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It's gonna fuckin suck | 93 | 44.71% | |
It could be good | 115 | 55.29% | |
Total: | 208 votes |
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"WWE.com posted:A SmackDown shakeup is about to completely reshape all of WWE. Beginning July 19, the second longest-running weekly episodic program in television history, SmackDown, will move from Thursday to Tuesday nights and air LIVE each and every week — for the first time ever — at 8/7 C on USA Network, the exclusive cable home to WWE’s marquee properties. so after about 5ish years of the brand split from 2002 being dissolved, it looks like we are gonna go back. my thoughts: it might be good if it makes smackdown's show a lot more unique from raw, less rematches, and the show starting to matter a bit especially with exclusive matches. downside, raw at three hours with a gutted roster might make for a far more slogging show, and it might also be a situation where smackdown once again has a glass ceiling and probably having weaker house shows again. i don't think we are gonna see brand exclusive PPVS, and i don't think we're gonna see a second World Title. But it makes me wonder about what they're going to do with the other titles. This is major enough discussion to have its own thread i think.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:43 |
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# ? Apr 19, 2024 10:25 |
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I am cautiously optimistic, because I am dumb.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:45 |
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It's gonna fuckin suck, but I see that as a good thing. I want one show to have nothing but the Dana Brookes and Tyler Breezes and it will be glorious.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:49 |
Put Roman Reigns on Smackdown, or in the trash maybe.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:50 |
Theyre going to split up New Day, the Social Outcasts, and any other pairings that we like and are good.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:51 |
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Dave saying 2 world champs, similar to the first split I liked the 2 world champs aspect, nothing else. Congrats on minor world champ Styles I guess?
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:51 |
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i don't care if this whole thing sucks as long as it's fun for the draft + whatever tournament or match there is for the new world title. god bless
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:51 |
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Chris James 2 posted:Dave saying 2 world champs, similar to the first split God loving drat it.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:53 |
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This is bad. This is very bad. Draft shows are fun. Everything else...very, very bad.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:55 |
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I'm only okay with a second world title if they put it on Dana Brooke
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:56 |
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The Brand Split is a good idea but we also saw them not understand how to do it correctly for 10 years. I'd like to be optimistic but I'm not convinced they will last 2 months before they start putting people on the other show.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:57 |
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HulkaMatt posted:The Brand Split is a good idea but we also saw them not understand how to do it correctly for 10 years. I'd like to be optimistic but I'm not convinced they will last 2 months before they start putting people on the other show. Dave and Bryan seemed pretty critical of it for exactly this reason. They're basically admitting it failed but thinking that because they have the entirety of the indy MVPs now they can go back to the well and it'll work this time? Bigger roster helping its case?
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:59 |
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https://twitter.com/themib/status/735540853888913408 I'm hoping they've already raided everyone they want and could get from NJPW at least
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:00 |
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Cavauro posted:i don't care if this whole thing sucks as long as it's fun for the draft + whatever tournament or match there is for the new world title. god bless Same, I kinda like brand split storylines and all but I'm mainly just into hoping for a neat draft/gimmick shows it spawns since those can be really fun.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:00 |
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Thauros posted:https://twitter.com/themib/status/735540853888913408 Mexican and Japanese were the companies specified as being looked at most So probably Okada if he isn't locked up. Also say goodbye to Rush
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:01 |
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At the end of the day the rosters they have won't matter unless the booking is good. We were shown they couldn't book a brand split for a decade. So I can't really imagine this will be any different.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:01 |
This will be how they ambush the New Day into a split without warning.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:01 |
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I mean the final dagger for TNA should finally come very soon, right
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:02 |
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The end result of this is that WWE will control all the wrestling all over the world while all the indies are left to rot right
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:03 |
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Looking forward to the entirety of the Ingobernables to show up, but simply known as the Gobers or the Finn Balornables
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:04 |
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The_Rob posted:At the end of the day the rosters they have won't matter unless the booking is good. We were shown they couldn't book a brand split for a decade. So I can't really imagine this will be any different. smackdown was kinda good for a year.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:05 |
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Chris James 2 posted:Mexican and Japanese were the companies specified as being looked at most Okada's almost certainly locked up and he's a guy they've made several attempts at before. He's the one guy I'm NOT worried about. Rush tho....
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:05 |
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Thauros posted:Okada's almost certainly locked up and he's a guy they've made several attempts at before. He's the one guy I'm NOT worried about. Yeah even Dave seemed pretty baffled how Rush could attend a tryout and not be signed. He'll lead the Finn Balornables for sure.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:06 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:This will be how they ambush the New Day into a split without warning. Didn't Kofi and Xavier already say they're just gonna retire when the New Day breaks up?
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:08 |
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The way I'd like to see it: Raw: Mainstays and some new guys, deserving long-time undercard finally getting a shot. SD: Hybrid of midcard workhorses getting recognition, and new NXT call-ups. NXT: Return to developmental format instead of a super-indie showcase. Maybe the 2 World champs format could work again, but no double Tag/Womens this time. US on Raw, IC on SD. Frequent invasions/jumps between shows, enough to keep matches fresh, and consistent inter-show rivalries instead of practically ignoring the other exists. Doing the exact same thing they used to would suck. So WWE being WWE it's probably going to be exactly that.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:08 |
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Brand split rules. 2 heavyweight champs do not rule.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:08 |
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JOHN CENA posted:smackdown was kinda good for a year. Yeah but once people were liking it more than raw they formatted it so we would want to watch the A show.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:09 |
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I hate literally all of this. But Ambrose will eventually be a champ now I guess!
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:10 |
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There's already enough talent on the roster (with some more call ups) for this to work. I'm optimistic. Should be better for the women too as more than just the wwe womens champ and contender get to do something.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:11 |
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I hate literally all of this. But Ambrose will eventually be a champ now I guess! You did guarantee us that Ambrose would be World Champion! Is this a proper time to use monkey's paw?
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:12 |
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Please stop saying New Era I'm totally for it, though. RAW is very complacent television (though it's been on an upturn since WM) and it seems like they just expect the roster's in-ring depth and talent to bail them out of the big problems: the drain of a three hour show, the 50:50 booking, the wrong guy at the top, the lack of good promos etc. The thing is - I don't care about the median midcard match being technically better if it means that it'll have at least one total dead-end of a character: a Dolph Ziggler, a Neville, an Apollo Crews, a Stardust, a League of Nations etc. Fat Lowtax fucked around with this message at 20:48 on May 25, 2016 |
# ? May 25, 2016 20:14 |
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Great White Hope posted:You did guarantee us that Ambrose would be World Champion! One of the few times, yes, given that a brand split is a nightmare scenario for me.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:15 |
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Thauros posted:Okada's almost certainly locked up and he's a guy they've made several attempts at before. He's the one guy I'm NOT worried about. Oh god what if they get Cage too
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:20 |
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sticklefifer posted:The way I'd like to see it: I agree with all of this. Would prefer to have the IC belt on smackdown and the US belt on raw with all the other champions floating. I presume that we'll get none of what I want and instead we'll have Roman as champ on one brand and a clearly "lesser" champ on the other. Honestly the two world champions is the only thing I ever hated about the split.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:21 |
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The monkey's paw is just a perpetual middle finger to us at this point.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:21 |
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I'm gonna like it, idk bout you
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:22 |
This is one answer to the question: "how do you have Cena and Reigns on the same show?" I shall follow Cena to Smackdown.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:23 |
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Vertical Lime posted:I mean the final dagger for TNA should finally come very soon, right Yeah, TNA's hosed. A bright side from this
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:24 |
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I wasn't around for the first brand split, but if they routinely can't fill three hours of Raw I don't know how they're going to do five hours.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:26 |
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# ? Apr 19, 2024 10:25 |
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Two World champs is the dumbest way to go. Especially since they JUST merged the belts in an elaborate storyline a few years back (Orton/Cena, Bryan at Mania XXX, Brock winning the "new" merged belt; they made a point of it being THE DEFINITIVE SOLO WORLD BELT). It's pretty lovely to backpedal real hard on that and go "lolnope, two world champs again." Also, the WHC was pretty devalued by the end of its run last time (save for Cena getting it, albeit even that run felt weak), as were all of the secondary belts, so that will likely happen again and will suck.
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:27 |