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glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)
Stereotypically, around maybe 13 or 14, teenagers adopt their first bad philosophy. All it takes is a Rage Against the Machine album, watching V for Vendetta (or for the advanced type) discovering a paperback of Nietszche's at a used book sale. Boom! Suddenly you are a militant communist anarchist nihilist! Very loud and angry about it, until three weeks later you smoke some shake weed and decide that peace, love, and going with the flow are the REAL answers! And so on.

The reason that this is a stereotype is that it really happens. It certainly happened to me, several times, as a teenager. And I was probably just as loud and angry and annoying then as teens are today.

The question is: what were your first few bad philosophies, what caused them, and what did you take away from them? (As much as I laugh at it now, I am pretty happy that I was reading Nietzsche as a teenager)

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Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
I thought we could work with white people for a better tomorrow but it's clear now they must be cleansed when the revolution comes.

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

I thought we could work with white people for a better tomorrow but it's clear now they must be cleansed when the revolution comes.

):

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Falun Bong Refugee posted:

I thought we could work with white people for a better tomorrow but it's clear now they must be cleansed when the revolution comes.

im going to white wash your mouth out

Hell Yeah
Dec 25, 2012

always smoke weed in a car cause your parents won't be in that car

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Advanced PUA Theory
Evolutionary Psychology
Dick Dorkins Atheism
"Somewhere in the middle" milquetoast Democratic Party liberalism

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

catholicism

MiracleWhale
Jun 30, 2015


if you had told me as a teenager that alcoholism would lead me down a bad path I wouldn't have believed it

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

I only ate meat from animals I personally hunted and killed because life is precious so it was immoral to eat meat unless I personally joined the food chain and violently ripped that precious gift away from another living creature. I shouldn't devour the flesh of the dead unless I was willing to kill for it.

Then I realized that guns were unfair and started bow hunting.

Then I realized that unless I was attacking deer with my hands, I was still cheating the system so I started eating like a normal american.

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)
My bad philosophies: right before I turned 14, I discovered my mother's old copy of "Be Here Now", and together with whatever standard classic rock songs I had access to (The Beatles and Led Zeppelin), got into a mystical phase that combined pretty much standard hippie beliefs. I also talked about drugs a lot, even though I wouldn't even smoke cannabis until I was 20. As annoying as parts of it were, it actually was pretty beneficial, because I did read widely in philosophy. Like I started with Be Here Now and ended with Saint Augustine.

Anyway, that lasted about a year. Right before I turned 15 and Kurt Cobain died, I got all grim and gritty and got into existentialism, fueled by angsty grunge music and Anne Rice. It was this sharp turn from a philosophy of wholeness into one of despair. Again, this was annoying and stupid but also pretty beneficial, because I read up on my existentialism. I eventually cheered up a little, or perhaps got angry, which led to my third bad philosophy.

Around the time I turned 16, I got into more of a resistance philosophy, inspired by Public Enemy and reading about Native American warriors. Part of this was me adopting a faux-ethnic attitude and the like, and it was also pretty annoying, but it also meant I was putting an effort into understanding other culture's history. So kind of my journey of bad philosophy went from wholeness to despair to resistance. Not a bad path. I still keep parts of all the things I believed as a teenager.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
caring about politics/voting


lol. i was pretty stupid

noctambulous nebab
May 12, 2016

by zen death robot

MiracleWhale posted:

if you had told me as a teenager that alcoholism would lead me down a bad path I wouldn't have believed it

I would have as a teen but now I wouldn't... awkward

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer
I didnt have any philosophys i played lots of basketball and computer games.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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we need a global world state under a single government in order to facilitate the scientific advancement of our species

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)

symbolic posted:

catholicism

I was, of course "spiritual but not religious" but there were times as a teenager where the idea of organized religion appealed to me. I never quite made a commitment, though.

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating
I went straight edge like Henry Rollins and drew "x"es on the tops of my hands for 2 days in seventh grade then a buddy introduced me to weed.

KiddieGrinder
Nov 15, 2005

HELP ME
racism

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
I thought ska was good :cripes:

Emmideer
Oct 20, 2011

Lovely night, no?
Grimey Drawer
"I'll never kill myself"


Nooner posted:

I thought ska was good :cripes:

ska is good

flick my Mr. Bean
Nov 18, 2014

Nooner posted:

I thought ska was good :cripes:

wtf Nooner I expect more from you

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Nooner posted:

I thought ska was good :cripes:

:same:

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating
I like ska.

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)

Anderron Shi posted:

I went straight edge like Henry Rollins and drew "x"es on the tops of my hands for 2 days in seventh grade then a buddy introduced me to weed.

I was actually pretty straight edge as a teenager. I didn't drink or use cannabis until I turned 20. One time a friend of mine and me got high off of some type of anti-histamine preparation.

One reason I was straight-edge was later in my teenage years, when I was in community college, I had a lot of leeway in where I went and what I did. I took a 1000 mile Greyhound trip as a 17 year old. I slept in parks and wandered the streets. So I kind of thought I needed to keep some type of personal self-discipline and boundaries since I was doing this dangerous stuff.

Captain Video
Apr 4, 2016
Misanthropy, very briefly around the time frame OP mentioned.

Falun Bong Refugee
Dec 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Nooner posted:

I thought ska was good :cripes:

Oh god I thought I buried that...

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
G.I. Joe, Knowing is half the battle.

What good is knowing anything while the truly dumb are in charge of everything?

Dr. Dogballs Jr.
Jun 9, 2014

the angriest sex machine
anime :anime:

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer

l0wt4x
May 17, 2016

by Lowtax
everything in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7NYehU1S-Q + obsession with bbc + hitler riding a giant nuclear bomb black dick into the planet earth

and the whole idea that bad could be actually really g00d

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro
I enlisted in the Marines at 18

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
"If I'm a nice guy, a girl will let me touch her boobs!"

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
The first anime I saw was some version of Jack and the Beanstalk and it was awesome, then I watched Vampire Hunter D and thought that was awesome so I went to the movie rental place and checked out some more "Japanamation" and it didn't take me long to realize that I had already seen the only two anime movies worth watching (yes I watched Akira and it bored the hell out of me)

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)

I was born in 1979, so anime was kind of after my time.
I mean, I am sure that it wasn't for everyone, that there were some people ahead of the curve, but I wasn't one of them.
I remember at the age of 20, in 1999 or 2000, going to a library in Portland and finding a copy of Ranma 1/2 manga up on the shelf and it seeming like it was quite the exotic oddity! And that was just for an entry-level romantic manga.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

I joined the Army at 17.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

my condolences

A ILL BREAKFAST
Jun 9, 2007

*unsheathes katana*

FlimFlam Imam posted:

The first anime I saw was some version of Jack and the Beanstalk and it was awesome, then I watched Vampire Hunter D and thought that was awesome so I went to the movie rental place and checked out some more "Japanamation" and it didn't take me long to realize that I had already seen the only two anime movies worth watching (yes I watched Akira and it bored the hell out of me)

u might like ninja scroll. note: most anime is bad. most things are bad. gotta wade thru a bunch of crap to find a gem. like this thread. is it the crap or is it the gem? the answer... may surprise u

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)

A ILL BREAKFAST posted:

u might like ninja scroll. note: most anime is bad. most things are bad. gotta wade thru a bunch of crap to find a gem. like this thread. is it the crap or is it the gem? the answer... may surprise u

This is probably a good thread since it is an effort thread in GBS, but it might turn into a bad thread if it turns into people talking about how anime changed their life, but trying to do it through layers of shameful irony.

Neon Genesis Evangelion did change my life, but that didn't happen until I was in my early 20s.

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
Here's some images of the Jack and the Beanstalk. It was very surreal in some scenes.

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

I'm gonna die one day anyway so trying really hard at anything that isn't fun the entire time is pointless

joke's on me at 30 I'm a mediocre engineer and only feel real joy when having sex or taking drugs

so nihilism/hedonism I guess?

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

glowing-fish posted:

This is probably a good thread since it is an effort thread in GBS, but it might turn into a bad thread if it turns into people talking about how anime changed their life, but trying to do it through layers of shameful irony.

Neon Genesis Evangelion did change my life, but that didn't happen until I was in my early 20s.

Anime changed my life as it made me not want to watch anime when I discovered alcohol

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