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sex idiot
Apr 25, 2016

what made you like that and why are you in this manner? what happened to you?

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sex idiot
Apr 25, 2016

how'd you end up like it?

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot
No choice. Slavery to God.

Joust
Dec 7, 2007

No Ledges.
Polio.

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator
doc says im a noob and i got the failaids :(

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

noctambulous nebab posted:

No choice. Slavery to God.

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010
A mix of genealogical and sociodemographic factors at roughly a 15/85% distribution ratio OP.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

God is like life, with the inevitability of death it's something you're just forced to reckon with one way or another, be it indifference, acceptance, rebellion, rejoicing, revolutionary or changing, etc. etc.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Accumulation of emotional traumas.

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

i don't like to talk about the accident.

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot

Commie NedFlanders posted:

God is like life, with the inevitability of death it's something you're just forced to reckon with one way or another, be it indifference, acceptance, rebellion, rejoicing, revolutionary or changing, etc. etc.

God is circumstance, not pretty words.

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

Illuminati.

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot
2 choices: belief in free will or belief in God.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

noctambulous nebab posted:

God is circumstance, not pretty words.

God is circumscription, but yeah I don't disagree

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot

Commie NedFlanders posted:

God is circumscription, but yeah I don't disagree

I know you don't but if we're being serious it needs to be narrowed down as much as possible.

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins
Gypsy curse + autism

Trojan.exe
Feb 22, 2011

I never said I was a role model
Daddy Issues

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot
Anyone else an objectively horrible person? :)

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

noctambulous nebab posted:

I know you don't but if we're being serious it needs to be narrowed down as much as possible.


noctambulous nebab posted:

2 choices: belief in free will or belief in God.

I believe freedom of will is only truly possible in faith, as faith allows you to overcome circumstances, rather than just accept them, to discern & act in full confidence without full sight of your consequences.

I think it passes through extreme doubt of course, I like Kierkegaard stuff, but essentially I think those two choices are the opposite of mutually exclusive as you present them

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

noctambulous nebab posted:

Anyone else an objectively horrible person? :)

my dog just sat on my head

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
I was somewhat of a child prodigy. Fast tracked through everything. At a very young age I read the great sages of philosophy. It was my journey through these pages of wisdom that led me to my epiphany: Just loving post in GBS lol who cares.

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot

Commie NedFlanders posted:

I believe freedom of will is only truly possible in faith, as faith allows you to overcome circumstances, rather than just accept them, to discern & act in full confidence without full sight of your consequences.

I think it passes through extreme doubt of course, I like Kierkegaard stuff, but essentially I think those two choices are the opposite of mutually exclusive as you present them

Your belief presumes a difference in people who hold faith. This has been proven to be false over and over again. Catholic pedophiles are the most recent example, Martin Luther is a more historical one.

The actuality of faith means nothing. Personal freedom is part and parcel to the surrendering of freedom. No one is free from the totality of circumstance and in that way I suppose I am Nietzschean.

But another aspect of Nietzsche is that the totality justifies itself and subversion is an option.
Someone who is truly outside the rails would neglect to act at all, but it doesn't matter, because the rails don't matter.

Fate is as relevant for the great as it is the garbage.

Opinions... who cares. These are just mine. But there is no division between those who know and those who don't. Well there is but it doesn't matter. The one who is loud is the one who is heard. Being right is secondary.

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot
Faith can mean anything... life, God, alcohol gambling, happiness, etc. What comes through and is turned into energy is the power of the belief.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

noctambulous nebab posted:

Your belief presumes a difference in people who hold faith. This has been proven to be false over and over again. Catholic pedophiles are the most recent example, Martin Luther is a more historical one.

The actuality of faith means nothing. Personal freedom is part and parcel to the surrendering of freedom. No one is free from the totality of circumstance and in that way I suppose I am Nietzschean.

But another aspect of Nietzsche is that the totality justifies itself and subversion is an option.
Someone who is truly outside the rails would neglect to act at all, but it doesn't matter, because the rails don't matter.

Fate is as relevant for the great as it is the garbage.

Opinions... who cares. These are just mine. But there is no division between those who know and those who don't. Well there is but it doesn't matter. The one who is loud is the one who is heard. Being right is secondary.

quote:

But there is no division between those who know and those who don't. Well there is but it doesn't matter.

perhaps it's a dialectical relationship rather than a binary

cyber_goth_lolita
May 15, 2016

by Shine
most of my family werk in post secondary uni/college so i get brainwashed as an intersectional feminist asa young boi

now i am an outlaw becuz i have a penis

MRA REDPILL MGTOW POWER

STEPHEN HARPER FOREVER

I WILL NOT DIE IRL BY THE PSYCHO DOWN THE STREET THAT ACTUALLY HAS BROKE A DOODS NOSE WITH BRASS NUCKLES OR PULLS KNIFES ON PPL 4 FUN NO NOT AT ALL DADDY GONNA PROTECT ME

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I'm pretty much on board with the existentialists myself. There's no meaning, life is absurd, trying to figure out the meaning leads to nonsense, create your own meaning and live as you will.

I season that with some Lao Tzu type stuff, too. "Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like."

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
Years of neglect

Shaquin
May 12, 2007

Moridin920 posted:

I'm pretty much on board with the existentialists myself. There's no meaning, life is absurd, trying to figure out the meaning leads to nonsense, create your own meaning and live as you will.

I season that with some Lao Tzu type stuff, too. "Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like."

Moridin you are absolutely not onboard with any of those things

Shaquin
May 12, 2007

Moridin920 posted:

I'm pretty much on board with the existentialists myself. There's no meaning, life is absurd, trying to figure out the meaning leads to nonsense, create your own meaning and live as you will.

I season that with some Lao Tzu type stuff, too. "Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like."

moridin you are absolutely not onboard with any of those things

Tonsured
Jan 14, 2005

I came across mention of a Gnostic codex called The Unreal God and the Aspects of His Nonexistent Universe, an idea which reduced me to helpless laughter. What kind of person would write about something that he knows doesn't exist, and how can something that doesn't exist have aspects?
I'm the product of seven generations of squirrel husbandry, I raise squirrels just like my grandpappy did and my familh has a special connection with them, in fact I believe the bond between man and beast has never been stronger than between me and these inbred mange ridden squirrels that I raise. Yes, in fact my family has a symbiotic relationship with them, yes we share a special gene, a genetic quirk that allows us to perform psychosciruinekinesis the physica movement of squirrel anatomy with thought we can masturbate squirrels with our minds helpful for breeding you see and it is to this special origin story that I attribute these now constant thoughts of squirrel masturbation to

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Shaquin posted:

Moridin you are absolutely not onboard with any of those things

It is better to do one's own duty, however defective it may be, than to follow the duty of another, however well one may perform it. He who does his duty as his own nature reveals it, never sins.



now watch this drive

Dinosaurmageddon
Jul 7, 2007

by zen death robot
Hell Gem
My wife called the cops on me because I cut her off from my adderall supply when she refused to leave a party after midnight.

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot

Commie NedFlanders posted:

perhaps it's a dialectical relationship rather than a binary

I hear you but I am rambling so I will finish my thought.

This is why Islam continues to confound and challenge the West. They truly believe in their God and are willing to undergo any circumstances to realize his will.

Islam has much more vitality than the west, which is now flirting heavily with atheism and has been nihilistic for a long time. The belief is there because it is universal but it is self-oriented and decadent. Meanwhile, it is confronting a very hardened group of people who have been put upon for a long time. Oil interests and the Saudi religious police are not the examples, they are examples of western influence. The real Islam is populist and growing. Violence towards the west is a perfectly reasonable conclusion.

It doesn't necessarily have to be the West vs. Islam. I admit that has been a trope since the 90s, but currently it is the most likely.

I would like to carve a way out through idealism but the reality is that it is a war of belief and ideology. One is a waning empire, the other is a war torn underdog that has had enough.

There is no dialectic in this world. It is dog eat dog. The dogs of the day are belief structures.

vug
Jan 23, 2015

by Cowcaster
more like wanking empire

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


mental illness mostly

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

an emergent state of the quantum foam yo

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot

vug posted:

more like wanking empire

Internet pornography has made this true. Our would-be holy warriors have their pants around their ankles.

a whole buncha crows
May 8, 2003

WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)
im insane in the membrane

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Windows 98
Nov 13, 2005

HTTP 400: Bad post
OP im 99% sure you what's wrong with me already

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