Thoughts on the Brand Split? This poll is closed. |
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It's gonna fuckin suck | 93 | 44.71% | |
It could be good | 115 | 55.29% | |
Total: | 208 votes |
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I like it because it's a change that could lead to good things, and it gives me a reason to pay attention to Smackdown. It will probably end in tears but until then...
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:28 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 09:31 |
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do this imo i would only miss the new day and charlotte/becky/sasha
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:42 |
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even with people getting back from injuries the talent pool is so shallow if they have to fill three hours of raw every week with half their roster. like they have more talented guys than they've ever had maybe but they would run out of variety and fresh matchups immediately. they need to sign like 20 more tv-ready people at minimum
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:46 |
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Super No Vacancy posted:even with people getting back from injuries the talent pool is so shallow if they have to fill three hours of raw every week with half their roster. like they have more talented guys than they've ever had maybe but they would run out of variety and fresh matchups immediately. they need to sign like 20 more tv-ready people at minimum That and the NXT touring thing are why they're going to raid the indies more. As is they've cut down around 40% of fresh matchups with this, and crippled the chance of NXT being a good tour brand when Finn and Nakamura are gone, both problems they have to address and quick
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:50 |
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IcePhoenix posted:Didn't Kofi and Xavier already say they're just gonna retire when the New Day breaks up? Kofi mentioned retirement, I don't know if Xavier was going to retire or just quit WWE. Either way, I'm not sure if that will matter, since Big E is the one Vince really wants anyway. A brand split, in theory, cuts New Day's TV appearances almost in half. I wonder if that'll affect their merch sales and poo poo to the point where Vince is just like "gently caress it, pull the trigger".
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# ? May 25, 2016 20:53 |
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Fat Lowtax posted:Please stop saying New Era BodyMassageMachine posted:Two World champs is the dumbest way to go. Especially since they JUST merged the belts in an elaborate storyline a few years back (Orton/Cena, Bryan at Mania XXX, Brock winning the "new" merged belt; they made a point of it being THE DEFINITIVE SOLO WORLD BELT). It's pretty lovely to backpedal real hard on that and go "lolnope, two world champs again." That was exactly what happened with the Undisputed title at the beginning of the first brand split. WWF acquired WCW, WWF/WCW titles merged, then Brock took the one belt to Smackdown and they reintroduced the Big Gold just after the WCW version had been absorbed. In less time than this, actually.
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# ? May 25, 2016 21:10 |
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Fat Lowtax posted:Please stop saying New Era Meet new Era, same as old Era.
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# ? May 25, 2016 21:22 |
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Fenrir posted:Kofi mentioned retirement, I don't know if Xavier was going to retire or just quit WWE. Either way, I'm not sure if that will matter, since Big E is the one Vince really wants anyway. I can't see Xavier quitting since he has UUDD.
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# ? May 25, 2016 21:31 |
The brand split caused me to stop watching wrestling for a decade. So uh good job trips lol
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# ? May 25, 2016 21:37 |
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There's been sort of a thing lately where Big E thinks something they do is too silly or he doesn't quite play along with the antics of Kofi and Xavier, so I could reasonably see them putting Big E somewhere else and having New Day continue as a tag team instead of a trio, but it seems like Kofi probably wouldn't stand for it.
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# ? May 25, 2016 21:51 |
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I doubt that. I think they are just running with a straight man goofy guy routine.
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# ? May 25, 2016 21:53 |
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Release Big E back into the IC title picture and give him his name and 5 count back
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:01 |
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They should commit to Smackdown being the 'B' show (in Vince's eyes) and have the Woman's title be their world title. Let them main event every week with the undercard being a smackdown-six style roster for the US title. Let Raw have the WWE, tag and IC titles.
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:03 |
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tbh The New Day was the reason I started watching WWE again, so if they break them up I doubt I'll keep going
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:08 |
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Who gets corporate kane and who gets the demon kane
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:11 |
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Keg posted:Theyre going to split up New Day, the Social Outcasts, and any other pairings that we like and are good.
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:29 |
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Ditch posted:Why is WWE so obsessed with splitting up tag teams? I mean it worked That One Time (Shawn Michaels) That's why. If they can make even one singles star, the team was a success. The Shield was honestly probably their best team, with that in mind. Ironic considering how much they sabotaged it with attempts (and the inevitable success) at breaking them up at every turn, but it ended up with 3 money making draws that sold more individually than the group ever did
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:32 |
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RIP American Alpha and The Revival.
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:33 |
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Ditch posted:Why is WWE so obsessed with splitting up tag teams? I mean it worked That One Time (Shawn Michaels) This is where Vince stops reading.
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:33 |
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blunt posted:They should commit to Smackdown being the 'B' show (in Vince's eyes) and have the Woman's title be their world title. Let them main event every week with the undercard being a smackdown-six style roster for the US title. Let Raw have the WWE, tag and IC titles. Dang, I really like this idea.
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:37 |
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Jannetty was supposed to have gotten a similar push if he didn't gently caress up so many times Thanks Jannetty
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:37 |
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Pros: They're gonna hire Maria and Mike Bennett Cons: They're going to redo shot for shot the Karl loves Maria angle from New Japan. Edit: Pros: This will include the Karl loves Maria video package that New Japan did where Karl had hearts in his eyes.
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:58 |
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This seems like a really good thing to me. The downside of all the new guys getting pushed to fill the injury gaps is that as people are now coming back, the roster's getting overstuffed, and those issues can only get worse; who can Randy Orton or Bray Wyatt feud with when they come back? Whose segments get pushed off TV to make room for them? We already didn't see Rusev at all last week, and he has a belt. This gives everybody breathing room, going live removes the spoilers so people actually need to watch and will (hopefully) remove the B-show taint, and it reduces everybody's workrates since they'll either have Monday or Tuesday off, which ought to help end the injury plague. And hey, if we're really really lucky, they might do two women's feuds at once. We might even get more than one match a week!
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# ? May 25, 2016 22:58 |
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CapnAndy posted:This seems like a really good thing to me. The downside of all the new guys getting pushed to fill the injury gaps is that as people are now coming back, the roster's getting overstuffed, and those issues can only get worse; who can Randy Orton or Bray Wyatt feud with when they come back? Whose segments get pushed off TV to make room for them? We already didn't see Rusev at all last week, and he has a belt. The problem is that this won't stop the lovely booking and scheduling. Even with the size of the current roster, they still can't fill a 3-hour Raw with worthwhile poo poo. Now they're going to cut that roster nearly in half? This probably just means more McMahon bullshit, more Roman Reigns, etc. etc. Personally I think the best to hope for is that the current IC/MITB contender stable moves to Smackdown (Cesaro/Owens/Zayn/Miz/etc... maybe Ambrose since he's never getting the big belt anyway) e: VVV true. Well, about Roman anyway. And Cena's probably going to trade the new SD belt back and forth with someone a couple times to beat Flair's record without having to beat Roman... maybe Ambrose and KO will get a run or two in. Fenrir fucked around with this message at 23:13 on May 25, 2016 |
# ? May 25, 2016 23:09 |
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yeah buy at least now there is a place to avoid the mcmahon and roman stuff
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:11 |
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Ostentatious posted:yeah buy at least now there is a place to avoid the mcmahon and roman stuff In favor of Cena
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:13 |
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Chris James 2 posted:In favor of Cena gently caress it, I'd take Cena over Roman any day.
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:14 |
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cena is good and roman is bad
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:16 |
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let's go cena
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:20 |
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I support this with the crazy influx of new talent. And the fact that Smackdown spoilers haven't been interesting to read since 2001. I've been worried about what Rollins/Orton/Cena was gonna do to guys who picked up momentum like Kevin Owens and AJ Styles. Then, you have guys like Samoa Joe, Finn, and Nakamura that will need spots on the main roster as well. But, we'll get cool stuff like Bobby Roode and outside signings to fill spots as well. Basically, we're about to see 2 super rosters full of WWE, TNA, Japan, and Indy talent on the WWE level. Instead of cramming all of those guys into 3 hours, they have 6 hours to give opportunity for all the guys to have time. That sounds pretty cool to me. When they did this in 2002, they had a lot of talent, but not quite as much as now. Back when guys like Rene Dupree and Kenzo Suzuki were getting TV time. Work rate in the WWE has gone up so many levels since then. Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd....probably means the return of the Big Gold 89 fucked around with this message at 23:30 on May 25, 2016 |
# ? May 25, 2016 23:22 |
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Any chance of them dropping Raw to 2 hours, with the excuse of whichever McMahon gets Smackdown complaining about an unfair advantage?
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:28 |
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elkaline posted:Any chance of them dropping Raw to 2 hours, with the excuse of whichever McMahon gets Smackdown complaining about an unfair advantage? There is zero chance of USA letting that happen until the next contract renewal.
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:30 |
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Vertical Lime posted:let's go cena And the SD title will just be another logo belt come on guys
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:31 |
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Charles Gnarwin posted:There is zero chance of USA letting that happen until the next contract renewal. Those third hour ratings are never great though, they could fill it with pre-taped content instead i.e. NXT replays or other backlogged network stuff.
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:34 |
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Chris James 2 posted:In favor of Cena
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:38 |
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I always thought two belts kind of devalued their meaning. It's also a big part of the reason why you had former WHC Jack Swagger and ADR as heatless world champ for literally months. I just like the concept that the top is the top, there should be some tension about who is deserving and meta-arguments like that, it adds to the prestige. That I'm not a big fan of the current champ doesn't really change this in my eyes - and while I can acknowledge that someone like Bryan may not have touched the top without passing through, but my general feeling is "bleh". I don't really mind the brand split too much but I really wish they would have one belt. Maybe they can engineer a situation where one belt is the obviously superior one? I feel like it went back and forth in the old split.
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:40 |
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elkaline posted:Any chance of them dropping Raw to 2 hours, with the excuse of whichever McMahon gets Smackdown complaining about an unfair advantage? Wasnt there some announcement a few weeks back that Raw would have a 2 hour replay on fridays? EDIT:my bad it was 5 days ago it was announced, and it airs on syfy http://www.pwmania.com/syfy-airing-a-wwe-raw-replay-on-fridays-new-episode-from-tyler-breeze-the-new-day
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:41 |
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Brokenogre posted:Wasnt there some announcement a few weeks back that Raw would have a 2 hour replay on fridays? Just a broadcast of the chopped down Hulu version I think, but could be setting a precedent.
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:43 |
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i'm in favor
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:49 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 09:31 |
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They should honestly just keep Raw as is and make NXT 2 hours and call it Smackdown. Maybe put a couple dudes like Neville and Breeze back on the NXT roster.
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# ? May 25, 2016 23:52 |