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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Mange Mite posted:

Hm no just draft them into the military after that. Service guarantees citizenship

you actually can get us citizenship by serving in the military

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Han Solomon
Mar 7, 2015

BOUND
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GAGGED
lol there are actual idiots who think building a wall on a border is a good idea that would work

i hope your entire country burns

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

ButteCysts posted:

lol there are actual idiots who think building a wall on a border is a good idea that would work

i hope your entire country burns

Jokes on you we already built a wall 10 years ago and turns out that it works

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Mange Mite posted:

The current system of building a giant 640 mile long wall covered with sensors and cameras you mean? Yes and if rhey expanded the wall it would probably work even better

Oh yeaaaah. Cause you know, Mexicans can't look up. Also they're too lazy to dig, and they haven't discovered ladder technology. God help us if they ever put together a wall research program.

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Serious Frolicking posted:

you actually can get us citizenship by serving in the military

Yeah but this is a way to recruit people since apparently mexicans would rather risk certain death by walking through 50 miles of barren desert

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating
Why impede heroin imports?????

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Mange Mite posted:

Yeah but this is a way to recruit people since apparently mexicans would rather risk certain death by walking through 50 miles of barren desert

Hey. Indentured servitude really has been off the table for too drat long.

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay
ive been playing slither.io and lol when those snakes get big they are basically a wall!



should hire a few of those bad boys to patrol the wall!

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Frankenstyle posted:

Oh yeaaaah. Cause you know, Mexicans can't look up. Also they're too lazy to dig, and they haven't discovered ladder technology. God help us if they ever put together a wall research program.

Except so fsr it has been effective, and has funneled illegal migrants into crossing a deadly desert wasteland, increasing the cost and risks of illegal entry


The point of a wall isnt to be impregnable, it's to increase the cost of illegal crossing to the point where it poor unskilled laborers can't afford it

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Drugs are a special case in that they're so valuable that even elaborate plans like tunnels and submarines still make economic sense. Not so much for people who are sneaking in to make less than minimum wage

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Mange Mite posted:

Except so fsr it has been effective,

Problem solved.





Next.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
IMO we should build a wall around the OP's posts

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

Mange Mite posted:

Hm no just draft them into the military after that. Service guarantees citizenship

Oops, I forgot. Do you think we should conscript all brown people into slavery to the state, or just Mexicans? I mean it'd be a tougher sell to just round up everybody, but it'd feel like a missed opportunity if we didn't even try right?

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
meltdown meter rising

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Frankenstyle posted:

Oops, I forgot. Do you think we should conscript all brown people into slavery to the state, or just Mexicans? I mean it'd be a tougher sell to just round up everybody, but it'd feel like a missed opportunity if we didn't even try right?

It's only people who pass the 50 mile obstacle course. Give them the choice of serving and becoming citizens or else having to crawl back to mexico

I mean you can join the military as a non-citizen anyway, but this way there's more prestige

Split Pea Superman
Dec 16, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Serious Frolicking posted:

uh, why would we send in an army? nowadays we mostly just bomb the poo poo out of civilian populations and call it victory. keep it up for a few decades and we would get violent reactionary canadians whose existence would retroactively justify the bombing.

Have you seen how nice Canadians are though? Casus belli wasn't manufactured in a day.

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster

Frankenstyle posted:



Quick...now pretend that they can get food stamps and welfare without proof of citizenship.

do you live within 1000 miles of an illegal lmao

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

solaranus posted:

Have you seen how nice Canadians are though? Casus belli wasn't manufactured in a day.

Just send some native americans as the ambassadors. Well be lucky if they make it back in one piece

BIG-DICK-BUTT-FUCK
Jan 26, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Internaut! posted:

meltdown meter rising

The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990
Grimey Drawer

the great deceiver posted:

what if donald trump started a "days watch" or something and instead of going to jail if you commit a crime you could go live the rest of your life as a guardian of the mexican border wall

Joke's on him; I'm easily bribed.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

Mange Mite posted:

Except so fsr it has been effective, and has funneled illegal migrants into crossing a deadly desert wasteland, increasing the cost and risks of illegal entry

But where does that put us, on a moral scale, letting whole families die because they broke the law (in the hopes of a better tomorrow).

It would be like if those rfid scanners at the grocery store exit dropped you into a hatch where you starve to death, instead of just beeping.

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay
wait, which wall are we talking about again? sorry been playing slither.io and my mind is a bit SLIPPERY

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Frankenstyle posted:

That's true. It's really put the kibosh on my dreams of becoming a migrant orange picker.

Without cheap migrant labor, agribusiness would have to either increase wages to a livable level or else invest in more technology and automation. And guess who's a world leader in engineering, farm machinery, and robotics?

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
Yeah you're mom said the same thing but I beat that bitch till she let me rawdog. Clearly we need to do the same to the Mexicans

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

Edgar Allan Pwned posted:

Yeah you're mom said the same thing but I beat that bitch till she let me rawdog. Clearly we need to do the same to the Mexicans

hm. yes this is definitely a post.

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

criscodisco posted:

But where does that put us, on a moral scale, letting whole families die because they broke the law (in the hopes of a better tomorrow).

It would be like if those rfid scanners at the grocery store exit dropped you into a hatch where you starve to death, instead of just beeping.

Actually us border patrol runs intensive sweeps looking for people in distress or need of aid. They've saved thousands of people who were abandoned by their hhuman traffickers and lrft to die. The funnel effect of the walls mskes it easier to keep those areas under surveillance, while the desert serves mostly to slow them down so it's more likely they are spotted

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay
why dont they just build a tunnel so that its nice and cool???????

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster

criscodisco posted:

But where does that put us, on a moral scale, letting whole families die because they broke the law (in the hopes of a better tomorrow).

It would be like if those rfid scanners at the grocery store exit dropped you into a hatch where you starve to death, instead of just beeping.

Border Patrol has saved thousands of lives of dehydrated prunes and other people left to die. They also pick up hundreds of unaccompanied minors every year.

gently caress you

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



the main problem with building a wall is that we'll just have to do it again when texas secedes. we'd do best just to build a shorter wall straight across north texas

No Mans Land 2
May 2, 2016

by Shine

Mange Mite posted:

Without cheap migrant labor, agribusiness would have to either increase wages to a livable level or else invest in more technology and automation. And guess who's a world leader in engineering, farm machinery, and robotics?

There are a fair amount of crops that can't be machine picked, if they could be they would have already been. But yea, there's a fuckin' every which way.

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

The Goatfather posted:

the main problem with building a wall is that we'll just have to do it again when texas secedes. we'd do best just to build a shorter wall straight across north texas

The best way to deal with that is to just make sure there's no survivors after the secession wars

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

SurfaceDetail posted:

They also pick up hundreds of unaccompanied minors every year.

Don't kinkshame.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

Mange Mite posted:

Actually us border patrol runs intensive sweeps looking for people in distress or need of aid. They've saved thousands of people who were abandoned by their hhuman traffickers and lrft to die. The funnel effect of the walls mskes it easier to keep those areas under surveillance, while the desert serves mostly to slow them down so it's more likely they are spotted

Oh, then that's definitely fair then, I had no idea. OK, I withdraw my complaint.

kikkelivelho
Aug 27, 2015

A massive public infrastructure project forcibly funded by an unrelated third party? How socialist of you Trump.

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster
As much as we all like the idea of a 50 foot high steel wall with automated turrets realistically speaking having 50 meters thick of barbed wire most places would be incredibly cheap, like a few hundred million and more realistic to funnel people.

WW1 style they had that poo poo up for a pittance and within a few months.

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
Apparently the contracror they chose to build the current wall was Boeing

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mange Mite posted:

Apparently the contracror they chose to build the current wall was Boeing

A civil engineer estimated the wall would cost 37 billion just for labor and materials.

This assumes the wall would be using pre-cast concrete slabs and wouldn't have more complex upgrades like miniguns to kill the mexican invaders.

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

etalian posted:

A civil engineer estimated the wall would cost 37 billion just for labor and materials.

The current 640 mile wall cost about 3.5 billion

The design isnt one giant wall, it's sections of wall and fencing with a "virtual wall" of sensors and cameras between them.

So i bet it would really cost like 8-10 billion to finisn the other 1400 miles

SurfaceDetail
Feb 17, 2016

by Cowcaster
Itd prob be cheap to crop dust a large part of the border with caltrops or discarded legos.

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Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

My shitpost, it's just another brick in the wall

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