right befotr the draft last yr

Ifo Ekpre-Olomu. I haven't read his name once, which might be a good thing for a corner.

All I know is he passed his conditioning test even though his knee was goo, while totally healthy Bobby McCain somehow did not.

# ¿ Jul 31, 2016 12:03

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/armandosalguero/status/759723002057650176

https://twitter.com/armandosalguero/status/759723417738350592

lol

# ¿ Jul 31, 2016 13:15

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 05:51

Ehud: Sep 19, 2003; football.

https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/759724179134570496

https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/759724253306556416

# ¿ Jul 31, 2016 13:17

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