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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...

Death By Yogurt posted:

I'm a high school English teacher and most of my day is spent pretending I don't get whatever Internet meme the kids are spouting at me.

I'm a new teacher, and made the mistake of understanding the meme my students were talking about, and writing 'y u do dis' underneath it in red pen.

also lol @people saying teachers get lots of free time and holiday. after i finish lesson planning, assembling resources and grading, it's past midnight

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the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona
my moms not a teacher but shes a high school guidance counselor and she might just be the most thoroughly miserable person ive ever met in my life haha

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot
what the hell do those counselors even do, i mean ive met one or two good teachers but never met or even heard of a counselor that was good

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
*16 year old walks into workplace.

"Hey Paul can you show this kid how to revamp the projections workbooks -- at least the Excel end?"

"No, he obviously isn't going to be able to do that."

"Oh well okay they. Guess I'll take him back to the highschool and demand that someone over there does it because they have magic powers that can fix his inherent water-brainesq mediocrity."

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona

gently caress the ROW posted:

what the hell do those counselors even do, i mean ive met one or two good teachers but never met or even heard of a counselor that was good

im not really sure tbh i know she puts together kids schedules at the start of the year and then sort of acts as a social worker the rest

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Roylicious posted:

It's almost like that's the message they hear from our consumerist society from the moment they can understand language...

kids should spend their days working alongside their parents, maybe apprenticing to a local artisan, instead of being taught by the government & corporations. do you really trust corporations and the government to educate your child?

we should return to our roots- community gardens, community schools, community values. you and your neighbors could teach your children the values of hard work and civic virtue. let freedom reign, friend.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

gently caress the ROW posted:

what the hell do those counselors even do, i mean ive met one or two good teachers but never met or even heard of a counselor that was good

They do all the petty administration poo poo like punching the keys that set different kids elective schedules or herding some of them into the retard classes or figuring out if there's a an actual reason the kid is always late instead of it just being that the little gently caress spends a half hour looking at the pictures in Monster Truck Monthly in a gas station on his walk to school every morning.

Normal kids can do most of this on their own but the subnormal kids can't do any of it because they're morons, but instead of banishing them back to the hovels of their retarded parents forever all of this petty stuff then has to be done by someone else. You don't see them during the year because they spend all their time handholding various genetically incapable subhumans through the system.

raton fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 5, 2016

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
I had a physics teacher named Mr. Hankey

a peck of pickled peckers
Aug 3, 2014

I am your Redeemer! It is by my hand that you arise from the ashes of this world!

Drink Cheerwine posted:

we should return to our roots- community gardens, community schools, community values. you and your neighbors could teach your children the values of hard work and civic virtue. let freedom reign, friend.

Also, we should share wives. :dance:

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
teachers: soemtimes work is really hard!!!! I deal with a lot of troublemakers and dramatics, i'm underpaid, and i have to do work outside of work too!!!!

Realize that so does everybody else in the workforce, except they work 12, sometimes 13, months a year. And they don't get a movie day or museum day

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
Several of my family or relatives are teachers or professors in the USA. It looks like a really lovely way to make (bad) money. I don't know what they were thinking. At least one of them got his college textbook published nationwide and made some bank off that.

EDIT: I guess what I appreciate about them is that they usually want to leave their dull academic politics at the door when we meet or eat together.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
Teacher Jeopardy is on

None of these people are fuckable

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Haier posted:

Several of my family or relatives are teachers or professors in the USA. It looks like a really lovely way to make (bad) money. I don't know what they were thinking. At least one of them got his college textbook published nationwide and made some bank off that.

EDIT: I guess what I appreciate about them is that they usually want to leave their dull academic politics at the door when we meet or eat together.

Teachers generally get lured in by the promise of vacation hours that aren't worth the rest of it. It's eight to ten weeks and the rest of the year is 10-12 hour days with half of that being dealing with the world's shittiest little assholes. Or you could work on the railroad and get seven paid weeks with a job that's done the minute you walk off the lot, a better pension, no continuing ed requirements, better union protection, and almost twice the money with only a high school degree as a requirement.

Higher ed is a good job if you can get tenure somehow but that's like making it into the NFL or something these days.

raton fucked around with this message at 01:06 on May 5, 2016

givepatajob
Apr 8, 2003

One finds that this is the best of all possible worlds.

Sheep-Goats posted:

Teacher Jeopardy is on

None of these people are fuckable

Or particularly smart.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
The only k-12 class where you need to have any intelligence at all as a teacher is calc. Ironically enough this is also one of the few classes where the students are generally strong enough and motivated enough to teach themselves all of the material.

raton fucked around with this message at 02:50 on May 5, 2016

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Sheep-Goats posted:

The only k-12 class where you need to have any intelligence at all as a teacher is calc. Ironically enough this is also one of the few classes where the students are generally strong enough and motivated enough to teach themselves all of the material.

a good English teacher would be able to teach actual communication skills and appreciation for the ahhahahaha

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

satanic splash-back posted:

a good English teacher would be able to teach actual communication skills and appreciation for the ahhahahaha

To an adult yes. To the shitheads they get to teach a telepathic head of discipline couldn't teach them how to cut and paste.

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

gently caress the ROW posted:

what the hell do those counselors even do, i mean ive met one or two good teachers but never met or even heard of a counselor that was good

I had a real good high school conselor but I know that was super rare. I said I wanted to do a thing and here were my qualifications and plans and he gave advice and directed me to paperwork and resources. I remember the dude related to me a story about a female senior who wanted to be a lobbyist and we laughed about how loving weird that was.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Helical Nightmares posted:

I had a real good high school conselor but I know that was super rare. I said I wanted to do a thing and here were my qualifications and plans and he gave advice and directed me to paperwork and resources. I remember the dude related to me a story about a female senior who wanted to be a lobbyist and we laughed about how loving weird that was.

Starfucker who had a dad that lectured to her about politics too much

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

Haier posted:

Several of my family or relatives are teachers or professors in the USA. It looks like a really lovely way to make (bad) money. I don't know what they were thinking. At least one of them got his college textbook published nationwide and made some bank off that.

EDIT: I guess what I appreciate about them is that they usually want to leave their dull academic politics at the door when we meet or eat together.

As I understand it this is the motherfucking racket to get into.

Happy Bear Suit
Jul 21, 2004

i liked that one teacher who successfully taught his inner-city school kids calculus

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

satanic splash-back posted:

a good English teacher would be able to teach actual communication skills and appreciation for the ahhahahaha
my fondest memory of high school english is when they were still teaching us vocabulary words and basic grammar rules through 10th grade and acted like google and spellcheck didn't exist in 2013

also the vocab books were from the 70s and over half of the words in them were irrelevant

"hmm, yes, 'ambulate' is a word teenagers in the 21st century should know" - school board, most likely

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

Sheep-Goats posted:

Starfucker who had a dad that lectured to her about politics too much

Likely. Or dad was a lawyer

I found out many years later that an 18 year old looking for a lobbyist position is going to do VERY WELL. In a similar fashion some corp intelligence agencies hire hot biology undergrads to dig drug secrets out of professors/professionals.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Helical Nightmares posted:

As I understand it this is the motherfucking racket to get into.
yes it is

the shelf above my computer has probably close to $300 worth of textbooks on it

all four of them

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

symbolic posted:

my fondest memory of high school english is when they were still teaching us vocabulary words and basic grammar rules through 10th grade and acted like google and spellcheck didn't exist in 2013

also the vocab books were from the 70s and over half of the words in them were irrelevant

"hmm, yes, 'ambulate' is a word teenagers in the 21st century should know" - school board, most likely

I think I'd look down on anyone that didn't know what ambulate meant.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Sheep-Goats posted:

I think I'd look down on anyone that didn't know what ambulate meant.
i bow down to you and your ability to extend "walk" to three syllables

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

symbolic posted:

i bow down to you and your ability to extend "walk" to three syllables

Walk and ambulate are not synonymous.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Sheep-Goats posted:

Walk and ambulate are not synonymous.
except they are

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

symbolic posted:

except they are

By that logic walk and move are also synonymous.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Sheep-Goats posted:

By that logic walk and move are also synonymous.
you must be an english teacher to care so much about this poo poo

literally everything i can find says that ambulate basically means "to walk" or, more generally, "move from place to place", which can also be the definition of walking

either way, it's obsolete

Space Camp fuckup
Aug 2, 2003

Ambulate is a perfectly cromulent word.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

symbolic posted:

you must be an english teacher to care so much about this poo poo

literally everything i can find says that ambulate basically means "to walk" or, more generally, "move from place to place", which can also be the definition of walking

either way, it's obsolete

Should I do a Venn diagram since STEM folks can only understand information presented to them in a cartoon format?

I mean you realize you sound like some Nascar hillbilly complaining about "TV people and they ten dollah words" right?

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Sheep-Goats posted:

Should a do a Venn diagram since STEM folks can only understand information presented to them in a cartoon format?
i mean, you can, but i'm not a STEM guy so whatever

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
What is this, another word with an interesting variation on the tone of a similar word?

Throw it on the pile BLEEP BLOOP

Horniest Manticore
Nov 23, 2013

Hello, you!
Lipstick Apathy

vandalism posted:

Why deny it? I'm a high school English teacher myself, and I embrace the memes. Today we talked about rare pepes and worked on some constructed response. Feels good man.

lol grats on the wasted life

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Sheep-Goats posted:

What is this, another word with an interesting variation on the tone of a similar word?

Throw it on the pile BLEEP BLOOP
you seem quite upset about the word "ambulate"

see, words fall out of fashion, and i think that it's one of those words. if you disagree, cool, that's your right, god bless america

s'all good, man

german porn enthusiast
Dec 29, 2015

by exmarx
Shoutouts to all the teachers.

You have not understood what skill, talent, or ability is until you've watched a kindergarten teacher turn a room of 5 year olds yelling and destroying poo poo into a group of attentive learners using nothing but a soft voice.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

symbolic posted:

you seem quite upset about the word "ambulate"

see, words fall out of fashion, and i think that it's one of those words. if you disagree, cool, that's your right, god bless america

s'all good, man

The whole "lol u caremad" thing is a little tired and facile so maybe stop doing that.

Let me put the actual point of this to you another way. Should we teach anything beyond basic algebra in school at all? After all, how many teens in the 21st century will need trig or calc in what they do? If only certain specialty fields use trig or calc or need to understand it does that make them "obsolete?"

You take four years of English in highschool. You should expect at least a couple of those years to involve words that are out of the top ten thousand list of general communicativity. You would expect some of them to be words they'd be more likely to read than to hear. Beyond this, though, ambulate is an extremely common word in general living use in certain circles (medicine, rehab) in any case, so it's a bad example if your point is that we only need to know the words that Tyler the Creator might put in a tweet. Next time you try to make this really regressive hill-person kind of point about words maybe pretend the word they taught you was "rictus" instead of "ambulate" so at least I don't have this secondary point to fall back on.

symbolic posted:

i mean, you can, but i'm not a STEM guy so whatever

So 300 for four texts then means what? Art, art history, or design? Because those are awfully strange fields to be studying if you're going to have a backwards attitude toward English's rich and frankly highly useful variety of vocabulary options.

raton fucked around with this message at 04:39 on May 5, 2016

Horniest Manticore
Nov 23, 2013

Hello, you!
Lipstick Apathy

symbolic posted:

i mean, you can, but i'm not a STEM guy so whatever

why not? stem is the one true path

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raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

vandalism posted:

I'm a high school English teacher myself, and I embrace the memes. Today we talked about rare pepes and worked on some constructed response. Feels good man.

Memes are a form of electronic cliche. I'm honestly a little repulsed that you "embrace" them as an English teacher. I'm not surprised, mind you, but since like 1950 on living English literature and high quality journalism has more or less rejected cliches for a variety of solid reasons. If you were a cooking teacher or a football coach I don't think I'd care, but as an English teacher you should at least have some objections to them.

George Orwell posted:

But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought. A bad usage can spread by tradition and imitation even among people who should and do know better. The debased language that I have been discussing is in some ways very convenient.

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